In this edition of The End of The Line Podcast, I am joined by Ramsey Russell and Ira McCauley for part five of "The Innovator." It wasn't planned but good gosh it was worth it. I didn't talk much, so that should make most of you happy. Ramsey and Ira spend the first few minutes talking about Canada and the changes they see coming down the pipe with hunting there. Are Americans wearing out their welcome? Then, we spend most of the episode talking about why numbers mean so much to a waterfowler these days. Why should a number determines a hunter's level of satisfaction pertaining to a hunt? It turns out to be one hell of a episode.