In this episode, Sam and Heidi get into the very real, veryhuman side of change - not the fancy project plans or colour‑coded timelines, but the messy internal emotionally driven stuff we all feel yet rarely talk about.
They chat about why adults struggle more than kids withletting go, why the “in-between” bit (aka the neutral zone) feels like emotional limbo, and how even something as small as hot‑desking can send our nervous system into meltdown. From fear and overwhelm to opportunity and growth, this one’s for anyone going through anything that feels likelife shifting around a bit.
And yes, Dolly the Cockapoo joins them as unofficial third host.
In this episode:
Change vs transition: A chat about the difference between what physically changes and what emotionally shifts underneath it.
The emotions of transition: Fear, overwhelm, excitement and everything in between and why they all show up.
How mindset shapes the experience: How growth vs fixed mindset affects how we cope with change.
The neutral zone (the messy middle): Why this in‑between stage feels chaotic but is actually where the good stuff happens.
Real-life examples: Hot-desking, moving offices, shifting hours and why even small changes can feel big.
Practical tips for navigating change: Simple ways to make transitions feel less overwhelming and more manageable.
Frameworks mentioned:
For anyone who likes a visual or wants to go down a littleGoogle rabbit hole:
Bridges Transition Model: Ending & Letting Go / Neutral zone / New beginnings
Thomas–Kilmann Conflict Mode Instrument (TKI)
Takeaways from the chat:
The transition, not the change, is where the emotional weight lies.
Fear is often the root feeling, name it and it becomes easier.
Change is not 'one and done', it will always evolve.
Small steps, rather than big leaps when navigating changes.
Everyone experiences change and transitions differently and kindness always helps.
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