On December 29, 2023, Kim Monson welcomed two experts to examine threats to American liberty: retired Army Col. John Mills, author of “War Against the Deep State,” analyzed the expansion of government surveillance and bureaucratic overreach, while urban planning expert Randall O’Toole exposed Governor Polis’s plan to force high-density housing on Coloradans who prefer single-family homes.
The Rise of the Fourth, Fifth, and Sixth Branches of Government
Start listening at 2:07 – Hour 1
Col. John Mills traces the foundations of America’s modern surveillance state to mass surveillance systems he helped establish between 2007 and 2014. Originally designed to protect Americans from foreign extremist threats, these capabilities have been turned inward against American citizens. Mills identifies three new branches of government beyond the traditional bureaucratic fourth branch: the administrative state weaponizing regulation as law, the fusion of federal law enforcement with big tech creating pervasive surveillance, and politicized nonprofits funneling money to advance progressive agendas.
The EPA’s attempts to regulate groundwater on private property and the ATF’s pistol brace ruling exemplify bureaucrats treating regulations as if they were law. Mills points to the UPenn Biden Center and the 51 intelligence officers letter as examples of nonprofits conducting election interference. He argues that church groups and hotel chains profiting from illegal immigrant resettlement demonstrate how the nonprofit sector has been corrupted by government money.
“The fifth branch is the fusion of federal law enforcement, federal intelligence, and big tech to create a pervasive, take that pervasive surveillance state and really, really conduct severe targeting, silencing, and censoring of Americans.”
Col. John Mills, Author, War Against the Deep State
Taking Back Local Government from Blue Tyranny
Start listening at 34:54 – Hour 1
Mills argues that Colorado has become a case study of what happens when progressive transplants from blue states take over local governance. He identifies the seven centers of gravity in America’s 3,300 counties: election boards, school boards, registrars, county councils, sheriffs, judges, and prosecutors. The solution to defeating the deep state starts with citizen involvement at the local level, not waiting for federal solutions.
Legal cannabis in Colorado has created opportunities for Chinese paramilitary operations to muscle into the cash-heavy industry, while money skimmed from these operations funds paid protesters waving various activist flags. Mills calls on Coloradans to get off the couch, stop complaining on social media, and actually run for local office or attend city council meetings.
“Get off the couch. Get in the game. Stop bellowing on social media. Stop bellowing, getting mad and getting angry. Get in the game and get involved. The busybodies have just taken over these roles, and there’s only one way to deal with it. That’s to take them back.”
Col. John Mills, Author, War Against the Deep State
Governor Polis’s Plan to Turn Colorado into Greenwich Village
Start listening at 60:14 – Hour 2
Randall O’Toole exposes Governor Polis’s “2026 Roadmap” as a repackaged version of the failed Senate Bill 213. The plan aims to eliminate single-family zoning, allow duplexes and fourplexes in residential neighborhoods, and force high-density development near transit lines. While the previous bill used mandates, Polis now proposes incentives, threatening to withhold federal and state housing subsidies from cities that refuse to densify.
O’Toole notes that 80 percent of Americans prefer single-family homes, yet urban planners insist on packing people into 600-square-foot apartments. The planners ignore that only 1.5 percent of Colorado is developed, leaving 98.5 percent as open space. Their obsession with preventing “sprawl” comes at the cost of housing affordability and personal choice.
“Most Americans want to live in a single-family home, and by most I mean 80 percent. And yet urban planners think that if they can pack people into apartments and other high-density housing that they’ll drive less, and that’ll somehow be better for the environment. It actually is worse, because they might drive a little less, but it’ll be a lot more congested.”
Randall O’Toole, Transportation and Urban Planning Expert
The Failure of Transit-Oriented Development
Start listening at 93:33 – Hour 2
O’Toole presents damning statistics on Denver’s transit investments. In 1990, 4.7 percent of Denver commuters took transit to work. After spending more than $10 billion on light rail and commuter rail, plus hundreds of millions on transit-oriented development subsidies, that figure rose to just 4.8 percent by 2019. Meanwhile, traffic congestion has massively increased, generating more greenhouse gases per capita than in 1990.
The affordable housing industrial complex builds expensive five-story apartment buildings that cost twice as much per square foot as two-story buildings. For every subsidized housing unit built, developers build 0.8 fewer unsubsidized units, creating a net negative effect on housing supply. O’Toole calls for abolishing urban growth boundaries and ending the rail transit obsession.
“So the plans are failing all around, and yet the solution is more of it. Let’s build a front-range rail line. Let’s build a rail line to Longmont. You know, let’s subsidize more housing, more high-density housing. Always a solution when the plans fail is to do more of the same, and people need to understand that this is not working, and maybe replace their elected officials with other elected officials who do understand that.”
Randall O’Toole, Transportation and Urban Planning Expert