On October 2, 2024, Pete Boddie, Rachel O’Brien, and Trent Loos joined the show. Republican candidate for Colorado HD-28 discusses his campaign against the incumbent, citing concerns about inflation, crime, illegal immigration, TABOR protection, and a legislative amendment affecting backflow testing businesses Open the Books Deputy Policy Director reveals Biden administration’s record $1 trillion in improper payments and investigates Tim Walz’s campaign donor connections.

Start listening at 16:24 – Hour 1

Pete Boddie, a hydrologist with 40 years of experience in South Jefferson County, describes his campaign to unseat the incumbent Democrat in House District 28. After recently retiring from water consulting, Boddie says he has the time and motivation to fight what he sees as California-style policies taking over Colorado. He cites inflation, crime, and illegal immigration as top concerns he hears while knocking on doors.

Boddie takes particular aim at what he calls “the big backflow blunder,” a last-minute amendment by his opponent that requires licensed plumbers to perform backflow device testing. He argues this threatens small businesses across the state and could result in public utilities receiving health violations. With 525 bills passed last legislative session, Boddie pledges to vote “no” on any bill he cannot clearly understand and explain to constituents.

“Well, I have a hat that says, make Colorado, Colorado again.”

Pete Boddie, Candidate for Colorado HD-28

Start listening at 31:25 – Hour 1

Rachel O’Brien, Deputy Policy Director for Open the Books, addresses the unexpected death of founder Adam Andrzejewski and the organization’s commitment to continuing his mission. O’Brien reveals that under President Biden, improper payments by federal agencies will exceed $1 trillion for the first time in any single administration. These payments, sent to wrong recipients, in wrong amounts, or for wrong reasons, totaled $235 billion last fiscal year alone.

The scope of waste is staggering: dead people received nearly $300 million in benefits, prisoners collected $171 million, and the IRS issued $25 billion in erroneous tax credits. While about 29% of overpayments get recovered, O’Brien notes that sophisticated fraud schemes remain undetected. Medicare and Medicaid account for over $100 billion in improper payments, representing 43% of the total waste.

O’Brien also presents findings from Minnesota’s state checkbook showing connections between Governor Tim Walz’s campaign donors and state contracts. Between 2019 and 2022, Walz accepted at least $890,000 from employees of vendors who received billions in state payments. Neither the governor’s office nor the Harris-Walz campaign responded to questions about potential conflicts of interest.

“So these are improper payments, and they’re exactly what they sound like.”

Rachel O’Brien, Deputy Policy Director, Open the Books

Start listening at 72:10 – Hour 2

Trent Loos, a sixth-generation farmer and rancher, warns about escalating water conflicts across the American West and the danger of proposed CO2 pipelines. While the Southeast deals with Hurricane Helene’s devastation, western states face severe drought conditions. Loos connects government subsidies for AI centers, Bitcoin mining, and CO2 compression to exponentially increasing water demands that will eventually compete with agricultural needs.

Fresh from debating proponents of South Dakota’s Referred Law 21, which would remove local control over CO2 pipelines, Loos emphasizes the lethal danger of compressed CO2. At 2,200 PSI, a pipeline rupture would expand CO2 at 500 times its compressed volume. Any environment exceeding 5% CO2 concentration proves fatal within two minutes. Loos criticizes those who told him he was “too stern” in the debate, noting that lives are at stake.

The discussion turns to Denver ballot initiatives seeking to ban fur sales and shut down Superior Farms, a lamb processing facility. Loos exposes the true intent behind these measures, pointing to language citing the UN Food and Agriculture Organization and promoting “plant-based food systems.” He reminds listeners that cities like Chicago, Denver, and Kansas City were built on the meatpacking industry, and animal rights organizations claiming to protect animals actually euthanize donated animals while collecting half a billion dollars annually.

“They are creating a CO2 chamber in all of the Great Plains of America.”

Trent Loos, Sixth-Generation Farmer and Rancher

On October 1, 2024, George Mumma, Marly Hornik, Coleen Orr, Erin Carney, and Ramey Johnson joined the show. Former Jefferson County police chief discusses campaign priorities including school choice, TABOR preservation, insurance issues, and the impact of Senate Bill 217 on law enforcement Co-founder of United Sovereign Americans explains the group’s federal lawsuits challenging voter registration errors and calls for citizens to document ballot problems through official channels.

Start listening at 31:39 – Hour 1

Marly Hornik, co-founder of United Sovereign Americans, breaks down the organization’s nine federal lawsuits challenging voter registration databases across the country. In Colorado, the group measured a 26.7% error rate in voter registrations for the 2022 midterm, meaning roughly one in four registrants had disqualifying errors in their records. Hornik explains that over one million Colorado registrations show voters casting ballots before they were registered, an impossible scenario that signals either catastrophic incompetence or deliberate manipulation.

The lawsuit targets Secretary of State Jena Griswold and argues that Colorado’s system cannot meet Congress’s standard of reliability, which allowed only 21 ballots in error statewide. Hornik urges citizens to document problems when mail-in ballots arrive, upload evidence at unite4freedom.com, and create official records that officials must investigate. The group received coverage in The New York Times, which Hornik takes as validation of their effectiveness.

“When you go on facebook and you report on facebook, no attorney general is required to investigate that. It does nothing to help support the move towards legitimate election. You made yourself feel better, but you didn’t do anything yet to save your country.”

Marly Hornik, Co-founder, United Sovereign Americans

Start listening at 15:50 – Hour 1

George Mumma served 45 years in Jefferson County law enforcement before retiring as chief of police. Now seeking to represent House District 25, which stretches from I-70 south to Deckers and from Pine Junction east to Wadsworth, he campaigned on bringing common sense back to the State Capitol. The district’s residents tell him their priorities: the economy, school choice, insurance problems in fire zones, and preserving their TABOR refunds.

Mumma recounts lobbying against Senate Bill 217 as police chief, warning legislators about its impact on proactive policing. His concern proved justified as officers now fear losing their livelihoods over citizen complaints. On education, Mumma rejects grades of C and D as acceptable outcomes, advocating for parents’ ability to choose faith-based, charter, or private schools. Jefferson County voters have rejected de-TABORing three times, yet county commissioners keep asking.

“If you look at my history, I have reached across the aisle without being crazy.”

George Mumma, Candidate for House District 25

Start listening at 73:55 – Hour 2

Hat maker Coleen Orr warns that Denver’s proposed fur ban would devastate her business, the National Western Stock Show, and Native American artisans at Indian markets and powwows. The ordinance covers everything from coats to keychains, targeting fur quality hats that customers prefer for durability and weather resistance. Orr explains that rabbit fur comes as a byproduct of the European food industry, beaver trapping maintains ecological balance, and nutria harvesting controls an invasive species devastating Louisiana’s deltas.

Erin Carney of the Colorado Cattlemen’s Association expands the threat to Ordinance 309, which would ban slaughterhouses from Denver, targeting Superior Farms, an employee-owned lamb processing plant operating since 1962. The group Pro-Animal Future sponsors both measures, and Carney notes they face campaign complaints for failing to disclose donors. The ordinance’s legislative intent explicitly calls for transitioning to a plant-based food system, revealing the agenda beneath animal welfare rhetoric.

“The rabbit fur that is all used is actually a byproduct of the European food industry. They are eating rabbits like we eat chicken, and we are just able to utilize those furs so they don’t get thrown out.”

Coleen Orr, Hat Maker

“This is an unfair ban on a business in Denver and would have widespread implications, including on all those employees that are residents of Denver.”

Erin Carney, Colorado Cattlemen’s Association

Start listening at 102:52 – Hour 2

Ramey Johnson, a master’s-prepared nurse and former state legislator, describes her summer walking every major street in House District 30. What she found transformed her understanding of the district’s struggles. Colfax Avenue is collapsing under the weight of shoplifting, fentanyl dealing, and chronically mentally ill homeless residents self-medicating with illegal drugs. Sheridan and Wadsworth corridors show similar warning signs.

Johnson connects the crisis directly to progressive public policy pushed through the State Capitol. Fentanyl pills sell for 50 cents to $2 on Colfax, with dealers giving away samples to create addicts. Business owners hemorrhage inventory to shoplifters but face corporate policies and weakened laws preventing intervention. As a former legislator and Lakewood city councilwoman, Johnson pledges to bring common sense, experience, and local control back to Denver’s statehouse.

“Colfax is collapsing. Sheridan is shaking. And frankly, Wadsworth is wobbling.”

Ramey Johnson, Candidate for House District 30

On September 30, 2024, Anthony Hartsook, Nephi Cole, and Lori Gimelshteyn joined the show. State Representative Hartsook exposes how Democratic supermajority control silences half of Colorado’s population through procedural rules, while discussing the strain of 40-50,000 illegal immigrants on state resources NSSF representative Cole exposes Proposition KK as a tax on Second Amendment rights, debunks misleading comparisons to Pittman-Robertson conservation funding, and explains hunters’.

Start listening at 17:00 – Hour 1

Anthony Hartsook, Republican representative for Colorado House District 44, sounds the alarm on the consequences of Democratic supermajority control in the state legislature. Hartsook, a 26-year military veteran with multiple combat deployments, describes how the “Mighty 19” Republican minority faces systematic silencing through procedural rules that shut down debate.

The Parker-area representative details how Rules 14 and 16 allow Democrats to prevent half the state’s population from having their voices heard. He connects this single-party dominance to the flood of 40,000 to 50,000 illegal immigrants straining education, healthcare, and transportation systems. The conversation turns to how legal immigrants who followed proper procedures express fury at those bypassing the system while receiving driver’s licenses and social services at taxpayer expense.

“They call us the Mighty 19 down at the Capitol, because there is only 19 of us on the Republican side. There are 46 on the Democrat side, which means they have a supermajority. And what that translates to is they not only control the agenda, but they can send things for constitutional amendments and stuff to the ballot, overriding anything the Republicans have to say.”

Anthony Hartsook, Colorado State Representative, House District 44

Start listening at 34:03 – Hour 1

Nephi Cole, State Affairs and Government Relations Director for the National Shooting Sports Foundation, exposes the deceptive nature of Colorado’s Proposition KK. This 6.5% excise tax on firearms, ammunition, and accessories represents a direct attack on the right to keep and bear arms, making self-defense more expensive for the single mother struggling in a dangerous Denver.

Cole reveals how proponents are falsely conflating this state tax with the federal Pittman-Robertson Act, a hunter-supported conservation program that has generated over $1.1 billion annually for wildlife management. He explains how hunters and sport shooters transformed America’s wildlife populations from fewer than 500,000 white-tailed deer in the early 1900s to 32 million today through voluntary conservation funding. The sleight of hand attempts to hijack this success story to fund gun control priorities that were never the firearms community’s agenda.

The discussion extends to Proposition 127, which would ban hunting of mountain lions and bobcats, undermining science-based wildlife management that keeps predator populations balanced with prey species like elk, deer, and turkeys.

“And so, in effect, it just makes it, it’s just a tax on, it’s a tax on your right to keep and bear arms. And it’s long term because if you buy a handgun and you want to be professional with it, you’re going to buy ammunition. So every time you go to purchase, you’re going to be paying the piper, as it were, for the right to keep and bear arms.”

Nephi Cole, State Affairs and Government Relations Director, National Shooting Sports Foundation

Start listening at 71:49 – Hour 2

Lori Gimelshteyn, founder of Colorado Parents Advocacy Network, announces a major First Amendment lawsuit filed by America First Legal against Cherry Creek School District. The lawsuit names the school board, superintendent, and notably the director of the Office of Equity, Culture, and Community Engagement, the district’s DEI office.

The case centers on Dean Patrick Hogarty, who was terminated after expressing pride in America during a mandatory “Courageous Conversations” race-based training session. Despite being assured it was a “safe space,” Hogarty faced retaliation when he disagreed with the premise that America is systemically racist. His position was eliminated under the false pretense of budget cuts.

Gimelshteyn connects this to a broader culture of intimidation and retribution in Colorado schools, where the teachers union actively funds school board candidates to maintain woke ideology. She notes that Cherry Creek, despite having the highest-paid teachers on the Front Range, sees more than half its students performing below grade level in reading, writing, and math, while building three medical clinics in four years instead of focusing on academic fundamentals.

“Yeah, there is a strong culture of intimidation and retribution in Cherry Creek School District. We have an incident reporting tool, which is how Patrick reached out to CPN at the beginning of the year. And we’ve received reports from teachers not only in Cherry Creek but across the state. And there is this just common thread of fear, fear of intimidation, fear of retribution.”

Lori Gimelshteyn, Founder, Colorado Parents Advocacy Network

On September 27, 2024, Dennis Haynes, Brad Beck, Greg Morrissey, Marshall Dawson, Ross Klopf, Dave Walden, Terri Goon, Kim Gilmartin, Pam Benigno, Mark Davis, Mary Janssen, and Jim May joined the show. Served as in-studio co-host throughout Hour 1, facilitating Liberty Toastmasters table topics on environment, conservation, and property rights Argued for human flourishing over pristine preservation, connecting environmental stewardship to freedom and property rights through Madison’s writings Presented research on vehicle speed and pollution, noting that driving at 50-55 mph produces.

Start listening at 30:26 – Hour 1

Brad Beck, co-founder of Liberty Toastmasters, frames the environmental debate around human flourishing rather than pristine preservation. Drawing on Greg Walcher’s book “Smoking Them Out,” Beck argues that environmental policies often prove counterproductive, leading to unnecessary regulation and economic decline. He warns against policies that push Americans toward smaller homes and away from personal vehicles.

Beck connects stewardship to freedom, noting that even native peoples understood good stewardship of the land. Without freedom and property rights, he argues, our ability to care for the environment diminishes. Madison’s writings on property extend beyond physical possessions to include opinions, thoughts, and religious beliefs, all grounded in freedom.

“We should be about human flourishing, not about protecting a pristine environment.”

Brad Beck, Co-founder, Liberty Toastmasters

Start listening at 39:26 – Hour 1

Marshall Dawson, Congressional candidate for Colorado’s CD2, emphasizes local stakeholder involvement in land management. Running for office across a district stretching from Boulder County to Routt and Eagle Counties, Dawson sees firsthand how federal land ownership affects communities. He cautions that federal acquisition of land and water resources represents not just property rights issues but potential coercion tools.

Colorado’s beauty attracts residents and visitors alike, but Dawson distinguishes between appreciation for natural beauty and environmentalism. Proper management requires input from those who live near these lands, not distant federal agencies. Water, as one of Colorado’s greatest natural resources, demands particular vigilance against federal overreach.

“The people who live next to these lands are the ones who really love it and want to care for it, and that doesn’t necessarily require government intervention.”

Marshall Dawson, Congressional Candidate, CD2

Start listening at 43:27 – Hour 1

Ross Klopf challenges misguided environmental mandates like plastic straw bans and gas stove restrictions. Instead, he champions nuclear power as a genuinely effective clean energy solution. The United States currently derives 18.6% of its power from nuclear sources with minimal side effects, while France generates over 70% of its electricity from nuclear plants.

Colorado lacks any nuclear power generation despite having no legal prohibition against it. Klopp attributes this to political opposition from groups like the Colorado Renewable Energy Society. The alternative, relying solely on wind and solar, would lead to rolling blackouts or force Colorado to import power from other states, likely generated from coal, undermining both jobs and environmental goals.

“Nuclear power is extremely reliable, it’s extremely safe, and it’s extremely clean.”

Ross Klopf, Liberty Toastmasters

Start listening at 49:59 – Hour 1

Dave Walden reflects on a recent camping trip to Teddy Roosevelt National Park in North Dakota. The harsh landscape reminded him that nature serves as an unforgiving master. Americans appreciate natural beauty precisely because they have conquered basic survival needs, with abundant food, water, shelter, and safe transportation.

Few civilizations in history have enjoyed such security from nature’s threats. Walden warns that taking these conditions for granted risks losing the very foundations that make them possible. The ability to control aspects of nature enables appreciation of its beauty rather than fear of its dangers.

“Here in America, we have come to take for granted what few civilizations in history have ever been able to take for granted.”

Dave Walden, Liberty Toastmasters

Start listening at 60:50 – Hour 2

Kim Gilmartin, founder of Liberty Schools Initiative, traces her education reform journey to concerns about curriculum content when her children attended Jefferson County schools. She discovered classical education and helped open four Hillsdale-affiliated charter schools in Colorado, emphasizing phonics, cursive, low technology, teacher-directed learning, and the great books.

Classical liberal arts education, Gilmartin explains, teaches students to become free thinkers rather than indoctrinating them into ideology. This approach mirrors how the Founding Fathers learned, equipping students with tools for critical thinking and success in life. The focus remains on content-rich curriculum drawn from the sciences, mathematics, history, literature, and civics.

“But a liberal arts education is teaching a free a person how to be a free thinker, how to be a free human being.”

Kim Gilmartin, Founder, Liberty Schools Initiative

Start listening at 74:57 – Hour 2

Pam Benigno, Director of the Education Policy Center at the Independence Institute, details how House Bill 19-1192 created a commission to revise social studies standards. The legislation mandated inclusion of various minority group histories, with LGBTQ content added through amendment. Resources now available to teachers include videos explaining same-sex relationships to first graders and books about transgender activists read to six-year-olds.

Unlike comprehensive sex education, which requires parental notification and opt-out provisions starting in fourth grade, social studies has no such protections. Teachers can use these resources without parental knowledge or consent. Third-grade materials include audio recordings about Harvey Milk’s murder and the controversy surrounding his killer’s conviction.

“They’ve got to stand up and say, no, you’re not going to do this to my child.”

Pam Benigno, Director, Education Policy Center, Independence Institute

Start listening at 21:45 – Hour 1

Mark Davis, candidate for Castle Rock Town Council District 4, brings 30 years of construction management experience to his campaign. With only two conservatives currently on the seven-member council, Davis sees his town transforming in unwelcome ways. Sheriff Weekly confirmed Castle Rock as the last conservative town in the Denver area.

Overdevelopment concerns Davis most, particularly projects like 1,800 units in Pine Canyon and a 178-unit high-rise on Wilcox Street that threatens traffic safety. His approach emphasizes teamwork rather than dramatic confrontation, building relationships with current council members while advocating for responsible growth that serves the town’s 83,000 residents.

“I see what our town is turning into Boulder, and I don’t want that.”

Mark Davis, Candidate, Castle Rock Town Council

On September 26, 2024, Matt Burcham, Jay Davidson, Karen Levine, and Pam Long joined the show. First-time candidate from Highlands Ranch discusses his grassroots campaign to flip a recently-lost Republican seat, emphasizing citizen legislators over career politicians Bank CEO explains how the Fed’s 50 basis point rate cut is politically motivated and traces current inflation to $8 trillion in quantitative easing since 2008 Veteran realtor explains.

Start listening at 25:53 – Hour 1

Jay Davidson, founder and CEO of First American State Bank, characterized the Fed’s 50 basis point rate cut as politically motivated rather than financially sound. Davidson traced current inflation directly to the Federal Reserve’s quantitative easing program that expanded its balance sheet from $800 billion to $9 trillion since 2008.

The veteran banker explained how printing $8 trillion devalued the purchasing power of every dollar Americans hold. “So the next question is, what devalues the dollar?” Davidson asked, walking listeners through the mechanics of money supply expansion. He warned that BRICS nations are actively working to replace the dollar as the world’s reserve currency, threatening America’s ability to borrow at favorable rates.

Davidson’s prescription proved straightforward: stop government spending and reduce the money supply by not reissuing maturing Treasury bonds. “The solution is really straightforward,” he said. “Stop spending and reduce the supply of money in the economy.”

“Inflation is pure and simple devaluation of the purchasing power of the dollar.”

Jay Davidson, Founder and CEO, First American State Bank

Start listening at 15:38 – Hour 1

Matt Burcham detailed his campaign for Colorado House District 43, a seat Republicans lost by just 400 votes in the previous election. The Highlands Ranch father and finance professional described himself as a longtime grassroots volunteer who decided to step up after years of working behind the scenes for the Douglas County GOP.

Burcham cited alarming statistics including U.S. News ranking Colorado as the third most dangerous state and a 22 percent year-over-year decline in new business startups. “These leftist policies just don’t work,” he argued, calling for citizen legislators rather than career politicians to restore balance to state government.

“I could no longer sit on the sidelines and watch everything crumble, the decline of our state.”

Matt Burcham, Candidate for Colorado House District 43

Start listening at 64:40 – Hour 2

Karen Levine, a RE/MAX realtor with over three decades of experience, explained Colorado’s leadership in buyer agency representation, noting the state recognized buyer agency in 1991. She described how inventory levels have increased to a decade-high, shifting market dynamics from sellers to buyers.

Despite election-year uncertainty causing some buyers to sit on the sidelines, Levine reported 75 homes in Arvada went under contract in just three weeks. “Because of that, as you said Kim, that creates opportunity for somebody who is like, hey, I want to seize the moment,” she observed.

“Inventory levels have increased to a level that we haven’t seen in a decade.”

Karen Levine, RE/MAX Realtor

Start listening at 74:46 – Hour 2

Pam Long, director of the Children’s Health Defense Military Chapter and a West Point graduate who served as a medical intelligence officer for NATO, delivered a comprehensive analysis of vaccine adverse event data. She opened by recounting a pharmacy encounter where aggressive COVID vaccine marketing prompted her to inform pharmacists that Florida’s Department of Health had recommended against mRNA vaccines for all age groups.

Long cited 1.6 million reports of injury and death in the OpenVAERS database from COVID vaccines alone, exceeding all other vaccines combined over the previous 30 years. She detailed specific adverse events including 37,000 deaths, 71,000 permanent disabilities, and 28,000 cases of heart conditions.

The military veteran emphasized vitamin D’s role in respiratory health, noting public health never campaigned about the connection between low vitamin D levels and cold and flu season. “To this day, we still have not campaigned about telling the public about vitamin D because it’s not profitable,” she stated.

Long also examined pneumonia, shingles, RSV, and flu vaccines, highlighting serious adverse reactions including Guillain-Barre syndrome and noting that the flu vaccine has never met FDA’s 50 percent efficacy requirement for licensing.

“Florida’s Department of Health, one of the largest health departments in the nation, advised doctors to not give mRNA vaccines to anyone at any age.”

Pam Long, Director, Children’s Health Defense Military Chapter

On September 25, 2024, Bob Boswell and Trent Loos joined the show. Boswell details how 31% inflation and regulatory overreach through enterprise fees threaten Colorado’s energy industry, warning that proposed disproportionately impacted communities regulations will eliminate Western Slope natural gas development Loos connects modern climate policy to the 1966 Cloward-Piven strategy, revealing how ocean CO2 emissions dwarf human contributions while warning that.

Start listening at 30:24 – Hour 1

Bob Boswell, CEO of Laramie Energy, warns that everyday commodity inflation has risen 31% in the first three and a half years of the Biden administration, hitting lower and middle-income families hardest. He explains how the misnamed Inflation Reduction Act poured trillions into climate initiatives based on what he calls a false premise, while Colorado piles on additional regulations through enterprise fees designed to circumvent TABOR protections.

Boswell explains that CO2 is nature’s fertilizer, noting that Earth dies at 100 parts per million, currently sits at 400 parts per million, and plant growth is most robust at 1,000 parts per million. With eight billion people to feed, he argues we need a CO2-rich environment and methane, which provides 70% of global fertilizer. The push to eliminate fossil fuels threatens essential elements of everyday consumption and quality of life.

The state’s Energy and Carbon Management Commission continues adding regulatory layers despite a supposed legislative moratorium through what Boswell calls the Grand Compromise. He points to the proposed “disproportionately impacted communities” regulations as the latest threat to Western Slope natural gas development, which would effectively eliminate infrastructure needed to produce the state’s cleanest-burning fuel. These regulations, targeting rural areas with sparse populations, would disproportionately hurt the very communities they claim to protect while eliminating jobs that are economically vital to those regions. The cost of energy will inevitably rise as production declines.

“The forecast of doom and gloom related to carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is a false premise.”

Bob Boswell, CEO of Laramie Energy

Start listening at 74:48 – Hour 2

Trent Loos, sixth-generation farmer and rancher, connects modern climate policy to the 1966 Cloward-Piven strategy designed to overwhelm social systems and collapse economic stability. The strategy’s architects wanted to eliminate poverty by making everyone equally poor, throwing massive amounts of money into guaranteed income programs to create chaos and destroy economic stability until there is no distinction between wealthy and poor.

Loos reveals that Cloward and Piven stood behind Bill Clinton when he signed the National Voter Registration Act of 1993, which established the automatic voter registration systems now used across states like Colorado. This Motor Voter law requires states to register anyone who applies for a driver’s license or public assistance, setting up the mail-in ballot system that now generates ballots for undeliverable addresses across the state.

On climate, Loos presents striking data: ocean surface temperatures contribute 330 gigatons of CO2 annually to the atmosphere while all human activity worldwide contributes just 37 gigatons. He argues the climate agenda serves political control rather than environmental protection, creating government dependency while restricting the ability to convert natural resources into essentials of life. His solution focuses on maintaining local infrastructure for food and energy production independent of state and federal mandates, drawing the line at county and community levels where citizens can maintain control over their own resources.

“They wanted to eliminate the poor, and they wanted to eliminate the poor by making everybody equal to the poor.”

Trent Loos, Sixth-Generation Rancher

On September 24, 2024, Karen Levine, Candice Stutzreim, Doug Jennings, and Leigh Brown joined the show. Filled in as guest host while Kim traveled, leading discussions on energy regulation, election integrity, and real estate policy Explained how Proposition 131’s all-candidate primary and ranked choice voting would eliminate meaningful party representation and make elections opaque to average voters Revealed how state and municipal energy benchmarking regulations impose.

Start listening at 37:05 – Hour 1

Doug Jennings, a commercial real estate broker with REMAX Alliance, exposes the cascading costs of Colorado’s benchmarking regulations. What started as Regulation 28 at the state level has spawned more aggressive municipal programs like Energize Denver and even stricter requirements in Fort Collins. Property owners now face mandatory annual energy usage reports, with fines up to $15,000 for failing to reduce consumption, regardless of whether increased usage stems from legitimate business growth or new tenants occupying previously vacant space.

Jennings explains that the regulatory burden extends far beyond the reporting itself. Property management companies must hire specialists or outsource compliance, driving up operating costs that ultimately flow through to tenants and consumers. The irony is not lost on Jennings: regulations marketed as environmental protection become “government catnip,” with each municipality trying to outdo the others in stringency.

“So it’s so confusing, like anything government, you can imagine it’s layer upon layer of confusion and it costs more.”

Doug Jennings, Commercial Broker, REMAX Alliance

Start listening at 20:28 – Hour 1

Candice Stutzreim breaks down Proposition 131, a ballot measure backed by billionaire Kent Thiry that would fundamentally transform Colorado elections. The proposal combines an all-candidate primary with ranked choice voting in the general election, a system Stutzreim describes as the worst thing for the average voter’s voice.

Under the current system, citizens can participate in neighborhood caucuses, choose delegates they personally know, and watch candidates compete for nominations at assemblies. Proposition 131 would replace this with a system where dozens of candidates from all parties appear randomly on a single primary ballot, with the top four advancing to a general election decided by a computer-driven ranked choice process. Stutzreim warns that most voters will never understand how winners are determined under this opaque system.

“The objective of 131 in the big picture is to eliminate the parties and to create basically two general elections where all people, all parties, even unaffiliated, even no party at all, all vote off the same ballot.”

Candice Stutzreim, Election Integrity Advocate

Start listening at 71:27 – Hour 2

Leigh Brown, a North Carolina realtor and national speaker, provides a sweeping analysis of the challenges facing real estate professionals and consumers alike. From the DOJ-backed lawsuits targeting the National Association of Realtors to proposed federal policies like Affirmatively Furthering Fair Housing that could override local zoning, Brown argues the industry is under unprecedented attack.

Brown contrasts the housing policies of the two presidential campaigns: while the Harris campaign proposes $25,000 down payment grants that would simply inflate prices in a supply-constrained market, the Trump administration’s opportunity zones actually encouraged capital investment in underserved communities. The fundamental problem, Brown explains, is that government thinks of itself as a parent rather than a facilitator, leading to policies that sound helpful but ultimately harm the people they claim to serve.

“If you’re in the public, you should know that it is only the realtors who have been willing to go talk to elected officials about housing policy. And if we’re not around, who is going to speak up?”

Leigh Brown, Realtor and National Speaker