The Inner Edge: Leadership, Self-Mastery, and Reinvention for a New Era

The Inner Edge: Leadership, Self-Mastery, and Reinvention for a New Era

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  • E43: Emotional Intelligence, Coaching, & Leadership with Richard Boyatzis

    “When you create relationships where people feel listened to, cared for, a part of something, and they feel like they belong, you're doing something really human. And that's where we unleash our talent.”

    In this episode, I talk to Dr. Richard Boyatzis, one of the world's leading experts in leadership development and emotional intelligence. 

    A senior executive I was working with in 2008 handed out the book “Primal Leadership” to his entire executive leadership team. We then facilitated discussions about emotional intelligence and leadership that greatly impacted leadership expectations and ultimately the culture of the company.

    I am thrilled to have one of the co-authors of that book with me today to discuss not only the topic of emotional intelligence, but also leadership development, the importance of emotional intelligence and leadership, and how leaders can help people change through the power of coaching.  We talk about his latest book, “Helping People Change: Coaching With Compassion for Lifelong Learning and Growth” and how trying to “fix” people is a faulty goal. Great leaders are also great coaches, and we discuss how leaders can become better at coaching others.

    There are too many gems of wisdom in this episode to describe. If you are seeking to increase your overall leadership effectiveness, you won’t want to miss this episode.
    In this episode:

    • Richard’s journey from astronautics to his role today
    • Coaching people to be open to learning and change
    • Good intentions don’t mean effective change
    • Paying attention to the quality of your relationships as a leader
    • The importance of a shared sense of purpose

    Power Presence Academy: Practical Wisdom for Leaders is the go-to podcast for anyone who leads. Your host is Janet Ioli, leadership and human development expert, sought-after coach and advisor to global executives, and former executive with experience in four Fortune 100 companies.

    Dr. Richard Boyatzis is a best-selling author and one of the world's leading experts in leadership development and emotional intelligence. His nine books include the international best-seller Primal Leadership, which he co-authored with Daniel Goleman and Annie McKee.

    He is the Distinguished University Professor and the HR Horvitz Professor of Family Business at Case Western Reserve University in Cleveland and a Professor in Human Resources at ESADE in Barcelona, one of the top business schools in the world. He has written over 150 articles on leadership, motivation, behavioral change, emotional intelligence, and managerial competencies. His latest research is the analysis of the neuroscience of effective leadership and coaching.

    Dr. Boyatzis’s latest book, Helping People Change.
    Read Dr. Richard Boyatzis’s book Primal Leadership or find more of his books here.

    Check out my book Less Ego, More Soul: A Modern Reinvention Guide for Women.

    Connect with Richard Boyatzis on LinkedIn

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    51 min
  • E42: Reinventing Yourself with Joanne Lipman

    “It is all about being open to where your experiences might take you. I think we all have skills that are transferable. And so you need to open your mind.”

    Are you seeking to make a career change, but aren’t sure how to proceed?

    In this episode, I talk to Joanne Lipman, best-selling author, speaker, and media executive about the process of reinventing yourself.

    A theme in my coaching and advising work with executive clients is a secret desire to find more meaning and fulfillment in their lives.  I often hear confessions of inner longings to reinvent their working lives and in some cases, to change careers and do something entirely different. Yet that longing is often accompanied by fear and ultimately, dismissal.

    I frequently talk about this often unexpressed search for meaning and the desire to do something different. When I stumbled upon Joanne Lipman's new book Next!: The Power of Reinvention in Life and Work,  I knew I had to invite her to be a guest on the show.  In this episode full of practical advice, we discuss her research and strategies for those who are looking to make a career change and for what is “next”.

    In this episode:

    • The 4 steps to reinventing yourself - search, struggle, stop, and solution
    • Common obstacles that cause people to not reinvent themselves
    • The benefits of reaching out to your wider network
    • The secret to reinventing yourself
    • Common myths people believe about reinventing yourself 
    • And more!


    Power Presence Academy: Practical Wisdom for Leaders is the go-to podcast for anyone who leads. Your host is Janet Ioli, leadership and human development expert, sought-after coach and advisor to global executives, and former executive with experience in four Fortune 100 companies. She helps leaders ground themselves with confidence, connection, and purpose and learn to lead with Less Ego, More Soul.

    Joanne Lipman is a best-selling author and news executive. She has served as editor in chief of USA Today, USA Today Network, Conde Nast portfolio, and the Wall Street Journal's Weekend Journal.

    Resource Links:

    Read Joanne’s new book Next!: The Power of Reinvention in Life and Work or find out about more of her work here.  

    Connect with today’s guest on LinkedIn: Joanne Lipman


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    Connect with Janet Ioli:

    Website: janetioli.com
    LinkedIn: Janet Ioli
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    YouTube: @janetioli

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    38 min
  • E41: Leading with Intuition with Julie Hill

     “You have to get the basics, you have to have the tools, but the heart will lead you into places that you can't necessarily explain linearly that will help guide you. It took a long time for me to realize that was okay.”
    In this episode, I talk to Julie Hill, a corporate board member, thought leader, former CEO, and all-around superwoman.
    Julie has a history of firsts. First female CEO of the US operations of a London-based international development, construction, mining, and engineering company. First woman board member for Anthem. And the first woman chair of the University of California at Irvine’s Board of Trustees.
    What was most amazing about this interview was that we started out talking about Julie’s wisdom, experience, and advice, which she is full of. What I didn't anticipate was how our conversation evolved and lit up as we moved into talking about synchronicity, intuition, and energy. 
    You don’t want to miss the wisdom on leadership and success Julie Hill shares in this episode!

    In this episode:

    • Using frustration and anger to fuel you
    • Saying yes at the door and figuring out the rest later
    • Being scared but going for it anyway
    • Paying attention to your intuition and the synchronicities in your life


    To read  more about Julie, view her LinkedIn profile here.

    You can find the books we mentioned in this episode below:
    Synchronicity: The Inner Path of Leadership by Joseph Jaworski
    Flow: The Psychology of Optimal Experience by Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi
    The Secret Life of Trees: How They Live and Why They Matter by Colin Tudge
    The Seat of the Soul by Gary Zukav
    Braiding Sweetgrass: Indigenous Wisdom, Scientific Knowledge and the Teachings of Plants by Robin Wall Kimmerer
    Dancing Wu Li Masters: An Overview of the New Physics by Gary Zukav

    If you want to become more grounded, confident, and aligned with your deeper values in just 21 days. Check out my book Less Ego, More Soul: A Modern Reinvention Guide for Women.  

    Escape the Traps: The 7 Hidden Patterns That Sabotage Your Leadership Imprint

    - Get Janet's new book: Amazon | Barnes & Noble | Others

    - Get special discounts when purchasing multiple copies at https://janetioli.com/order 

    Connect with Janet Ioli:

    Website: janetioli.com
    LinkedIn: Janet Ioli
    Instagram: @janetioli
    YouTube: @janetioli

    If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a review on Apple Podcasts.  Select “Listen in Apple Podcasts,” then choose the “Ratings & Reviews” tab to share what you think.  

    Produced by Ideablossoms 

    52 min
  • E40: Embracing Creativity as a Leader with Noah Askin

    “I think creativity really is a function of trying to solve a problem from a new and different perspective. And that new and different perspective does not have to be new or different to the world. In fact, it most likely won't be..”

    In this episode, I talk to Noah Askin, a professor at the University of California’s Merage School of Business. Noah has spent nearly a decade teaching and directing executive development programs at the INSEAD Business School in France, which has been heralded as the business school for the world.

    In the past month, I have received numerous messages from listeners asking me to do an episode on the topic of creativity. As a result, I immediately thought of inviting Noah to the show. I asked him to join us to talk about this important topic of creativity and also its importance in relation to leadership and innovation.

    You'll hear Noah share his ideas about creative problem solving, developing creativity within an individual even if they think they have none, what restricts adults from being creative, and how we can go about becoming more creative within organizations.

    In this episode:

    • Why creativity is such an important trait in leaders
    • Lowering the stakes and expectations of creativity in order to embrace it
    • Developing creativity as an adult and what inhibits this
    • How creativity relates to innovation within organizations
    • The tolerance of failure: taking risks and learning from them.
    • And more!

    Power Presence Academy: Practical Wisdom for Leaders is the go-to podcast for anyone who leads. Your host is Janet Ioli, leadership and human development expert, sought-after coach and advisor to global executives, and former executive with experience in four Fortune 100 companies. She helps leaders ground themselves with confidence, connection, and purpose and learn to lead with Less Ego, More Soul.

    Resource Links:

    Noah Askin is the Assistant Professor of Teaching Organizations & Management at UC-Irvine’s Merage School of Business. His teaching and research topics include networks and networking, creativity (especially in music and the creative industries), leadership, organizational culture, organizational design for innovation, driving change, and managing your status. He continues to direct INSEAD's Product Management Executive Program and Leading for Results, one of the flagship open enrollment leadership programs. 

    Connect with today’s guest on LinkedIn: Noah Askin


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    Connect with Janet Ioli:

    Website: janetioli.com
    LinkedIn: Janet Ioli
    Instagram: @janetioli
    YouTube: @janetioli

    If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a review on Apple Podcasts.  Select “Listen in Apple Podcasts,” then choose the “Ratings & Reviews” tab to share what you think.  

    Produced by Ideablossoms 

    42 min
  • E39: Simplifying the Paradoxes of Leadership with Dave Ulrich

    “Leadership is not about you. It's about how people interpret what you do. It's what somebody gets. Leaders have a job of inspiring and helping the next generation of leadership”

    In this episode, I talk to the legendary Dave Ulrich. Dave is a well-known, highly acclaimed speaker, author, and professor. Dave has been ranked as the #1 management guru by Business Week and has a passion for ideas with impact. His bestselling books and popular speeches have helped shape the corporate agenda, and his work has completely revolutionized the way human resources is practiced and viewed in companies today.

    You’ll hear Dave offer his savvy, no-nonsense, and practical thoughts about the multiple paradoxes leaders face and how to resolve them. We talk about the balance between task and relationship and how great leaders spend their time and energy.  He emphasizes the importance of taking care of others, forming strong bonds and relationships, and co-creating a sustainable business with others. While complexity and uncertainty are givens,  human connection and our guiding principles provide a simplifying compass to help us navigate the way forward. 

    In this episode:

    • The human aspect of leadership
    • Judging people by more than just their behavior. What is their intent?
    • Providing value through giving people what they need, not what we know
    • Being a leader does not mean knowing everything
    • The importance of co-creation in leadership 
    • Navigating complexity and uncertainty
    • Keeping it simple is an art

    Power Presence Academy: Practical Wisdom for Leaders is the go-to podcast for anyone who leads. Your host is Janet Ioli, leadership and human development expert, sought-after coach and advisor to global executives, and former executive.

    Resource Links:

    Dave Ulrich is the Rensis Likert Professor at the Ross School of Business, University of Michigan and a partner at the RBL Group, a consulting firm focused on helping organizations and leaders deliver value. He edited Human Resource Management (1990-99), served on the editorial board of 4 other journals and the Board of Directors for Herman Miller, coached successful business leaders, and is a Distinguished Fellow in the National Academy of Human Resources. He is known for turning complex ideas into simple solutions and creating real value.

    You can find Dave’s books here.

    Connect with today’s guest on LinkedIn: Dave Ulrich

    Escape the Traps: The 7 Hidden Patterns That Sabotage Your Leadership Imprint

    - Get Janet's new book: Amazon | Barnes & Noble | Others

    - Get special discounts when purchasing multiple copies at https://janetioli.com/order 

    Connect with Janet Ioli:

    Website: janetioli.com
    LinkedIn: Janet Ioli
    Instagram: @janetioli
    YouTube: @janetioli

    If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a review on Apple Podcasts.  Select “Listen in Apple Podcasts,” then choose the “Ratings & Reviews” tab to share what you think.  

    Produced by Ideablossoms 

    45 min
  • E38: Building More Inclusive Workplaces with Sally Helgesen

    “When I hear leaders say, diversity is our goal, I think, nope, you're missing it, you're missing it. Diversity is the reality and finding a way to lead your diverse workforce inclusively is your task.”

    In this episode, I talk to Sally Helgesen, a renowned expert on women's leadership and internationally best-selling author who has been inducted into the Thinker's 50 Hall of Fame.

    You'll hear Sally share her wisdom about all things leadership, women's leadership, and how we can build more inclusive workplaces, which is the topic of her new book, “Rising Together”.

    In this episode:

    • Women’s unique perspective on leadership
    • The double bind women face as leaders in the workplace
    • The biggest obstacles that stand in the way of women getting promoted
    • How to build strong and effective teams and relationships with a diverse workforce
    • The triggers that undermine strong relationships in the workplace
    • And more!

    Power Presence Academy: Practical Wisdom for Leaders is the go-to podcast for anyone who leads. Your host is Janet Ioli, leadership and human development expert, sought-after coach and advisor to global executives, and former executive with experience in four Fortune 100 companies. She helps leaders ground themselves with confidence, connection, and purpose and learn to lead with Less Ego, More Soul.

    Resource Links:

    Read Sally’s new book Rising Together: How We Can Bridge Divides and Create a More Inclusive Workplace.

    You can find out more about Sally’s other books here.

    Connect with today’s guest on LinkedIn: Sally Helgesen


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    Connect with Janet Ioli:

    Website: janetioli.com
    LinkedIn: Janet Ioli
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    YouTube: @janetioli

    If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a review on Apple Podcasts.  Select “Listen in Apple Podcasts,” then choose the “Ratings & Reviews” tab to share what you think.  

    Produced by Ideablossoms 

    32 min
  • E37: Navigating Career Transitions with Vice President Candace Givens

    In this episode, I talk to Dr. Candace Givens. Candace is a systems engineer and a vice president at Northrop Grumman who has over 25 years of experience in the aerospace and defense industry.

    You'll hear Candace talk about the unique opportunities she has had and how she has navigated the challenges she has faced as a woman and a woman of color.  Candace emphasizes the importance of taking chances and risks and learning from different people to become the best leader possible.

    In this episode:

    • The willingness to take chances and risks is what makes a great leader
    • The importance of balance - What is really important in your life?
    • Unique challenges as a woman of color in the workforce
    • Learning from failure
    • Learning to navigate career changes and transitions
    • And more!


    Power Presence Academy: Practical Wisdom for Leaders is the go-to podcast for anyone who leads. Your host is Janet Ioli, leadership and human development expert, sought-after coach and advisor to global executives, and former executive with experience in four Fortune 100 companies. She helps leaders ground themselves with confidence, connection, and purpose and learn to lead with Less Ego, More Soul.


    Resource Links:

    Learn more about Candace’s current read  The Fear of Failure: How To Become An Action Taker, Stop Worrying, Overcome Procrastination and Perfectionism by Wilda Hale

    Learn more about the book I recommended Immunity to Change: How to Overcome It and Unlock the Potential in Yourself and Your Organization (Leadership for the Common Good) by Robert Kegan and Lisa Laskow Lahey

    Connect with today’s guest on LinkedIn: Candace Givens


    Escape the Traps: The 7 Hidden Patterns That Sabotage Your Leadership Imprint

    - Get Janet's new book: Amazon | Barnes & Noble | Others

    - Get special discounts when purchasing multiple copies at https://janetioli.com/order 

    Connect with Janet Ioli:

    Website: janetioli.com
    LinkedIn: Janet Ioli
    Instagram: @janetioli
    YouTube: @janetioli

    If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a review on Apple Podcasts.  Select “Listen in Apple Podcasts,” then choose the “Ratings & Reviews” tab to share what you think.  

    Produced by Ideablossoms 

    26 min
  • E36: Making Lasting Impactful Change as a Leader with Lisa Lahey

    Why is making long-lasting, meaningful change so difficult even if you have both the desire and motivation to do so?  Did you know that you have a natural immunity to change?

    In this episode, I talk with Dr. Lisa Lahey to find out more about why making desired changes is so difficult. Dr. Lahey explains what she calls “Immunity to Change™” and we talk about how we can bypass this built-in immunity and become more successful in making the lasting changes we desire.

    Dr. Lahey is the co-founder of Minds at Work and co-author of the book Immunity to Change: How to Overcome It and Unlock the Potential in Yourself and Your Organization (Leadership for the Common Good). Dr. Lahey is a renowned scholar in the field of human development and faculty member at the Harvard Graduate School of Education.


    In this episode:

    • Who is the authentic “you” and how to stay true to that part of yourself
    • The concept of Immunity to Change™
    • The power of being vulnerable
    • Self-protective goals that are not necessarily serving us
    • How to uncover and challenge your own faulty assumptions
    • Real-life examples of immunity to change
    • And more!



    Power Presence Academy: Practical Wisdom for Leaders is the go-to podcast for anyone who leads. Your host is Janet Ioli, leadership and human development expert, sought-after coach and advisor to global executives, and former executive with experience in four Fortune 100 companies. She helps leaders ground themselves with confidence, connection, and purpose and learn to lead with Less Ego, More Soul.


    Resource Links:

    • Lisa Lahey and Robert Kegan’s book Immunity to Change: How to Overcome It and Unlock the Potential in Yourself and Your Organization (Leadership for the Common Good)
    • Find all about Lisa’s other books here
    • To learn more about the Immunity to Change™ methodology visit Minds at Work

     
    Connect with today’s guest on LinkedIn: Lisa Lahey


    Escape the Traps: The 7 Hidden Patterns That Sabotage Your Leadership Imprint

    - Get Janet's new book: Amazon | Barnes & Noble | Others

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    Connect with Janet Ioli:

    Website: janetioli.com
    LinkedIn: Janet Ioli
    Instagram: @janetioli
    YouTube: @janetioli

    If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a review on Apple Podcasts.  Select “Listen in Apple Podcasts,” then choose the “Ratings & Reviews” tab to share what you think.  

    Produced by Ideablossoms 

    58 min
  • E35: The Essence of Leadership with Joseph Jaworski, Part 2 of 2

    “There is a source of new knowledge that can help you create and discover solutions to intractable problems that you're facing personally or in the organization.”

    Welcome back to my amazing conversation with Joseph Jarowski, in the final episode of this special two-part series.

    Joseph Jaworski has devoted much of his life to exploring the deeper dimensions of transformational leadership. As founder and chairman of both Generon International and the Global Leadership Initiative, Joseph advises CEOs and senior executives in Fortune 500 companies. He is well-known in the field of leadership development and worked with Peter Senge as one of the founders of the Society of Organizational Learning. He is the author of several highly acclaimed books that explore the essence of leadership.

    If you are interested and you are serious about being a better leader and a better human, today’s episode will help you on your path as we explore the “Source” of all knowledge and how to tap into the knowledge that resides in the universe.


    In this episode:

    • What the source of new knowledge is
    • How to create the conditions to tap into the “Source”
    • The critical importance of acting swiftly in flow
    • Differentiating between a signal and your own ideas
    • What you should focus on to be a better human and leader
    • And more!


    If you missed the previous episode, make sure to catch up on the Power Presence Academy Podcast Episode 34: The Essence of Leadership with Joseph Jaworski, Part 1 of 2.

    Power Presence Academy: Practical Wisdom for Leaders is the go-to podcast for anyone who leads. Your host is Janet Ioli, leadership and human development expert, sought-after coach and advisor to global executives, and former executive with experience in four Fortune 100 companies. She helps leaders ground themselves with confidence, connection, and purpose and learn to lead with Less Ego, More Soul.


    Resource Links:

    • Find out more about Joseph Jaworski’s critically acclaimed books here.
    • Erich Fromm’s The Art Of Loving

     
    Connect with today’s guest on LinkedIn: Joseph Jaworski


    Escape the Traps: The 7 Hidden Patterns That Sabotage Your Leadership Imprint

    - Get Janet's new book: Amazon | Barnes & Noble | Others

    - Get special discounts when purchasing multiple copies at https://janetioli.com/order 

    Connect with Janet Ioli:

    Website: janetioli.com
    LinkedIn: Janet Ioli
    Instagram: @janetioli
    YouTube: @janetioli

    If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a review on Apple Podcasts.  Select “Listen in Apple Podcasts,” then choose the “Ratings & Reviews” tab to share what you think.  

    Produced by Ideablossoms 

    24 min
  • E34: The Essence of Leadership with Joseph Jaworski, Part 1 of 2

    “I mean, there are thousands of books on leadership, but this is my view of it. If you ask me, ‘Well, what is leadership? What is embodied leadership or generative leadership? I would say it's the capacity to create new realities.”

    Join me and Joseph Jaworski today in the first episode of a special two-part series. We talk about the new kind of leadership that is needed in this future that lies ahead of us, and how to cultivate the qualities and leadership presence required to shape the future instead of just reacting to it.

    Joseph Jaworski has devoted much of his life to exploring the deeper dimensions of transformational leadership. As founder and chairman of both Generon International and the Global Leadership Initiative, Joseph advises CEOs and senior executives in Fortune 500 companies. He is well-known in the field of leadership development and worked with Peter Senge as one of the founders of the Society of Organizational Learning. He is the author of several highly acclaimed books that explore the essence of leadership.


    In this episode:

    • The Waco incident, David Bohm, and Joseph’s leadership dream
    • What embodied leadership or generative leadership is
    • 3 steps to take on the inner journey to become a generative leader
    • Self-mastery 101: beginner’s mind and inner stillness
    • The 4 critical elements for organizational transformation
    • And more!


    Make sure to tune back into the Power Presence Academy Podcast next week to hear the rest of this incredible interview.


    Power Presence Academy: Practical Wisdom for Leaders is the go-to podcast for anyone who leads. Your host is Janet Ioli, leadership and human development expert, sought-after coach and advisor to global executives, and former executive with experience in four Fortune 100 companies. She helps leaders ground themselves with confidence, connection, and purpose and learn to lead with Less Ego, More Soul.


    Resource Links:

    • Find out more about Joseph Jaworski’s critically acclaimed books here.
    • Learn more about David Bohm and the implicate order in his book Wholeness and the Implicate Order.

     
    Connect with today’s guest on LinkedIn: Joseph Jaworski


    Escape the Traps: The 7 Hidden Patterns That Sabotage Your Leadership Imprint

    - Get Janet's new book: Amazon | Barnes & Noble | Others

    - Get special discounts when purchasing multiple copies at https://janetioli.com/order 

    Connect with Janet Ioli:

    Website: janetioli.com
    LinkedIn: Janet Ioli
    Instagram: @janetioli
    YouTube: @janetioli

    If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a review on Apple Podcasts.  Select “Listen in Apple Podcasts,” then choose the “Ratings & Reviews” tab to share what you think.  

    Produced by Ideablossoms 

    31 min

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