What happens when you stop trying to follow the rules, and start sharing your voice as it really is?

In this lively and inspiring conversation, I sit down with writer, ghostwriter, and community builder Jillian Richardson, whose viral “Make LinkedIn Weird” post reminded thousands that authenticity beats polish every time. We explore the beauty of getting a little weird on purpose, and how that choice can unlock creativity, clarity, and real connection in your business.

Jillian opens up about:

• Rewriting what it means to be “professional”
• Finding confidence in your creative voice (even when it feels cringy)
• Letting go of patterns that don’t serve you
• Using storytelling as a tool for visibility and self-trust
• Tapping into your natural rhythms (and trusting the slower seasons too)

If you’ve been waiting to feel ready, polished, or “clear enough” to share, this episode is your permission slip to start now, make it weird, and make it yours.

• [00:00] – Reconnecting and Reflecting on Past Connections
• [04:02] – The Birth of a Newsletter and Community Building
• [05:48] – Evolving Business Paths and Embracing Change
• [08:41] – Navigating Uncertainty in Professional Growth
• [11:39] – Finding Meaning in Professional Relationships
• [14:10] – Redefining Professionalism in a Post-COVID World
• [18:14] – Standing in Your Own Power and Value
• [21:43] – The Challenge of Pricing and Self-Worth
• [23:35] – Embracing Accessibility in Professional Development
• [26:24] – The Power of Authenticity in Content Creation
• [30:44] – Vulnerability as a Tool for Connection
• [34:24] – Navigating Financial Growth and Self-Worth
• [40:23] – Trusting the Cycles of Life and Work
• [42:07] – Introduction to Jillian Richardson and Her Journey
• [42:58] – Overcoming Internal Barriers to Success

• Visit Jillian’s Website
• Learn more about Jillian’s course for LinkedIn
• Connect with Jillian on LinkedIn 

What if the thing that’s been getting in the way is actually just a funny little part of being human… not a flaw to fix?

In this episode, I’m joined by Fiona Lukeis—relationship specialist, founder of Relatable, and author of the newly released Funny Little Human. We talk about how seeing our humanness with lightness and love can shift everything—from how we relate to others, to how we move through conflict, to how we soften toward ourselves.

This conversation is full of honesty, insight, and real-life examples that bring Fiona’s work to life. Whether you’re navigating a relationship, leading a team, or simply feeling the weight of trying to get it all right, this episode offers a fresh, freeing perspective.

[00:00] - Introduction to 'Funny Little Human'

[04:38] - The Importance of Humor in Humanity

[07:31] - Personal Journey and Self-Discovery

[10:24] - The Role of Energy in Relationships

[13:38] - Understanding Humaneness and Relationships

[16:28] - The Three Key Relationships

[19:39] - The Impact of Life's Challenges on Relationships

[22:51] - Self-Inquiry and Emotional Availability

[25:39] - Creating a Positive Climate in Relationships

[28:35] - The Power of Lightness in Communication

[31:28] - Seeing the Humor in Everyday Life

[34:34] - The Essence of Love and Connection

[37:36] - The Invitation to Awareness and Growth

[43:16] - Introduction to Fiona Lucas and Her Work

[44:13] - Exploring Compassion and Emotional Freedom

• Visit Fiona's website
• Listen to the Relatable Podcast
• Follow Fiona on Instagram
• Learn more about Fiona's book Funny Little Human: Transform the Way You See Yourself and the Ones You Love

What if momentum, success, and creativity weren’t something you had to force? In this solo episode, Barb shares a transformative insight that changed the way she approaches business, creativity, and life: we are not the wind—we catch it.

Through personal stories, client examples, and reflections from decades of experience, she invites you to stop pushing and start listening. You’ll explore what it means to align with the natural rhythm of life, how to tell the difference between mental momentum and natural momentum, and why “not now” might be one of the most powerful directions you’ll ever receive.

If you’re feeling stuck, forcing something that used to work, or unsure whether to keep pushing or pause, this episode offers a compass to realign with what’s alive, true, and meant for you.

• [00:00] - Catching the Wind: A New Perspective
• [04:08] - Listening to the Natural Momentum
• [11:36] - The Dance of Creativity and Flow

• Explore the Website
• Learn about the upcoming IMPACT Training
• Follow Barb on LinkedIn

What if so much of what we think is “real” is actually just imagination?

In this conversation, my friend and colleague Dr. Amy Johnson explores the nature of thought, the illusion of self, and the felt truth of what’s here beyond the mind.

We talk about the subtle (and not-so-subtle) ways we live in imagination—how our minds narrate, label, and interpret life in ways that keep us removed from its raw, direct beauty. Amy shares how her understanding has shifted over the years, moving from helping people with habits and anxiety to now pointing more directly to truth… which, as she says, isn’t really something you can describe—but it can absolutely be felt.

Together we explore what it means to follow sensation, allow what is, and surrender to the mystery that’s always here when we stop trying to manage or figure it all out.

This isn’t a conversation about concepts. It’s an invitation to be in life, as life. And to rediscover what’s real—not in thought, but in presence.

I’m so grateful to share this one with you.

• [00:00] - Introduction and Personal Connection
• [04:30] - The Nature of Thought and Reality
• [10:05] - Experiencing Life Beyond Thought
• [15:46] - The Role of Sensation in Understanding
• [22:50] - Meeting Emotions Without Resistance
• [27:38] - Exploring the Concept of No Self
• [35:01] - The Journey of Inquiry and Curiosity
• [40:35] - Embracing What Is and Aliveness
• [51:13] - Exploring the Nature of Reality
• [52:09] - The Illusion of the Personal Self

• Visit Amy’s Website
• Follow Amy on Instagram
• Listen to the Changeable Podcast

In this episode of The Innerverse of Business & Life, I sit down with Lily Sais—founder of Peace From Within, former school psychologist, and TikTok creator whose videos have touched the lives of millions.

Lily and I explore her deeply personal journey with anxiety, intrusive thoughts, and panic attacks—and how those experiences ultimately opened a door to her creativity, healing, and purpose. She shares how the Three Principles changed everything, how she moved from white-knuckling through life to embracing her true nature, and how her desire to serve others sparked a business and community that continues to grow.

We talk about:

• The moment that shifted her relationship with anxiety
• What gave her the courage to start sharing publicly (even when it felt terrifying)
• The surprising gift of going viral—and the backlash that came with it
• Letting creativity lead the way (and why less effort can bring more clarity)
• Navigating ADHD, business pressure, and visibility with grace
• And how, at the heart of it all, fun and aliveness are still guiding her path

Whether you’re navigating anxiety, building a business, or just craving more freedom in your life—this conversation is full of insights, humanity, and hope.

Lily is the real deal. I’m so grateful to share her story with you.

• [00:00] – Introduction to Peace From Within
• [04:29] – The Journey of Anxiety and Panic Attacks
• [08:55] – Discovering the Three Principles Understanding
• [12:35] – Insights on Anxiety and Mental Health
• [17:50] – Transitioning from School Psychology to Coaching
• [23:14] – Launching a Business During the Pandemic
• [29:31] – Embracing Creativity and Authenticity on Social Media
• [36:58] – The Impact of Sharing Personal Stories
• [41:04] – Navigating Vulnerability and Visibility
• [50:04] – Embracing Neurodiversity in Business
• [58:54] – Finding Joy and Lightness in Business

• Visit Lily’s Website
• Join the Peace from Within Community
• Follow Lily on Instagram
• Follow Lily on TikTok

Have you ever found yourself living in a smaller version of your life—not because you want to, but because of all the thoughts, rules, and self-protections you’ve piled up along the way?

In this short episode, I reflect on what it means to unknowingly “hoard” thoughts and beliefs that limit us. Inspired by a client story and my own insights, I explore how we innocently make conclusions about who we are and what we’re capable of based on past experiences—and how this inner clutter shrinks our world.

But here’s the good news: when we see thought for what it is, it begins to fall away. And as it does, we tap back into something deeper, more spacious, and infinitely more alive within us.

This episode is an invitation to clear some mental space, trust your deeper nature, and remember: you are not fragile. You have what you need to ride the waves and expand into new possibilities.

• [01:23] The Impact of Overthinking on Personal Growth
• [03:31] Expanding Our World Beyond Limitations
• [10:20] Embracing Uncertainty and the Human Experience
• [17:09] Discovering Potential Through New Experiences

• Visit Barb's Website
• Learn about the upcoming IMPACT Training
• Follow Barb on Linkedin

Is your mind working for you or against you? In this insightful conversation, Barb Patterson and Clare Dimond explore how our thoughts shape the way we experience business, leadership, and creativity. Clare shares how years of self-consciousness and overanalyzing kept her stuck in mental loops—until she saw the mind in an entirely new way.

In this episode, we dive into:

✅ The difference between real-world challenges and imagined problems

✅ Why self-consciousness limits our potential—and what happens when we move beyond it

✅ The role of curiosity in navigating uncertainty and decision-making

✅ How identity and fear shape our actions (and how to work with them differently)

✅ What a clear, engaged mind looks like in business and life

If you’ve ever felt weighed down by overthinking, self-doubt, or the pressure to get things right, this episode offers a fresh and freeing perspective.

In this deep and illuminating conversation, Rohini Ross shares the journey of her own evolution—from therapist to coach to transformational guide—exploring how our resistance to experience creates unnecessary struggle and how real change comes from allowing life to unfold.

Together, we explore:

• The transition from therapy to coaching and the insights that changed everything
• How we unknowingly resist our experience and why that leads to suffering
• The role of conditioning and coping mechanisms in shaping our patterns
• The power of presence, curiosity, and an open heart in unlocking healing and transformation
• Why trying to fix ourselves keeps us stuck—and what to do instead

Rohini beautifully articulates how we can move beyond overthinking, control, and the pressure to "get it right" and instead trust the deeper intelligence that moves through all of us. Whether you're a coach, a leader, or someone seeking more ease and flow in life, this conversation invites you to step into a new way of being—one of openness, trust, and deep inner wisdom.

• [00:00] The Journey of Transformation
• [05:43] From Therapy to Coaching: A New Perspective
• [08:14] Understanding Anxiety and Insecurity
• [10:54] The Power of Presence and Acceptance
• [14:07] Rewilding: Embracing Our True Nature
• [16:34] Patterns and Coping Mechanisms
• [19:28] The Role of Vulnerability in Healing
• [22:09] Navigating Trauma and Emotional Experience
• [24:38] The Impact of Relationships on Wellbeing
• [27:24] Trusting the Unfolding of Life
• [29:56] Awareness and the Present Moment
• [32:42] Curiosity as a Tool for Exploration
• [35:33] The Healing Power of an Open Heart

• Find Rohini at TheRewilders.org.

Have you ever found yourself stuck in decision paralysis—overanalyzing, second-guessing, and waiting for more certainty? In this solo episode, Barb Patterson dives into decision-making and why successful entrepreneurs embrace uncertainty rather than fear it. Through personal stories and insights, she explores how overthinking can slow momentum, why certainty is an illusion, and how you can trust your innate ability to adapt and navigate any outcome.

If you've been hesitating on a business idea, life change, or bold move, this episode is for you. Tune in and discover:

✔ Why no decision is ever completely risk-free—and why that’s okay.

✔ How to shift from hesitation to decisive action.

✔ The hidden reasons we delay decisions (and how to move past them).

✔ What happens when you trust yourself and step into the unknown.

Listen now and start making decisions with more confidence and ease. If this episode resonates, share it with someone who needs it!

• [00:54] The Art of Quick Decision Making
• [03:43] Understanding the Weight of Decisions
• [06:40] Navigating Hesitation and Overthinking
• [09:26] Embracing Uncertainty in Decision Making
• [11:18] Discovering Your Potential Through Decisions

• Explore the Website
• Learn about the upcoming IMPACT Training
• Follow Barb on Linkedin

In this episode, Barb sits down with Jacquie Moses to explore the profound connection between our inner world and outer experiences. Together, they discuss how tuning into our emotions, trusting inner wisdom, and embracing our life’s sacredness can help us face change and unlock new opportunities. Change doesn’t have to be overwhelming—it can be sacred.

Jacquie and Barb explore the art of navigating life’s transitions through self-discovery and inner wisdom. Jacquie shares heartfelt insights on understanding emotions, creating inner stability, and learning to trust your intuition for both personal and professional growth.

Listen now to uncover how letting go of external dependencies and tuning into your inner guidance can open the door to fulfillment—and opportunities.

Tune in to explore a fresh, more peaceful way to approach life’s challenges.

• [00:00] Exploring the Inner and Outer Worlds
• [00:54] The Journey of Self-Discovery
• [05:52] Evolving Understanding of Emotions
• [10:49] The Sacredness of Life Experiences
• [16:56] Navigating Emotions and Inner Wisdom
• [23:07] The Power of Trusting Intuition
• [28:50] Transformative Moments in Business
• [34:57] Embracing Change and New Beginnings
• [40:07] Final Thoughts and Reflections

• Connect with Jacquie on LinkedIn