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Can extroverted leaders become powerful introvert allies? Holly Golebiowski did—and in this episode, she shares how.
A naturally extroverted leader, Holly didn’t realize her communication style was steamrolling quieter team members—until someone finally pointed it out. That wake-up call set her on a new path: becoming a more self-aware leader, learning to build inclusive team dynamics, and championing quieter voices in the workplace.
Today, Holly is a founding facilitator of Leader Skills and an advocate for healthy leadership habits that empower introverts and extroverts alike. She shares practical strategies like using an “introvert safe word” to pause high-velocity meetings, finding extrovert allies to amplify your voice, and navigating leadership roles when you feel out of your depth.
This episode is a must-listen for both introverts and extroverts who want to lead with empathy, awareness, and quiet influence.
🎙️ In this episode, we explore:
📘 Key Lessons
🔗 Connect with Holly Golebiowski
🕒 Episode Breakdown:
(00:00) Holly’s journey from extroverted leader to introvert ally
(03:00) Common leadership traps and default behaviors
(06:30) Using DISC to better understand your team
(10:00) How to speak up when you’re being steamrolled
(12:00) “Introvert safe words” and other inclusion tools
(15:00) When leadership feels bigger than you—how to grow into it
(18:30) Reframing discomfort as growth
(22:00) Visibility tips for introverts
(26:00) Mentorship and allyship in modern workplaces
(30:00) Coaching yourself through challenge
(34:00) Building influence through curiosity and empathy
(41:00) Leading with quiet strength
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After 20 years of high-functioning denial, David J. Greer finally admitted to his coach—and himself—that he had a problem with alcohol.
The two had built trust over the past 18 months, and he knew that once he said the words out loud, there was no going back. He could never again lie about it to himself, because his coach would hold him accountable.
“I knew he would never let me off the hook.”
That same day, he walked into a recovery meeting and began a journey that would not only change his life, but reshape his purpose.
Sixteen years later, David is sober, thriving, and coaching entrepreneurs to find the same clarity and courage that saved him. In this penetrating conversation, he shares this what addiction taught him about leadership, how entrepreneurs can build resilient companies by starting with themselves, and he speaks with rare poignancy on why the most compassionate thing you can do, for yourself or others, is to confront your deepest fears.
All addictions—whether to work, media, sex, or substances—are rooted in the same deep, subconscious fears of inadequacy. They play out in the same cycles of shame and compulsion.
His professional approach blends strategic rigor with deep empathy, and a rare understanding of what it means to change your life from the inside out.
“This is my purpose in life,” he says. “To share my experience, strength, and hope. And to let people know: if you struggle with alcohol, there is a solution. But you can’t solve it on your own.”
This episode is packed with practical wisdom for anyone who wants to lead with more courage, clarity, and care. Whether you’re leading a team, navigating change, or struggling quietly with your own demons, his message is clear: you don’t have to go it alone.
What you’ll learn:
* How coaching and accountability helped David confront a 20-year addiction—and why it took 18 months to admit the truth
* Why true kindness in leadership means giving people honest feedback and holding them accountable
* What “being selfish” can really mean—and why it’s essential for high performers to replenish themselves
* The hidden emotional costs of overachievement and people-pleasing—and how to break the cycle
* How culture stems from founders’ values—and how to discover and shape those values intentionally
* Why not every company is a good fit—and how to evaluate culture before taking the job
* Why it’s never too early to start leading from where you are
* What recovering from burnout and addiction can teach us about being fully present
Some takeaways:
* The most selfish thing David does? Keeping a coach. Because if he doesn’t take care of himself, he has nothing to give.
* “Being kind” doesn’t mean avoiding hard conversations. Real kindness is helping people grow.
* Your leadership values mean nothing unless you live them.
* You can’t think your way into recovery—you need support.
* Culture isn’t about whether people like the same sports team. It’s about shared values in action.
* Introverts and quiet leaders have just as much to offer—sometimes more.
* Coaching isn’t just for executives. If you can’t afford one, find a mentor.
* You don’t need to wait for permission to start leading. Show up now.
Where to find David J. Greer:
Website: coachdjgreer.com
Free 1-hour coaching offer available through his site
In this episode, we cover:
(00:00) David’s journey from startup executive to coach
(01:45) The challenge of staying sober in high-pressure business environments
(04:00) The importance of self-care and the permission to be “selfish”
(07:30) David’s addiction story—and the playground moment that opened his eyes
(10:00) The deeper fears behind addiction: people-pleasing, overachieving, feeling not good enough
(13:00) The turning point: 18 months of coaching, and finally a breakthrough
(16:00) Building trust with a coach—and why accountability was everything
(22:00) Celebrating 16 years of sobriety—and the support that made it possible
(23:30) Coaching others through recovery, entrepreneurship, and culture change
(29:00) Why founders must live their values—or no one will
(32:00) Culture fit, job hunting, and asking better questions in interviews
(34:00) Kindness vs. niceness—and why accountability is love
(39:00) Finding work that energizes you—and coaching others to do the same
(41:00) Advice for aspiring leaders: don’t wait to start leading
(42:00) Where to find David and his free coaching offer
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What if the real cause of toxic workplaces isn’t bad culture—but bad leadership?
Leadership coach and DEI strategist Desiree Goldey believes most companies are skipping the most critical step: teaching people how to lead.
As founder of Do Better Consulting and a senior advisor at ZRG Partners, Desiree helps organizations go beyond checkbox DEI to build inclusive cultures—starting with self-aware leaders. From the C-suite to middle management, she teaches practical emotional intelligence, real self-care, and intentional leadership for a new era.
In this episode, she shares how to develop your leadership style, avoid burnout, and mentor others without losing yourself. We explore how Gen Z is reshaping expectations, how introverts can become empathetic leaders, and why self-reflection—not status—is the real foundation of success.
Whether you’re a seasoned executive or a rising leader, this conversation will challenge how you think about power, impact, and what kind of leader you want to be.
🔑 Key Lessons:
🧭 Episode Topics:
(00:00) Supporting quiet and marginalized voices
(01:45) What makes workplaces toxic—and how leadership can fix it
(04:45) The real leadership training gap
(08:15) The emotional toll of leadership and how to reflect
(10:00) Defining an authentic leadership style
(14:00) Why self-awareness is the foundation of growth
(16:00) Mentorship as culture change
(18:15) Why many people pursue leadership for the wrong reasons
(23:30) Budgeting, feedback, and the hardest parts of leadership
(28:30) What Desiree’s bookshelf says about how she leads
(30:15) Self-care that actually works
(33:00) Where to follow and learn more from Desiree Goldey
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What does it take to build one of the best places to work in the world?
For Chris Dyer, it started with a bold question: “What if we did this differently?”
As CEO of PeopleG2, Chris led a remote team that consistently ranked among the best places to work—and landed on Inc. Magazine’s fastest-growing companies list five times.
In this episode of Powerful Introvert, Chris breaks down exactly how he did it.
From building psychological safety for introverts to designing innovative meeting formats like the Cockroach, Ostrich, and Tsunami, this conversation is a masterclass in culture-building, remote leadership, and real empowerment.
Chris shares the 7 essential pillars of a great culture, how to make toxic people opt out, and why clarity, consistency, and compassion beat control every time. Whether you lead a team, a startup, or a large org, these ideas will change how you think about leadership.
🔑 What You’ll Learn:
🕒 Episode Breakdown:
(00:00) Chris’s signature glasses and the origin of his culture focus
(02:45) Why great culture requires intentionality
(05:20) Productivity and profitability: the culture connection
(06:40) The 7 pillars of a thriving culture
(10:05) What “celebrating uniqueness” looks like in practice
(13:00) Norms that make toxic behavior impossible to sustain
(17:20) Innovative meeting types: Cockroach, Ostrich, Tsunami, and Tiger Team
(25:20) Enforcing real time off—and why Chris deleted 1,000 unread emails
(31:00) Moving all internal communication to Slack
(36:00) Drawing out quiet voices and managing over-talkers
(43:00) Bonding rituals: “How are you showing up today?”
(49:00) Leadership rules: be flexible on small things, firm on big ones
(51:00) Let your team fail—it’s where the growth happens
(53:00) How culture saved Chris’s company during COVID
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Coach Josh Wood is a powerful introvert: a fitness coach and TEDx speaker who guides his clients as far as they want to go, from their couches to the peaks of the Himalayas.
Based in Hobart, Tasmania, he coaches health and fitness worldwide, from tactical athletes like firefighters and police, to sports athletes, to normal professionals like me.
Though he’s certainly physically powerful—competing in powerlifting, Brazilian Jiu Jitzu and a certain strongman competition involving 80 kilo metal logs—his real influence comes from helping his clients build an unshakable self-confidence that propels them to achieving goals they never thought possible, one baby step at a time.
In this episode, we talk about it’s like to show up as an introvert in a profession where being an extrovert is the norm, and what it’s like to prepare for a TEDx talk. I couldn’t help asking about the “The Six Habits to Eat Like an Adult,” from his talk.
Regarding self-confidence he says,
" I think people generally have the wrong idea… I came at the tail end of the participation award era where everybody got an award for everything they did. [I was told to] just be confident. And that's not a real thing. You gain confidence by proving your competence to yourself.
He details the role of motivation and discipline in achieving difficult things—techniques that work no matter what your personality type.
Josh is a great guy making a very positive impact on the world. I hope you listen to his story and watch and share the TEDx talk!
To find out more about Josh, see:
* Strong For Life Coaching
* Instagram: @coachjoshwood
* Facebook: @coachjoshw
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Tim Christensen has served as Chief Product Officer—the product and technology leader—at multiple software companies, driving hundreds of millions of dollars in revenue. To anyone who’s met him, he’s outspoken and anything but shy. “I’m often the loudest person in the room,” he says. Yet, he admits, “I almost never look forward to social gatherings.” Sound familiar? Sure enough, Tim consistently tests as an introvert on the Myers-Briggs assessment.
Tim sees limited value in labels like “introversion” but uses personality tests with his teams as tools for self-discovery. He believes they help people better understand and accept themselves. “The tests themselves are just different ways to help you understand who you are,” he explains. For example, they can reveal insights such as: “What triggers me? When do I get emotional? What drives my stress? Why do I procrastinate?”
Tim delivers outsized results by empowering his teams and helping people embrace their strengths. He seeks out individuals who are passionate about personal growth, life, and collaboration—those who are kind, empathetic, and team-oriented. While he doesn’t hire exclusively introverts, he prioritizes balance, ensuring each person plays their role in supporting the team. His leadership style is deeply rooted in authenticity—an approach he’s always found effective. “Also, I suck at faking it,” he adds.
While he recognizes that quick thinking—a skill he possesses—is highly valued in business leadership, Tim is intentionally pushing himself to be a slow thinker. He actively seeks input from the deep thinkers around him and creates space for thoughtful reflection whenever possible. Rather than relying on group brainstorming to generate ideas and solutions, he advocates a different approach. “Don’t do it,” he advises. “Write it down … let people think. That’s good for me. And it’s good for you.”
Let people think. That’s good for me. And it’s good for you.
When asked what drives him to keep pushing, Tim reflects, “Life is short. Who wants their gravestone to say, ‘I made a lot of money’?” Instead, he strives for something more meaningful. “I want to look back and be really proud. How can I be the best father possible? The best provider? What impact did I have? What’s the next thing I want to do to grow?”
His advice for quieter individuals looking to become better leaders is simple: “Find an advocate who appreciates you for who you are.” He cautions against staying in environments where a boss might try to force them into being someone they’re not. “Avoid potentially abusive relationships,” he advises. “Have someone who wants to embrace who you are.”
For Tim, being quiet is no disqualifier for leadership. “If you look at teams, sometimes you have the quiet leaders who are the captains, and sometimes you have the person jumping up and down on the sidelines. They’re both effective—they’re just different.”
He also emphasizes the importance of pursuing leadership for the right reasons. It’s not about thinking, I have great ideas, but rather about being “a great listener” and being driven to help others improve together. “If you’re driven by helping those around you,” he says, “find someone who will appreciate that, and you’ll blossom.”
I hope you all enjoy this interview as much as I did.
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In this episode of Powerful Introvert we interview our first, live extrovert!
Greg Schramm, a Product Manager and owner of a small-batch coffee roaster Bud’s Coffee is a garrulous extrovert—testing ENTJ (J for Judgmental) on his Meyers-Briggs for years. But a career spent working with introverted engineers and listening to customers has so shaped his outlook, a recent test scored him ENTP (P for Prospecting). In other words, he traded his J attitude, pushing his own ideas first, for a more listening, collaborative P approach that makes room for everyone’s voice. This shift has made him more effective a work, and improved his personal life.
Schramm also shares his entertaining journey from high school, when a fateful parental discussion landed him in the Navy, some dramatic work lessons that highlight the best ways to motivate people, places where being an extrovert do help him, and his recent experience landing a tech job in this economy.
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In this first interview I speak with Jeff Cowan. We met 14 years ago at a local tech company where I was abruptly introduced to his team as their new manager. The team was cut out of the process and the news of my hiring, in Jeff's words, “was not universally well received.” This was my first stint as an engineering manager, and Jeff was really kind and helped me navigate some pretty choppy waters.
Jeff is an introvert and a very well-respected technical leader. We discuss:
* his journey as a technical leader
* the importance of self-awareness for introverts
* how we can take care of ourselves in high stimulus environments
* how the workplace has changed over the years
* we lament the demise of the private office
* and speculate if we're all just Guinea pigs in some architect’s, grand social experiment
I had a fantastic time talking to Jeff and I'm so appreciative of his being my first guest. Hope you enjoy the episode!
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We’re here to talk about being an introvert, our incredible strengths and the challenges we face in business. We’ll explore how society’s values and hidden assumptions favor extroverted leaders, and how that hurts us all. You’ll hear interviews with business leaders, experts in the field, and with people like you and me - just trying to make sense of this and improve our lives. Plus you’ll get practical advice for your career and personal wellbeing.
So let’s dive in
I’m an introvert and I’m a tech executive with 20+ years working in software startups. It’s taken me a lot of work and personal growth to make my way as a leader, and to be clear - I don’t have all the answers.
Working in tech, as you may guess, I know a few introverts. I’ve mentored quite a few, but it wasn’t until I started researching this topic that I realized how widespread introversion really was. Academic studies estimate up to 50% of the population qualify as introverts - though clearly there’s a spectrum.
Even if you say 30% that’s a huge population that struggles with core aspects of their personality - things that in reality are their strengths. Introverts think, feel, and process information deeply - and yes, internally. They can be excellent listeners, collaborators, and strategic thinkers, and yes, public speakers. You’ll count Warren Buffett, Bill Gates, Mahatma Ghandi, Rosa Parks, Barack Obama, Marissa Mayer, and Abraham Lincoln among your Pantheon of introverted leaders.
Introverts have massive untapped potential to offer in business, and that’s a world-changing opportunity. That’s more happiness, more productivity and economic gain - if we can just make more room for the quiet voices in the room.
So what’s stopping us?
The business world is still very confused about introverts.
From our executive teams, to our boardrooms and business schools, we glorify the loud, outspoken, attention grabbing leader. Extroversion is still very much the ticket to get ahead in most places.
There must be some reasons for this. Maybe it’s that extroverts are actually smarter, or have some lock on the best ideas. Is that true in your experience? Psychology studies show most of us do think that’s true. They call this our extrovert bias. Does that mean maybe introverts are smarter? No. The best ideas are evenly distributed across the population regardless of how outspoken you are.
This bias toward extroverted leaders means we’re stifling up to half of our best ideas. What is the wasted economic potential of losing half of your best ideas? Could you even measure it in trillions of dollars? And this is just setting aside the cost in human happiness.
This is just one of the reasons I’m so fired up about this.
Here’s my personal story, and why I’m doing this now
I’m an introverted leader, and frankly, until recently, I wasn’t fully able to admit that to myself. It seemed like a contradiction in terms. In truth, I’d been fighting this part of myself for decades.
I had internalized this cultural bias from an early age, through family experiences you may have had, being shamed for being quiet, or needing some space (“speak up”, “stand up straight”, “I can’t hear you”, or “stop being be so shy”), and these cues persisted in schools. By the time I reached the workforce, and advanced in my career, and became drawn to leadership, I saw my introversion as a deep flaw, something to eradicate, which - at my age, seemed increasingly unlikely.
I was a walking mass of contradictions. In many ways I’m a typical introvert - I love writing, contemplation, meditation, working alone on a problem. But what I’ve come to value even more is collaborating with a team, leading teams, mentorship. I even enjoy public speaking. On the flip side, I hate networking, and I have a fairly short social battery with strangers. What the hell was wrong with me?
That’s when I came across Susan Cain’s work, her book Quiet and her famous TED talk. She was the first one to shine a light for me on the quiet power introverts have. And yes, introverts can be leaders. And I finally realized that what was flawed was our toxic one-size-fits all idea of leadership.
Once I saw this, I couldn’t unsee it. I stopped being ashamed of these core aspects of my personality. Not only are there others like me, up to half of us are being stifled by cultural biases. It’s serving us worse and worse in this 21st century. The change is coming too fast. We’ll need all of us contributing if we hope to survive challenges like the climate crisis, and technological change.
Some are calling the growing awareness about the topic the Quiet Revolution - but in my opinion, it’s not spreading fast enough. Cain published Quiet in 2013. This information has been around for over 10 years, but it wasn’t reaching me. So I hope to accelerate this coming shift in business culture by supporting the next generation of quiet aspiring leaders - that’s you - to step into their power. It’s what I wish my 30-year-old self could have heard. And my sons (the introverted one, in particular).
Here’s what you can expect from Powerful Introvert.
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This includes:
* Interviews with
* Leading voices on introversion - writers, speakers, psychologists and academics at the forefront of the field
* Leadership experts with practical career advice for aspiring leaders
* Business leaders and industry veterans consciously creating more inclusive work environments
* Finally folks like you and me, sharing their experiences. We’re all learning about this together.
* Foundational topics like
* The history behind the Extrovert Myth
* The Strengths of Introverted Leaders
* Redefining Leadership
* Overcoming Self-Doubt
* More Real-World Examples of Quiet Leaders
* Practical skills favoring introverts
* Leading with empathy
* Handling conflict
* Strategic thinking
* Networking
* Public Speaking
* Overcoming challenges
* Silencing the inner critic - building self-confidence
* Navigating extroverted spaces
* Speaking up and finding your voice
* Managing burnout & protecting your energy
* Building trust as a leader
* Expanding the conversation - challenging business as a whole
* Inclusive leadership - making spaces for quiet voices
* Redefining leadership structures
* Remaking the workplace
* Norms for remote work
I hope this sounds intriguing.
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