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⬥GUESTS⬥

Frida Torkelsen, PhD | AI Solution Architect at Newcode.ai | On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/frida-h-torkelsen/

Maged Helmy, PhD | Assoc. Professor - AI at University of South-Eastern Norway and Founder & CEO of Newcode.ai | On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/magedhelmy/

⬥HOST⬥

Host: Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast | On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/imsmartin/ | Website: https://www.seanmartin.com

⬥EPISODE NOTES⬥

Agentic AI is rapidly moving from theoretical promise to practical implementation, and few sectors are feeling this shift as acutely as the legal industry. In this episode of Redefining CyberSecurity, Sean Martin is joined by Frida Torkelsen, a Solution Architect, and Maged Helmy, a professor of AI, to explore how law firms and in-house counsel are applying AI agents to reduce costs, improve efficiency, and unlock strategic capabilities—while navigating critical privacy and security concerns.

Frida explains how large firms are seeking to extract value from their troves of historical legal data through bespoke AI agents designed to automate workflows and improve institutional knowledge sharing. Smaller firms, on the other hand, benefit by building narrow, purpose-driven agents that automate core functions and give them a tactical edge. This democratization of capability—fueled by faster iteration and reduced development cost—could be a strategic win for niche firms that are disciplined in their focus.

Maged emphasizes the architectural shift AI agents introduce. Unlike static queries to large language models with fixed knowledge, agents access tools, data, and live systems to execute tasks dynamically. This expands the use case potential—but also the risk. Because agentic systems operate probabilistically, consistent outputs aren’t guaranteed, and testing becomes more about evaluating outcomes across a range of inputs than expecting deterministic results.

Security risk looms large. Maged shares how a single oversight in permissions allowed an agent to make system-wide changes that corrupted his environment. Frida cautions against over-permissive access, noting that agents tapping into shared calendars or HR databases must respect internal boundaries and compliance obligations. Both guests agree that human-in-the-loop validation is essential, especially in environments with strict data governance needs.

Law firms must reassess both internal information architecture and team readiness before implementing agentic systems. Start with a clear understanding of the business problem, validate access scopes, and track outcomes for accuracy, speed, and cost. Legal tech teams are forming around these efforts, but success will depend on whether these roles stay grounded in solving specific legal problems—not chasing the latest AI trend.

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During the upcoming OWASP Global AppSec EU in Barcelona, Kate Labunets, a cybersecurity researcher focused on human factors and usable security, takes the stage to confront a disconnect that too often holds the industry back: the gap between academic research and real-world cybersecurity practice.

In her keynote, “Outside the Ivory Tower: Connecting Practice and Science,” Kate invites practitioners to reconsider their relationship with academic research—not as something removed from their daily reality, but as a vital tool that can lead to better decisions, more targeted security programs, and improved organizational resilience.

Drawing from her current research, Kate shares how interviews and surveys with employees reveal the hidden motivations behind the use of shadow IT—tools and technologies adopted without formal approval. These aren’t simply acts of rebellion or ignorance. They reflect misalignments between human behavior, workplace needs, and policy communication. By understanding these mindsets, organizations can move beyond one-size-fits-all training and begin designing interventions grounded in evidence.

This is where science meets practice. Kate’s work isn’t about generating abstract theories. It’s about applying research methods—like anonymous interviews and behavior-focused surveys—to surface insights that security leaders can act on. But for this to happen, researchers need access, and that depends on building trust with practitioners.

The keynote also raises a critical point about time. In industries like medicine, the gap between a published discovery and its application in the real world can be 15 years. Kate argues that cybersecurity faces a similar delay, citing the example of multi-factor authentication: patented in 1998, but still not universally adopted today. Her goal is to accelerate this timeline by helping practitioners see themselves as contributors to science—not just consumers of its outcomes.

By inviting companies to participate in research and engage with universities, Kate’s message is clear: collaboration benefits everyone. The path to smarter, more human-aligned cybersecurity isn’t gated behind academic walls. It’s open to any team curious enough to ask better questions—and brave enough to challenge assumptions.

GUEST: Kate Labunets | Assistant Professor (UD1) in Cyber Security at Utrecht University | https://www.linkedin.com/in/klabunets/

HOSTS:
Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast [@RedefiningCyber] | On ITSPmagazine:  https://www.itspmagazine.com/sean-martin

Marco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining Society Podcast & Audio Signals Podcast | On ITSPmagazine: https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/marco-ciappelli

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RESOURCES

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As InfoSecurity Europe prepares to welcome cybersecurity professionals from across the globe, Rob Allen, Chief Product Officer at ThreatLocker, shares why this moment—and this location—matters. Allen doesn’t frame the conversation around hype or headlines. Instead, he focuses on a universal truth: organizations want to sleep better at night knowing their environments are secure.

ThreatLocker’s mission is grounded in achieving Zero Trust in a simple, operationally feasible way. But more than that, Allen emphasizes their value as enablers of peace of mind. Whether helping customers prevent ransomware attacks or meet regional regulatory requirements like GDPR or Australia’s Essential Eight, the company is working toward real-world solutions that reduce complexity without sacrificing security. Their presence at events like InfoSecurity Europe is key—not just for outreach, but to hear directly from customers and partners about what’s working and where they need help.

Why Being There Matters

Different regions have different pressures. In Australia, adoption surged without any local team initially on the ground—driven purely by alignment with the Essential Eight framework. In the UK, it’s conversations about Cyber Essentials that shape booth discussions. Regulations aren’t just compliance checklists; they’re also conversation starters that change how organizations prioritize security.

The ThreatLocker team doesn’t rely on generic demos or vague promises. They bring targeted examples to the booth—like asking attendees if they know what software can be run on their machines without alerting anyone. If tools like remote desktop applications or archive utilities can be freely executed, attackers can use them too. This is where ThreatLocker steps in: controlling what runs, identifying what’s necessary, and blocking what isn’t.

Booth D90 and Beyond

Rob Allen invites anyone—whether they’re new to ThreatLocker or longtime users—to visit booth D90. The team, built with a mix of technical skill and humor (ask about the “second-best beard” in the company), is there to listen and help. It’s not just about showcasing technology; it’s about building relationships and reinforcing a shared goal: practical, proactive cybersecurity that makes a measurable difference.

If you’re at InfoSecurity Europe, stop by. If you’re not, this episode offers a meaningful glimpse into why showing up—both physically and philosophically—matters in cybersecurity.

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Rob Allen, Chief Product Officer, ThreatLocker | https://www.linkedin.com/in/threatlockerrob/

Resources

Learn more and catch more stories from ThreatLocker: https://www.itspmagazine.com/directory/threatlocker

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In this episode of our InfoSecurity Europe 2024 On Location coverage, Marco Ciappelli and Sean Martin sit down with Professor Peter Garraghan, Chair in Computer Science at Lancaster University and co-founder of the AI security startup Mindgard. Peter shares a grounded view of the current AI moment—one where attention-grabbing capabilities often distract from fundamental truths about software security.

At the heart of the discussion is the question: Can my AI be hacked? Peter’s answer is a firm “yes”—but not for the reasons most might expect. He explains that AI is still software, and the risks it introduces are extensions of those we’ve seen for decades. The real difference lies not in the nature of the threats, but in how these new interfaces behave and how we, as humans, interact with them. Natural language interfaces, in particular, make it easier to introduce confusion and harder to contain behaviors, especially when people overestimate the intelligence of the systems.

Peter highlights that prompt injection, model poisoning, and opaque logic flows are not entirely new challenges. They mirror known classes of vulnerabilities like SQL injection or insecure APIs—only now they come wrapped in the hype of generative AI. He encourages teams to reframe the conversation: replace the word “AI” with “software” and see how the risk profile becomes more recognizable and manageable.

A key takeaway is that the issue isn’t just technical. Many organizations are integrating AI capabilities without understanding what they’re introducing. As Peter puts it, “You’re plugging in software filled with features you don’t need, which makes your risk modeling much harder.” Guardrails are often mistaken for full protections, and foundational practices in application development and threat modeling are being sidelined by excitement and speed to market.

Peter’s upcoming session at InfoSecurity Europe—Can My AI Be Hacked?—aims to bring this discussion to life with real-world attack examples, systems-level analysis, and a practical call to action: retool, retrain, and reframe your approach to AI security. Whether you’re in development, operations, or governance, this session promises perspective that cuts through the noise and anchors your strategy in reality.

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Guest: Peter Garraghan, Professor in Computer Science at Lancaster University, Fellow of the UK Engineering Physical Sciences and Research Council (EPSRC), and CEO & CTO of Mindgard | https://www.linkedin.com/in/pgarraghan/ 

Hosts:
Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine | Website: https://www.seanmartin.com

Marco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine | Website: https://www.marcociappelli.com

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Resources

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KEYWORDS

sean martin, marco ciappelli, peter garraghan, ai, cybersecurity, software, risk, threat, prompt, injection, infosecurity europe, event coverage, on location, conference

As Infosecurity Europe prepares to mark its 30th anniversary, Portfolio Director Saima Poorghobad shares how the event continues to evolve to meet the needs of cybersecurity professionals across industries, sectors, and career stages. What began in 1996 as a niche IT gathering has grown into a strategic hub for over 14,000 visitors, offering much more than just vendor booths and keynotes. Saima outlines how the event has become a dynamic space for learning, collaboration, and strategic alignment—balancing deep technical insight with the broader social, political, and technological shifts impacting the cybersecurity community.

The Power of the Crowd: Community, Policy, and Lifelong Learning

This year’s programming reflects the diverse needs of the cybersecurity community. Attendees range from early-career practitioners to seasoned decision-makers, with representation growing from academia and public policy. The UK government will participate in sessions designed to engage with the community and gather feedback to inform future regulation—a sign of how the show has expanded beyond its commercial roots. Universities are also getting special attention, with new student guides and tailored experiences to help emerging professionals find their place in the ecosystem.

Tackling Today’s and Tomorrow’s Threats—From Quantum to Geopolitics

Infosecurity Europe 2024 is not shying away from bold topics. Professor Brian Cox will open the event by exploring the intersection of quantum science and cybersecurity, setting the tone for a future-facing agenda. Immediately following, BBC’s Joe Tidy will moderate a session on how organizations can prepare for the cryptographic disruption quantum computing could bring. Rory Stewart will bring a geopolitical lens to the conversation, examining how shifting alliances, global trade tensions, and international conflicts are reshaping the threat landscape and influencing cybersecurity priorities across regions.

Maximizing the Experience: Prep, Participate, and Party

From hands-on tech demos to peer-led table talks and new formats like the AI and Cloud Security Theater, the show is designed to be navigable—even for first-time attendees. Saima emphasizes preparation, networking, and follow-up as keys to success, with a new content download feature helping attendees retain insights post-event. The celebration culminates with a 90s-themed 30th anniversary party and a strong sense of pride in what this event has helped the community build—and protect—over three decades.

The message is clear: cybersecurity is no longer just a technical field—it’s a societal one.

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Guest: Saima Poorghobad, Portfolio Director at Reed Exhibitions | https://www.linkedin.com/in/saima-poorghobad-6a37791b/ 

Hosts:
Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine | Website: https://www.seanmartin.com

Marco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine | Website: https://www.marcociappelli.com

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KEYWORDS

sean martin, marco ciappelli, saima poorghobad, infosecurity europe, cybersecurity, quantum, ai, policy, community, innovation, event coverage, on location, conference

At RSAC Conference 2025, the conversation with Rob Allen, Chief Product Officer at ThreatLocker, centered on something deceptively simple: making cybersecurity effective by making it manageable.

During this on-location recap episode, Rob shares how ThreatLocker cut through the noise of flashy booths and AI buzzwords by focusing on meaningful, face-to-face conversations with customers and prospects. Their booth was an open, no-frills space—designed for real dialogue, not distractions. What caught people’s attention, though, wasn’t the booth layout—it was a live demonstration of a PowerShell-based attack using a rubber ducky device. It visually captured how traditional tools often miss malicious scripts and how ThreatLocker’s controls shut it down immediately. That kind of simplicity, Rob explains, is the real differentiator.

Zero Trust Is a Journey—But It Doesn’t Have to Be Complicated

One key message Rob emphasizes is that true security doesn’t come from piling on more tools. Too many organizations rely on overlapping detection and response solutions, which leads to confusion and technical debt. “If you have five different jackets and they’re all winter coats, you’re not prepared for summer,” Sean Martin jokes, reinforcing Rob’s point that layers should be distinct, not redundant.

ThreatLocker’s approach simplifies Zero Trust by focusing on proactive control—limiting what can execute or communicate in the first place. Rob also points to the importance of vendor consolidation—not just from a purchasing standpoint but from an operational one. With ThreatLocker, multiple security capabilities are built natively into a single platform with one agent and one portal, avoiding the chaos of disjointed systems.

From Technical Wins to Human Connections

The conversation wraps with a reminder that cybersecurity isn’t just about tools—it’s about the people and community that make the work worthwhile. Rob, Marco Ciappelli, and Sean Martin reflect on their shared experiences around the event and even the lessons learned over a slice of Detroit-style pizza. While the crust may have been debatable, the camaraderie and commitment to doing security better were not.

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Guest: 

Rob Allen, Chief Product Officer, ThreatLocker | https://www.linkedin.com/in/threatlockerrob/

Resources

Learn more and catch more stories from ThreatLocker: https://www.itspmagazine.com/directory/threatlocker

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Keywords:

sean martin, marco ciappelli, rob allen, cybersecurity, zero trust, threat prevention, powerShell, vendor consolidation, rsac2025, endpoint security, brand story, brand marketing, marketing podcast, brand story podcast

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At RSAC 2025, the most urgent signals weren’t necessarily the loudest. As ISACA board member and cybersecurity veteran Rob Clyde joins Sean Martin and Marco Ciappelli for a post-conference recap, it’s clear that conversations about the future of the profession—and its people—mattered just as much as discussions on AI and cryptography.

More Than a Job: Why Community Matters

Rob Clyde shares his long-standing involvement with ISACA and reflects on the powerful role that professional associations play in cybersecurity careers. It’s not just about certifications—though Clyde notes that employers often value them more than degrees—it’s also about community, mentorship, and mutual support. When asked how many people landed a job because of someone in their local ISACA chapter, half the room raised their hands. That kind of connection is difficult to overstate.

Clyde urges cybersecurity professionals to look beyond their company roles and invest in something that gives back—whether through volunteering, speaking, or simply showing up. “It’s your career,” he says. “Take back control.”

Facing Burnout and Legal Risk Head-On

The group also addresses a growing issue: burnout. ISACA’s latest research shows 66% of cybersecurity professionals are feeling more burned out than last year. For CISOs in particular, that pressure is compounded by personal liability—as in the case of former SolarWinds CISO Tim Brown being sued by the SEC. Clyde warns that such actions have a chilling effect, discouraging internal risk discussions and openness.

To counteract that, he emphasizes the need for continuous learning and peer support as a defense, not only against burnout, but also isolation and fear.

The Silent Threat of Quantum

While AI dominated RSAC’s headlines, Clyde raises a quieter but equally pressing concern: quantum computing. ISACA chose to focus its latest poll on this topic, revealing a significant gap between awareness and action. Despite widespread recognition that a breakthrough could “break the internet,” only 5% of respondents are taking proactive steps. Clyde sees this as a wake-up call. “The algorithms exist. Q Day is coming. We just don’t know when.”

From mental health to quantum readiness, this conversation makes it clear: cybersecurity isn’t just a technology issue—it’s a people issue. Listen to the full episode to hear what else we’re missing.

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Guest: 

Rob Clyde, Board Director, Chair, Past Chair of the Board Directors at ISACA | https://www.linkedin.com/in/robclyde/

Resources

Learn more and catch more stories from ISACA: https://www.itspmagazine.com/directory/isaca

Stay tuned for an upcoming ITSPmagazine Webinar with ISACA: https://www.itspmagazine.com/webinars

ISACA Quantum Pulse Poll 2025 and related resources: https://www.isaca.org/quantum-pulse-poll

ISACA State of Cybersecurity 2024 survey report: https://www.isaca.org/resources/reports/state-of-cybersecurity-2024

Learn more and catch more stories from RSA Conference 2025 coverage: https://www.itspmagazine.com/rsac25

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Keywords:

sean martin, marco ciappelli, rob clyde, rsac2025, burnout, quantum, cryptography, certification, isaca, cybersecurity, brand story, brand marketing, marketing podcast, brand story podcast

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In this post-RSAC 2025 Brand Story, Marco Ciappelli catches up with Steve Schlarman, Senior Director of Product Management at Archer, to discuss the evolving intersection of GRC, AI, and business value. From regulatory overload to AI-enhanced policy generation, this conversation explores how meaningful innovation—grounded in real customer needs—is shaping the future of risk and compliance.

Not All AI Is Created Equal: The Archer Approach

RSAC 2025 was buzzing with innovation, but for Steve Schlarman and the Archer team, it wasn’t about showing off shiny new toys—it was about proving that AI, when used with purpose and context, can truly enhance the risk and compliance function.

Steve, Senior Director of Product Management at Archer, breaks down how Archer Evolve and the recent integration of Compliance.ai are helping organizations address regulatory change in a more holistic, automated, and scalable way. With silos still slowing down many companies, the need for tools that actually do something is more urgent than ever.

From Policy Generation to Risk Narratives

One of the most practical applications discussed? Using AI not just to detect risk, but to help write better risk statements, control documentation, and even policy language that actually communicates clearly. Steve explains how Archer is focused on closing the loop between data and business impact—translating technical risk outputs into narratives the business can actually act on.

AI with a Human Touch

As Marco notes, AI in cybersecurity has moved from hype to hesitation to strategy. Steve is candid: some customers are still on the fence. But when AI is delivered in a contextual way, backed by customer-driven innovation, it becomes a bridge—not a wedge—between people and process. The key is not AI for the sake of AI, but for solving real, grounded problems.

What’s Next in Risk? Better Conversations

Looking ahead, Schlarman sees a shift from “no, we can’t” to “yes, and here’s how.” With a better grasp on loss exposure and control costs, the business conversation is changing. AI-powered storytelling and smart interfaces might just help risk teams have their most effective conversations yet.

From regulatory change to real-time translation of risk data, this is where tech meets trust.

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Guest: 

Steve Schlarman, Senior Director, Product Management, Archert | https://www.linkedin.com/in/steveschlarman/

Resources

Learn more and catch more stories from Archer: https://www.itspmagazine.com/directory/archer

Learn more and catch more stories from RSA Conference 2025 coverage: https://www.itspmagazine.com/rsac25

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Keywords:

steve schlarman, marco ciappelli, rsac2025, archer evolve, compliance.ai, regulatory change, grc, risk management, ai storytelling, cybersecurity, compliance, brand story, rsa conference, cybersecurity strategy, risk communication, ai in compliance, automation, contextual ai, integrated risk management, business risk narrative, itspmagazine

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Guest: Jeremy Lasman

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Show Notes Blog:

In this thought-provoking episode of Redefining Society & Technology, I sit down with Jeremy Lasman to question the most overlooked gadget in the human-tech equation: our own mind. We ask — if we keep updating our devices, why don’t we update the inner operating system that powers our thoughts, creativity, and connection to the world?

Jeremy, a former SpaceX technologist turned philosopher-inventor, shares his journey from corporate IT to what he calls his “soul’s work”: challenging the legacy software running our lives — fear-based, outdated models of thinking — with something he calls “Imagination Technology.” It’s not metaphorical. It’s a real framework. And yes, it sounds wild — but it also makes a lot of sense.

We touch on everything from open-source thinking to quantum consciousness, from the speed of technological evolution to the bottlenecks of our cultural structures like education and societal expectations. At the center is a call to action: we need to stop treating passion as a luxury and instead recognize it as the fuel for personal and collective evolution.

Together, we reflect on how society tends to silo disciplines, discourage curiosity, and cling to binary thinking in a world that demands fluidity. Jeremy argues that redefining society begins with redefining the self — tearing down internal walls, embracing timelessness, and running life not on fear, but on imagination.

Is this transhumanism? Is it spiritual philosophy dressed up in tech language? Maybe. But it’s also deeply human — and urgent. Because in a world where AI and tech evolve by the day, we can’t afford to be running on emotional floppy disks.

So here’s the challenge: what if the next big upgrade isn’t an app, a device, or even a new piece of hardware — but a reprogramming of how we see ourselves?

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The Out of Tune Instruments

On the bank of a stream, where a great many colorful little fish swam, lived a small family: mamma, babbo, and their seven children — four boys and three girls. Their house was a bit far from the town of Strumentopoli, but being close to the stream and next to the Great Forest made it a wonderful place to live.

Mamma lovingly tended the vegetable garden. Babbo, on the other hand, was a woodworker who crafted musical instruments from the finest trunks, chosen among the sturdiest and most fragrant trees in the forest.

The children went to school in the village. In winter, they reached it on skis, while in spring and autumn they rode in a cart pulled by two young deer — one white and one black, like the keys of a piano.

Before they left, babbo counted them one by one to make sure no one was missing. Then, as he did every day, he reminded them:

“Behave yourselves, don’t skip school, and remember the tale of Pinocchio and his nose!”
Those words always ended with a smile from everyone.

Babbo would then return to his workshop. His instruments were well-made, using excellent materials, but there was one problem: they were out of tune. Still, as a good luthier, he didn’t lose heart. His passion for music was so strong that teaching his children to play had become a joy. He even gave them special names: Chitarra, Violino, Oboe, Liuto, Arpa, Bongo, and Ukulele.

Mamma didn't object. Of course, naming them after vegetables might have been funny, but their village friends probably would’ve made fun of them.

The children did well in school, and when they came home, they helped mamma in the garden. One day, though, they mistook some nettle plants for lettuce — what a sting! They all ran straight to the stream and jumped in to soothe the burning.

The little fish burst into laughter:
“You’re so silly! Ah ah ah!”

Mamma helped them out of the water and, turning to the fish, said:
“This evening, at sunset, there will be a concert in our courtyard. My children will perform with their instruments. You’re all invited!”

The fish replied enthusiastically:
“Thanks for the invitation! We’ll be there for sure — it’s going to rain, and we love splashing! Splich, sploch, splach!”

That evening turned out to be a real party. At the concert of slightly strange and delightfully quirky music, everyone had a blast: the musicians, the animals from the forest, and even the fish — who mamma cheerfully sprayed with water.

After that joyful evening, life went back to its usual pace: school, garden, and even the forest. In fact, during their free time, the children often helped babbo choose and cut wood to build his instruments.

The Great Forest had become familiar to them. So one day, while they were playing there and climbing trees, the kids spotted a group of gnomes huddled together, looking agitated. They quickly hid behind some bushes to observe and listen in on their conversation.

The meeting, called in great haste, was to make a decision about an imminent danger. A powerful storm was on the way. They spoke of a hurricane wind that hadn’t been seen or heard in a hundred years — or perhaps even longer — and it was heading for the forest.

“We must stop it, by any means,” said the gnomes.

So they decided to call on an old ally: the Great Warrior of the Mountain, armed with a sword and magical powers. He was the one who, in the past, had already defeated dragons and even extraterrestrials who had tried to conquer Earth.

The seven children, alarmed by the news and determined to help in the battle, ran quickly back to the house — also to warn the villagers of the impending danger. Meanwhile, the wind drew closer. You could hear it from afar — wild and howling. As it passed, the trees bent until their tops brushed the ground. Some swayed, others snapped, and a few were completely uprooted.

The people of Strumentopoli, who had begun to feel the wind blowing through the village streets and saw the Great Warrior descending the mountain, grew concerned — but they didn’t panic. Everyone grabbed their instruments and rushed toward the house by the stream to help the family who lived there, and together try to save the Great Forest.

At the same time, the colorful fish arrived — united and determined — along with the other animals of the woods and stream.

“All together we can form a barrier and block the wind!” they shouted in unison.

At that moment, the children of the family — still out of breath from running — stepped forward and said:
“We have our babbo’s instruments too. They’re strange, a bit out of tune… but if we all play together, maybe we can stop the storm.” And with that, they rushed into the house and came back out in no time at all.

The gnomes, fully aware of the instruments’ flaws, cast a powerful musical spell. When the children began to play, something magical happened. For the first time, the music was melodious, harmonious, and full of feeling.One by one, all the people of Strumentopoli joined in. Each person, with their own instrument, contributed as if they were all part of one great orchestra.

The hurricane wind — engaged in a fierce battle with the Great Warrior of the Mountain — heard the music from afar and immediately began to calm. Its howling softened, and by the time it reached the forest, it had become a cool mountain gust, and finally… a gentle valley breeze.

The wind had become part of that marvelous orchestra — the battle was won thanks to everyone. Each had offered their own music and helped bring about the victory.

“United we are strong,” they all said proudly.

The babbo luthier continued building instruments with the finest wood the forest had to offer. They were so beautiful and sounded so good that people said they were the most melodic ever heard.

The children — Chitarra, Violino, Oboe, Liuto, Arpa, Bongo, and Ukulele — joined the village band. At every festival, they played with great success, cheered on by applause and warm smiles. Even the gnomes and the Great Warrior listened to their music… from the forest and the mountain.

The colorful fish swam and danced happily in the stream, and when someone passed by, they greeted them with joyful splashes.

The family continued to live near the Great Forest, and on summer evenings, when everything finally grew quiet, they would lie along the stream and watch the stars above. Their hearts would tell stories… and the night would write the happy ending of every tale.