The Jeremy Boreing Show

Lucas Gage is a Marine veteran who spent 14 years as one of the most prominent voices in what he calls the "JQ movement" — the “Jewish Question” — the online community built around antisemitism. He appeared on David Duke's program. He built a following of hundreds of thousands. He helped create the conspiracy-minded, anti-Israel wing of what is now called the dissident right.

Now he’s walking away publicly at what he says is a high personal cost.

In this conversation, Lucas and Jeremy trace how it started — 9/11, the WMD lie, Alex Jones, David Icke, and the pipeline from conspiracy theory to organized antisemitism. They talk about the specific moments that broke the spell: a crypto scam by a fellow traveler, a defamation by another, and Charlie Kirk assassination theories so unhinged they produced radicalization fatigue even in Lucas.

We discuss audience capture, the economics of outrage, and how the same algorithms that empowered the dissident right are now actively making it more extreme and less coherent.

They don't agree on everything. They argue about Gaza. They argue about Iraq. They push back where they disagree. But this is one of the most unusual conversations Jeremy has had on this show — and one of the most important.

There are thousands of young men exactly like Lucas, disillusioned and looking for meaning and truth in all the wrong places. Lucas hopes that by publicly correcting himself, he can help other men do the same. 

Lucas's message to his former audience: Fact-check the people you trust. It's okay to be wrong. Let it go.

0:00 Introduction

0:01 "Low IQ" vs. "High IQ" Anti-Semitism

2:51 The Three Things That Broke the Spell

6:19 What Is the JQ Movement?

7:18 The Charlie Kirk Assassination Theories

9:52 Origin Story: 9/11, WMDs, and the Conspiracy Pipeline

13:06 White Nationalism, Name Changes, and the Trump Train

16:19 "We've Seen This Before" — Is This Transformation Real?

50:14 The Table Analogy: Knowing Everything and Missing the Obvious

54:00 Trauma, Victimhood, and the Psychology of Radicalization

1:21:47 Was Iraq a Lie?

1:27:43 The Economics of Rage: How Money Ruined the Movement

1:48:31 Gaza: Where Jeremy and Lucas Disagree

2:00:36 Are Jews a Monolith?

2:21:22 What Lucas Wants to Be Remembered Fo

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American greatness has enemies. Some are foreign — a nuclear deal struck in secret, terms the public hasn’t seen, a 60-day window before we find out whether the framework holds. Some are civilizational — a 219-page parliamentary inquiry confirming that at least 250,000 girls were systematically raped across the UK while institutions looked away, paralyzed by fear of being called racist. And some are internal — a fractured Right that can’t agree on what it’s trying to conserve, or whether it’s worth conserving at all. This week, we watched as thousands of foreign visitors attended the World Cup in America and were dazzled by our beautiful country. It was a wholesome reminder of what we’re fighting for, and what we lose if the enemies of the West win. 

Tonight, Jeremy Boreing is joined by Katie Pavlich, Karol Markowicz, and Bethany Mandel to name the threats, connect the threads, and ask the question that runs underneath all of it: what does it actually take to protect and preserve what makes America worth defending?

Jeremy gets into:

The Iran MOU — what’s in it, what’s contradicted, what Israel wasn’t told, and why the Senate’s silence matters

The UK rape gang inquiry: 219 pages, at least 149 local authority districts, and institutions that chose self-protection over the safety of children

The thread connecting both stories — and why Jeremy names it directly

What the World Cup is revealing: millions of Europeans discovering America for the first time and loving what they find

The broader question: what does it take for the American Right to preserve and advance what’s worth preserving — in its current fractured state?

Katie Pavlich hosts Katie Pavlich Tonight on NewsNation and is the author of the New York Times bestseller Fast and Furious. Karol Markowicz is a columnist for the New York Post and co-host of the Karol Markowicz Show. Bethany Mandel is a conservative columnist and homeschooling mother of six. Together, Karol and Bethany are the co-authors of Stolen Youth, a national bestseller published by The Daily Wire.

00:00 Introduction

00:51 UK Rape Gang Report: 250,000 Victims

04:50 Iran Deal: Snatching Defeat From Victory?

09:14 Iran, Drones, and America's Military Readiness

13:22 Can Israel Even Agree to This Deal?

17:37 JD Vance, 2028, and the Soul of MAGA

27:37 Charlie Kirk's Betrayal and the Big Tent Problem

35:11 What MAGA Actually Stands For

41:23 Tucker vs. Shapiro: The Real Disagreement Is America

47:17 The Woke Right, Catholicism, and Ends Justify the Means

57:22 Could UK Rape Gangs Happen in America?

1:02:59 Expert Culture, Therapy, and Anti-American Thinking

1:09:17 Birth Rates, Bad Ideas, and the Anti-Natalist Lie

1:23:13 Therapy Culture Is Anti-God and Anti-American

1:32:38 Europeans Discover Real America at the World Cup

1:38:08 Trad Larping, Gen Z, and Finding the Real Future

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The peer review system that governs scientific publishing was built to be an immune system — a self-correcting mechanism to keep bad science from becoming policy. It isn't working. In fields captured by ideology, particularly gender medicine, the correction mechanism has been reversed: papers that confirm the approved narrative sail through, while letters to the editor challenging them are ghosted, buried in endless limbo, or sent back to the same reviewers who approved the original paper. Dissent doesn't get published. It disappears. And in the absence of peer-reviewed counter-evidence, judges, policymakers, and medical boards treat the silence as consensus.

Colin Wright has been fighting this for eight years. He left academic biology rather than write DEI statements affirming things he knew to be false. He was canceled at peak cancel culture for publishing — in Quillette and the Wall Street Journal — a simple biological claim: there are exactly two sexes. He watched papers that would have been laughed out of any rigorous review process get cited by the American Academy of Pediatrics, referenced in federal court cases, and used to justify irreversible medical procedures on minors. And rather than opt out of the system or fight it from the outside, he built something new inside it.

Colin and Theory and Society editor-in-chief Kevin McCaffrey announced a first-of-its-kind post-publication peer review system through Springer Nature — a $1.8 billion academic institution. The system lets anyone submit a formal peer review of any published paper, routes it through an editorial process that evaluates argument quality rather than ideological alignment, and includes a built-in right of reply. If the original authors respond within a month, both pieces publish simultaneously. If they don't, the criticism publishes anyway. The veto that has been silencing dissent is gone.

Jeremy gets into:

- How peer review works when it works — and the specific ways ideological capture has broken it in gender medicine and related fields

- The pipeline from flawed academic paper to AMA guidelines to federal court precedent — and why the absence of published counter-evidence is used as evidence of consensus

- The multivariate animal sex paper, the brine shrimp wedding, and other examples of ideologically captured research that passed peer review and are now being cited in policy

- How Theory and Society's post-publication peer review system works, what makes it structurally different from existing letter-to-the-editor processes, and why the right-of-reply guarantee changes everything

- Colin's one policy recommendation: tie federal research funding to journals that don't require positionality statements or ideological terminology — and why that alone could restructure the incentive system

- Colin's personal biography: flunking out of community college, losing his academic career at peak cancel culture, moving back in with his parents to become a fitness influencer — and the series of setbacks that led to the most consequential work of his career

- Why the X comparison holds: just as one free speech platform changed the speech policies of every other platform, one journal willing to publish dissent may be enough to force the rest of the system to reform

Also referenced: Christina Buttons, James Lindsay, Gordon Guyatt, James Nuzzo, Claire Lehman (Quillette), Kevin McCaffrey (Theory and Society).

00:00 Introduction

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Congress just handed a conspiracy theory a credential it will never lose.

00:00 Introduction – USS Liberty, Thomas Massey & the Dissident Right

02:16 Carmelo Anthony Verdict & the Left-Right Convergence

03:49 Jeremy's Story: Leaving The Daily Wire & Starting Over

06:41 Why Jeremy Launched This Show

08:01 The Conservative Movement in Crisis

09:15 Meet the Team: John Lewis, Joel Berry & Alyssa Cordova

17:03 What Makes the Daily Wire Different: A Culture of Winning

23:49 Mission Over Role: Rightly Ordering Your Priorities

28:29 Work as Worship: The Protestant Work Ethic & Calling

36:28 Parasocial Relationships – Good, Bad & the President Parallel

47:22 Every Job Has a Mission – Plumbers, Tombstone Sellers & Sandwich Makers

01:02:57 AI, Filmmaking & the Future of Media

01:09:46 Breaking Down the Team's Daily Reality

01:22:31 Audience Q&A: Where Does the Political Chaos End?

01:37:52 Audience Q&A: Husband, Wife & Competing Callings

02:02:57 Audience Q&A: Thoughts on AI Filmmaking

02:18:36 Audience Q&A: What Matters Most in Friendship

02:37:01 The Bent Key – Debunking a Fan Conspiracy Theory

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Today marks the fifty-ninth anniversary of the attack on the USS Liberty.  Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens, Thomas Massie and their ilk have been pushing a conspiracy theory about what happened on June 8th, 1967 — and they’re lying to you about what really happened. 

This is Jeremy's definitive debunking of the USS Liberty conspiracy theory: what the evidence actually shows, why the false flag narrative doesn't survive scrutiny, and why the dissident Right is pushing lies about the tragic deaths of 34 American sailors.

On June 8th, 1967, Israeli forces attacked the USS Liberty, a U.S. Navy intelligence ship operating in the eastern Mediterranean near the Sinai coast. Thirty-four Americans were killed. One hundred and seventy-one were wounded. Every official investigation that followed — the Navy Court of Inquiry, CIA analysis, the NSA's declassified intercepts, the Clark Clifford report, the Joint Chiefs review, and multiple congressional investigations — reached the same conclusion: the attack was a tragic case of mistaken identity. Friendly fire in the fog of war. That verdict has never been overturned. The USS Liberty conspiracy theory exists not because the evidence supports it, but because the evidence has been systematically misrepresented by people with an agenda.

Jeremy gets into: the eight specific claims made by USS Liberty conspiracy theorists and why none of them hold up — the American flag argument, the NSA tapes, the "unmistakable ship" claim, the life raft machine-gunning allegation, the rescue plane recall, the Ward Boston affidavit, the 2003 Moorer Commission, and the cover-up theory; the Gish Gallop — the debate tactic of substituting volume of weak claims for the strength of any single argument, and how it drives every USS Liberty conspiracy conversation; the strategic context of June 1967 — Egypt, Syria, and Jordan massed on Israel's borders with the stated aim of annihilation, Soviet client states throughout the Arab world, and Lyndon Johnson's overriding fear of a great power confrontation with the USSR; how the USS Liberty came to be in the eastern Mediterranean and why it never received Navy orders to withdraw from the combat zone; Dr. Marvin Nowicki, the NSA's chief Hebrew linguist aboard an EC-121 spy plane recording Israeli communications in real time, and what the declassified NSA intercepts actually show; USS Liberty captain William McGonagle — Congressional Medal of Honor recipient — and his sworn contemporaneous testimony versus the survivor narratives that evolved over decades; Lloyd Painter's contradictory accounts and what the science of trauma memory tells us about eyewitness testimony from combat survivors; Admiral Thomas Moorer and the 2003 "Independent Commission of Inquiry" — no subpoena power, no access to classified material, funded by the USS Liberty Veterans Association, and why a private citizen's opinion is not the same as an official finding; the motive problem — why neither the "false flag to drag America into war" theory nor the "silence the NSA" theory survives contact with the actual strategic situation of June 1967; Iran's documented exploitation of the USS Liberty anniversary, including a coordinated campaign of over 2,000 Iranian accounts pushing antisemitic narratives at American audiences, documented by the Atlantic Council's Digital Forensic Research Lab; the Soviet-era origins of anti-Zionist propaganda and how those narratives migrated to Tucker Carlson's program, Candace Owens's platform, and Nick Fuentes; antisemitism as a conspiracy framework and why the USS Liberty has become one of the most respectable vehicles for it on the American right; and what Thomas Massie's planned House floor speech actually represents — and why a sitting congressman using American sailors' deaths to suggest Jewish power overrides American democracy is something the right needs to reckon with.

Also referenced: Admiral Lawrence Geis, Admiral Kidd, Robert McNamara, Phil Turney, Dwight Porter, Russell David, Ward Boston, hull number GTR-5, Operation Cyanide, the State Department Foreign Relations historical volume, the USS Liberty Veterans Association, the Six-Day War, the 1967 Arab-Israeli War, Desert Storm friendly fire, the Battle of Antietam, the Battle of Germantown, Stonewall Jackson, and Pat Tillman.

0:00 The Attack on the USS Liberty

1:12 How a Tragedy Became a Weapon

2:27 What Is a Conspiracy Theory?

3:36 The Strategic Context of June 1967

6:40 How the Attack Actually Happened

8:42 Friendly Fire Is Not Rare

10:29 The 8 Claims — And Why They Fail

24:37 The Motive Problem

27:54 The Survivors Deserve the Truth

33:00 Where This Conspiracy Actually Came From

35:14 Why the Jewish People Are Always the Villain

41:26 What This Is Really About

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The Southern Poverty Law Center calls it a myth. Most American institutions act as if it doesn't exist. But Noah Rothman's case is that the United States is in the middle of its third major wave of left-wing political violence in the last century — and the polling, the assassinations, and the institutional response all tell the story of a society losing the social taboo that has historically held this kind of violence in check.

Jeremy is joined by Noah Rothman — Senior Writer at National Review, columnist, and author of three books, including the brand-new Blood and Progress: A Century of Left-Wing Violence, alongside The Rise of the New Puritans and Unjust: Social Justice and the Unmaking of America. Noah is one of the few Trump-skeptical voices on the right who has continued to keep his eyes locked on the threat from the left even as conservative media has, in some quarters, drifted toward its own conspiracies and grievances.

They get into: the three historical waves of left-wing violence in America — the anarchist and socialist violence of the 1910s and 1920s, the Marxian guerrilla movements of the late 1960s, '70s, and '80s, and the wave we are inside of right now; why the SPLC and most academic databases of "political violence" double-count prison fights and homeless-person epithets to manufacture a top-line that the right is uniquely violent; the rhetorical tactic Noah calls "the pregnant 'but'" — how Bernie Sanders, AOC, Elizabeth Warren, and Chris Murphy all condemned Brian Thompson's murder and then immediately appended a "but" justifying it; the Charlie Kirk assassination and the institutional left's largely respectful response versus the campus and online cheering, the Saturday Night Live applause for the name Luigi Mangione, and the conspiracy ecosystem on the dissident right (Candace Owens, Ian Carroll, and the Epstein-pedophile-class framings) that now exists in symmetry with it; the Network Contagion Research Institute polls showing 50% of self-identified left-of-center Americans say it is at least somewhat justified to murder Elon Musk, and 56% say the same about Donald Trump; the three publicly known attempts on Trump's life and Norah O'Donnell asking the President on CBS to respond to his would-be killer's manifesto; January 6 and the BLM 2020 riots as comparative case studies in mob violence, the blanket pardons issued by both Joe Biden and Donald Trump, and why blanket pardons are never a good idea; Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn — the Weather Underground revolutionaries who killed people, never went to prison, and got tenure at major universities — and Alexander Berkman, Howard Zinn, and the Marxian intellectual lineage that fed them; Helen Andrews's "feminization of society" thesis and whether the rise of female representation in hegemonic left-wing institutions tracks with the rise in intolerance and willingness to censor; the strange evolution by which Marxists became Pan-Arab Baathists became Islamists, the Red-Green Alliance, and Jason Burke's The Revolutionists as the international companion text; the Sarah Milgrom and Yaron Lischinsky shooting in Washington and the textbook Marxian writings of Elias Rodriguez; the Soviet-era "Zionology" academic project that invented most of the anti-Israel narratives that now circulate on college campuses (white settler colonialism, brown-South genocide, rape as a weapon of war); two "cellphone moments" America is failing to reckon with — COVID accountability, foreclosed when Trump became the 2024 nominee, and the Charlie Kirk assassination, foreclosed by the dissident right's choice to build conspiracies instead of confronting left-wing violence; Tucker Carlson, the Catholic integralists, and the rise of "rhetorical statue-toppling" on the right; and Noah's recommendations on what actually works — civic education, law-enforcement modeling, and the patient, unglamorous restoration of the social taboo around political violence.

01:02 Is America Living Through a Wave of Left-Wing Violence? 

02:13 The SPLC Calls It a Myth 

06:17 The Three Waves: Anarchists, Marxian Guerrillas, and Now 

08:27 The Psychology of Political Violence 

10:27 Luigi, Brian Thompson, and the Permission Structure 

13:06 How the Databases Erase Left-Wing Violence 

43:45 What Ended the Last Two Waves 

47:15 Why Wealth and Education Make Us More Vulnerable 

01:14:40 How the Right Is Blowing Its Own Moment on Charlie Kirk 

01:33:47 What Can Actually Be Done

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Two weeks ago, Thomas Massie lost his Kentucky primary. The night he conceded, Marjorie Taylor Greene posted that the Republican Party was "destroyed" and prayed for the “these creatures” — i.e. the boomers and her own party's voters — to be gone so the country could be "saved" by the young. A few weeks ago, Tucker Carlson called the boomers "the most loathsome, mediocre generation this country has ever produced." 

Burn down the old so we can be saved by the young  is the most cynical lie in American politics today, and it's the same lie the left – Oprah Winfrey, Barack Obama, Margaret Mead, and Yuval Harari – has been selling for sixty years. This episode is Jeremy's case for why Gen Z is being sold a Marxist con dressed in right-wing sheep's clothing, and what it would actually look like to save civilization instead of burning it down.

Jeremy gets into: the MTG "these creatures" post and what it really means; the $30 million primary Massie still lost; the blame-the-boomers movement and the numbers that disprove its central claims (Gen Z owns less than 10% of student debt, the homebuying gap is a 6-percentage-point spread not 66, millennial wealth tripled between 2019 and 2023); Tucker Carlson on the right and Jon Stewart on the left running the same Gen Z chase; the two kinds of historical progress — building on what came before versus the perpetual revolution that always ends in mass graves; why the American founders kept English common law and the French revolutionaries burned the calendar and sent 20,000 to the guillotine; Edmund Burke's "monster of monsters" and his partnership of the living, the dead, and the unborn; the Comanche as a case study in what happens to cultures that worship the young (they don't build civilizations); the sixty-year preaching tradition from Margaret Mead's Culture and Commitment through Oprah's "they just have to die" to Evan Sayet, Robert Fulghum, Eric Weinstein, and Yuval Harari telling kids not to rely on the adults; Abigail Schrier's Bad Therapy and the data on what telling Gen Z to ignore their parents has actually produced; the totalitarian playbook for breaking the parent-child bond, from Pavlik Morozov to the Hitler Youth to Mao's Cultural Revolution to Pol Pot's Khmer Rouge; the Fifth Commandment, Dennis Prager and the Apostle Paul on the only commandment that comes with a promise; what conservatism — per Roger Scruton and Russell Kirk — has actually conserved, including the world Gen Z woke up in; the boomers' real failures (no-fault divorce, abortion on demand, the COVID lockdowns) and the world-defining things they also built (Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, Steve Wozniak, Tim Berners-Lee, the internet, the longest peace and prosperity in human history, Vietnam paid in 58,000 sons); the $84 trillion intergenerational wealth transfer coming over the next two decades; why the doom narrative about millennials was wrong and why the same story is being told about Gen Z now; and the closing call: don't be the doom generation, build the future, live long in the land.

Also referenced: King George III, Robespierre, Karl Marx, Friedrich Engels, Vladimir Lenin, Mao Zedong, Pol Pot, Winston Churchill, and Donald Trump.

0:00 The MTG, Tucker, and Massie Moment That Sparked This Episode 

2:10 The Most Cynical Pitch in American Politics 

5:24 Tucker on the Right, Jon Stewart on the Left 

6:41 The Two Kinds of Progress: Building vs. Burning It Down 

10:00 American Founders vs. French Revolutionaries

13:03 The Comanche and What Happens to Cultures That Worship the Young 

15:26 Sixty Years of "Don't Listen to Your Elders" — Mead, Oprah, Obama, Harari 

20:44 The Totalitarian Playbook: Pavlik Morozov, Hitler Youth, Mao, Pol Pot 

22:27 The Only Commandment That Comes With a Promise 

25:15 What Has Conservatism Actually Conserved? The World. 

29:13 The Boomers' Real Failures — and What They Built Despite Them 

35:10 The Millennials Proved the Doom Story Wrong. Gen Z Can Too.

#GenZ #HonorYourFathers #BurnItDown #JeremyBoreing #JBS #TuckerCarlson #MarjorieTaylorGreene #BarackObama #OprahWinfrey #ThomasMassie #Conservatism #Marxism #PerpetualRevolution #FifthCommandment #SaveCivilization

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Evangelicals voted 82-17 for Trump in 2024, made up 27% of the electorate, and provided the decisive single-bloc margin in the national vote — for the third consecutive election. Without them, the Left wins.

00:00 – James Talarico and the Weaponization of Christianity

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The defining illness of new media isn't bias. It's audience capture — and a generation of hosts on both the left and the right have stopped trying to lead an audience and started trying to be picked by one. Bridget Phetasy has watched it happen, written about it, and shed followers for refusing to play along.

Jeremy is joined by Bridget Phetasy — comedian, writer, Spectator columnist, and host of Walk-Ins Welcome and Dumpster Fire. She's one of the few people in this space willing to tell her own audience when they're wrong–and admit to them when’s she’s wrong–and she joins Jeremy for a conversation that ranges from the news of the moment to the deepest questions of how a person stays honest in public life.

They get into: audience capture as the defining illness of new media; Bridget's argument that Jon Stewart sitting with Zohran Mamdani and Tucker Carlson sitting with Nick Fuentes are doing the exact same thing — chasing the in-vogue youth demographic on the left with Hasan Piker-style socialism and on the right with Candace Owens and Thomas Massie-aligned nationalism; the late-night ratings machine that built our chase-the-youth instinct from Letterman, Leno, Conan, Fallon, and Kimmel onward; why Don Henley, the Eagles, and the Beatles all stopped making the zeitgeist when they aged out, and why that's how it's supposed to work; the early COVID skeptics Liz Wheeler, Steve Deace, and Jesse Kelly versus the political class (Donald Trump included) who Jeremy believes should have been disqualified from government over the response; the Hollywood-patron model versus the conservative-media model, with Megyn Kelly as the rare network actually developing talent and Matt Walsh as the case study in what network leverage can do for an already-driven host; the 12-step inventory, the regret piece, motherhood, and the resentment culture; Bridget's faith arc from Sam Harris and the new atheists through Emmet Fox and the Lord's Prayer; and what she wants her daughter to remember her for.

Also referenced: Ben Shapiro, Joe Rogan, Konstantin Kisin, Dallas Sonnier, Andrew Klavan, Alana Newhouse, Allie Beth Stuckey, Ben Sasse, Joel Berry, James Lindsay, Michael Young, Jordan Peterson, Alex Jones, Taylor Lorenz, and Erika Kirk.

1:01 How Audience Capture Is Eating New Media

8:52 The Analytics Trap and Selling Out Your Soul

15:25 "More MAGA Than MAGA" and Algorithmic Dementia

23:14 Networks, Solo Acts, and the Matt Walsh Lesson

34:24 Hollywood, Patrons, and Why Conservative Media Won't Make the Next Roseanne

42:48 Tucker, Jon Stewart, and the Gen Z Trap

52:49 Don Henley and the Burden of Staying Zeitgeisty

59:27 Postmodernism, Nick Fuentes Going Mainstream, and the Plague That Wasn't

1:10:41 Why Hasn’t Anyone Been Punished for COVID?

1:19:17 Sometimes the Trolls Are Right — Regret, Motherhood, and Resentment

1:50:28 Faith, Sobriety, and What Bridget Wants to Be Remembered For

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Thomas Massie posted a poll on X in which over 85% of respondents said Israel is a greater threat to liberty in America than China, Russia, or Iran. Half the right is dismissing it as a bot artifact. The other half is treating it as gospel. Both are wrong — and tonight Jeremy unpacks why with three guests who study this exact machine for a living.

00:00:02 – Thomas Massie's Loss & What It Reveals About Gen Z

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