The conversation is based on a recent Op-ed written by NOBEL President Rodney Bryant and on the experiences of black law enforcement executives, specifically Chief Rodney Bryant and Chief Renee Hall and Black Arm of the Law host Chief RaShall Brackney. They discuss the challenges and scrutiny faced by black women in leadership positions in law enforcement, as well as the need for diversity and inclusion in the field. They also highlight the importance of innovative problem-solving and strategic planning in addressing the issues faced by the criminal legal system. The conversation touches on topics such as the role of black women in law enforcement, the impact of the pandemic and civil unrest on policing, and the need for support and representation for minority chiefs. The conversation explores the challenges faced by diverse leaders in law enforcement and the importance of diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) in the field. The Chiefs discuss the attacks and obstacles that minority leaders often face, including being terminated without cause and being labeled as DEI hires. They emphasize the need for intentional recruitment and support for diverse candidates, as well as the importance of diverse perspectives in law enforcement. The guests also highlight the positive impact of DEI in police departments, including improved community relations and reduced use of force. They stress the resilience and determination of minority leaders and the need to continue fighting for diversity in law enforcement.