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This segment of “White Collar Talks with Nina and Joe” features former United States Attorney for the Western District of North Carolina, Dena King.  Guest co-host is Lynsey Barron.

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On the morning of July 19, 2014, Florida State University Law Professor Dan Markel—a friend and mentor to Justin, and to so many others—was shot and killed in his driveway in Tallahassee, Florida.  Dan was 41 years old, and the father of two little boys, ages 4 and 3, one of whom was just days away from his next birthday.  

The loss of Dan to his family, his friends, and colleagues, is incalculable.  Dan’s Mom, Ruth, graciously shared her time to discuss Dan’s tragic death, her transition from grief to advocacy, the remarkable police work leading to the arrests of Dan’s former brother-in-law, and others, and the convictions resulting in life sentences of several coconspirators.  Dan was a wonderful person, a brilliant scholar—ironically, focusing on justice and punishment—and is greatly missed by all who knew and loved him.  We are honored to dedicate this episode of the JustPod in Dan’s memory.

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Larry Pozner is perhaps the most sought-after teacher of cross-examination strategy and tactics.  In over 400 lectures, he has taught generations of lawyers how to more effectively conduct this most important of courtroom examinations—what John Henry Wigmore, the legal scholar of evidence, called the "greatest legal engine ever invented for the discovery of truth."  

Larry’s book, Cross-Examination: Science and Techniques, which he co-authored with Roger Dodd, is America's best-selling book on cross-examination.  

It was a great honor to have the King of Cross join the JustPod for an enlightening discussion 

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We welcomed back Elizabeth Kelley (who previously joined us on Nov 16, 2023), to talk about the recent publication of the second edition of her book, Representing People with Mental Disabilities: A Practical Guide for Criminal Defense Lawyers, published by the American Bar Association.  The book is a collection of 19 essays by lawyers, scholars, and clinical experts in the field of mental health and criminal defense.  Elizabeth Kelley is also the Editor of the volumes Representing People with Dementia, and Representing People With Autism Spectrum Disorder.  Elizabeth Kelley is a criminal defense lawyer with a national practice focusing on representation of people with mental disabilities.

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Ever wondered about the mental health toll on members of a death penalty “Execution Team”?  We discuss this topic and others on the JustPod with two men who are both familiar with the practice of lethal injection, but for very different reasons.   

Ron McAndrew is a retired Warden at Florida State Prison, where he led the Execution Team, supervised the execution of three inmates by electric chair, and observed the execution of others by lethal injection, before becoming a death penalty opponent.  Ron explains where the bodies of the executed are buried if no family claims them for private burial, and his decision to stop taking the Execution Team for the traditional post-execution breakfast, after he ran into an executed inmate’s defense counsel at the same restaurant.  

Dr. Shanker Nesathurai is a Professor of Medicine at McMaster University in Canada.  His article, “America’s Continuing Experience With Lethal Injection Executions,” appears in the Fall 2024 edition of Criminal Justice Magazine, published by the Criminal Justice Section of the American Bar Association.

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 Earlier this year, in February 2024, the ABA launched its Prosecutorial Independence Task Force.  Two of our guests, Professor Ellen Yaroshefsky (Hofstra Law School), and John Choi (Ramsey County Attorney in Ramsey County, Minnesota), are co-chairs of the Task Force.  John has the distinction of being the first Korean American Chief Prosecutor in the United States.  Our third guest, J. Charles (“Charlie”) Smith III, is the State’s Attorney for Frederick County, Maryland, and is the longest serving State’s Attorney in Maryland.  Charlie is also a member of the ABA Taskforce on Prosecutorial Independence, as well as the Chair of the Board at the National District Attorneys Association. 

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Joe Whitley and Nina Marino speak with Michael E. Horowitz, Inspector General of the United States Department of Justice.  Previously having served a six-year term as a Commissioner of the U.S. Sentencing Commission (2003-2009), Mr. Horowitz was sworn in on April 16, 2012 as Inspector General, following his confirmation by the U.S. Senate.  As Inspector General, Mr. Horowitz oversees 500+ special agents, auditors, inspectors, attorneys, and support staff nationwide.  Since 2020 he has also led the Pandemic Response Accountability Committee.  From 2015-2020 Mr. Horowitz served as Chair of the Council of the Inspectors General on Integrity and Efficiency (CIGIE).  Follow along with Joe and Nina as Mr. Horowitz shares with listeners about his early decision to enter the legal field, his journey from college to present day, and a glimpse into what the future may hold. 

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Our guest is the founding partner of the white collar criminal defense boutique Kaplan Marino, and co-host of our sister podcast, the ABA’s “White Collar Talks with Nina and Joe.”  She is the recipient of the American Bar Association Criminal Justice Section's (CJS) Charles English Award, the highest accolade for excellence in criminal justice, and recently secured an unusual verdict of acquittal in a federal public corruption case in the District of Hawaii.  We’re thrilled to welcome Nina Marino to the JustPod!

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Join us for another "White Collar Talks" podcast as Joe Whitley and Nina Marino interview William J. Hochul, Jr., a former United States Attorney and former General Counsel of a highly diversified, government-regulated global business.  Mr. Hochul was also a prior member of the Board of Directors of a large healthcare provider and employer.  Recently joining the law firm of Davis Polk, Mr. Hochul shares his experiences throughout his career and his transition to private practice.

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Premal Dharia is Executive Director of the Institute to End Mass Incarceration at Harvard Law School. She was previously a public defender and Director of Litigation for the Civil Rights Corps. She has been a frequent contributor to major publications such as The Washington Post, Slate, and CNN, on issues of criminal justice and racial disparities in the criminal justice system.  Premal joined Justin and Geonard to discuss the recently published volume, "Dismantling Mass Incarceration: A Handbook for Change," of which she is a co-editor, along with James Forman Jr., the J. Skelly Wright Professor of Law at Yale Law School, and Maria Hawilo, distinguished professor in residence at Loyola University Chicago School of Law.