The Klunatics Podcast

SPOILER ALERT: The short story Lovesong, presented here in audio, contains spoilers for Wolfsong, Ravensong, and Heartsong.

The complete text of Lovesong Part II is available at www.tjklunebooks.com.

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This week, we’re doing something new. We gathered a group of Klunatics to have a round table discussion of TJ Klune’s antagonists. Are they evil? Misunderstood? Are villains just the hero of their own story? Like most of the topics we discuss here on The Klunatics Podcast, the answers we come up with may surprise you.

Featuring: Chealsea Verzwyvelt, Melissa Logan, Tanya Hess, Anji River, Dene Young, Susannah Frigo, and Michael Lesley

A couple of warnings: There are some gentle spoilers for TJ Klune’s books, so proceed with caution, and this conversation also contains a political joke, which we’ve left in despite the Klunatic rule banning political talk precisely because it is, in fact, a joke.

The Klunatics Podcast is produced by Susannah Frigo, Luis Garcia, Angela Noll Mohn, Sita Rajasingham, Mia Sciberras, Jon Steiger, and Kirt Graves. This episode was written by Sita Rajasingham.

Special thanks to our season sponsor, Tex Tycoon. JK. It’s still Chelsea Verzwyvelt.

Make sure you’re following The Klunatics Podcast on social media. Join our Facebook group and find us on Instagram and Twitter using @KlunaticsPod. All episodes are now available on YouTube as well.

If you want to support the podcast with a financial contribution, hit the donate button at www.klunaticspodcast.com. Your generous donations allowed us to make a $500 donation to The Trevor Project. Donations collected after July 1, 2020 will be banked for a potential season two, and please include the name of a charity you think needs our support when you donate. We love The Trevor Project, but we’d like to spread the love.

Additional information about the podcast, including episode transcripts and the Klunespeak Don’t-Be-A-Dictionary, is available at www.klunaticspodcast.com.

You can find out more about Kirt and his work at www.kirtreads.com.

All music and sound effects heard in this episode are licensed by Storyblocks Audio.

This week, we’re doing something new. We gathered a group of Klunatics to have a round table discussion of TJ Klune’s antagonists. Are they evil? Misunderstood? Are villains just the hero of their own story? Like most of the topics we discuss here on The Klunatics Podcast, the answers we come up with may surprise you.

Featuring: Chealsea Verzwyvelt, Melissa Logan, Tanya Hess, Anji River, Dene Young, Susannah Frigo, and Michael Lesley

A couple of warnings: There are some gentle spoilers for TJ Klune’s books, so proceed with caution, and this conversation also contains a political joke, which we’ve left in despite the Klunatic rule banning political talk precisely because it is, in fact, a joke.

The Klunatics Podcast is produced by Susannah Frigo, Luis Garcia, Angela Noll Mohn, Sita Rajasingham, Mia Sciberras, Jon Steiger, and Kirt Graves. This episode was written by Sita Rajasingham.

Special thanks to our season sponsor, Tex Tycoon. JK. It’s still Chelsea Verzwyvelt.

Make sure you’re following The Klunatics Podcast on social media. Join our Facebook group and find us on Instagram and Twitter using @KlunaticsPod. All episodes are now available on YouTube as well.

If you want to support the podcast with a financial contribution, hit the donate button at www.klunaticspodcast.com. Your generous donations allowed us to make a $500 donation to The Trevor Project. Donations collected after July 1, 2020 will be banked for a potential season two, and please include the name of a charity you think needs our support when you donate. We love The Trevor Project, but we’d like to spread the love.

Additional information about the podcast, including episode transcripts and the Klunespeak Don’t-Be-A-Dictionary, is available at www.klunaticspodcast.com.

You can find out more about Kirt and his work at www.kirtreads.com.

All music and sound effects heard in this episode are licensed by Storyblocks Audio.

In the course of creating this podcast, the producers have worked hard not to put an editorial spin on many of the topics we discuss. We took inspiration from TJ’s stories and characters, and we let the interviewees guide the episode. Not so this time. Today, we have a point of view and a statement to make: Let Boys Be Feminine.

The Klunatics Podcast is produced by Susannah Frigo, Luis Garcia, Angela Noll Mohn, Sita Rajasingham, Mia Sciberras, Jon Steiger, and Kirt Graves. This episode was written by Angela Noll Mohn.

Special thanks to our season sponsor, Chelsea Verzwyvelt.

Make sure you’re following The Klunatics Podcast on social media. Join our Facebook group and find us on Instagram and Twitter using @KlunaticsPod. All episodes are now available on YouTube as well.

If you want to support the podcast with a financial contribution, hit the donate button at www.klunaticspodcast.com. Your generous donations allowed us to make a $500 donation to The Trevor Project. Donations collected after July 1, 2020 will be banked for a potential season two, and please include the name of a charity you think needs our support when you donate. We love The Trevor Project, but we’d like to spread the love.

Additional information about the podcast, including episode transcripts and the Klunespeak Don’t-Be-A-Dictionary, is available at www.klunaticspodcast.com.

You can find out more about Kirt and his work at www.kirtreads.com.

All music and sound effects heard in this episode are licensed by Storyblocks Audio.

In the course of creating this podcast, the producers have worked hard not to put an editorial spin on many of the topics we discuss. We took inspiration from TJ’s stories and characters, and we let the interviewees guide the episode. Not so this time. Today, we have a point of view and a statement to make: Let Boys Be Feminine.

The Klunatics Podcast is produced by Susannah Frigo, Luis Garcia, Angela Noll Mohn, Sita Rajasingham, Mia Sciberras, Jon Steiger, and Kirt Graves. This episode was written by Angela Noll Mohn.

Special thanks to our season sponsor, Chelsea Verzwyvelt.

Make sure you’re following The Klunatics Podcast on social media. Join our Facebook group and find us on Instagram and Twitter using @KlunaticsPod. All episodes are now available on YouTube as well.

If you want to support the podcast with a financial contribution, hit the donate button at www.klunaticspodcast.com. Your generous donations allowed us to make a $500 donation to The Trevor Project. Donations collected after July 1, 2020 will be banked for a potential season two, and please include the name of a charity you think needs our support when you donate. We love The Trevor Project, but we’d like to spread the love.

Additional information about the podcast, including episode transcripts and the Klunespeak Don’t-Be-A-Dictionary, is available at www.klunaticspodcast.com.

You can find out more about Kirt and his work at www.kirtreads.com.

All music and sound effects heard in this episode are licensed by Storyblocks Audio.

Some narrators are extraordinary, and Michael Lesley is one of them. Michael joins Kirt for a chat about what it was like to narrate *The Extraordinaries*, TJ's Young Adult Superqueero debut. FEATURING AN EXCLUSIVE PREVIEW OF *THE EXTRAORDINARIES* AUDIOBOOK. *The Extraordinaries* is available in hard cover, ebook, and audio, on July 14. Available wherever books are sold or at [Macmillan Books](https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250203670).

The Klunatics Podcast is produced by Susannah Frigo, Luis Garcia, Angela Noll Mohn, Sita Rajasingham, Mia Sciberras, Jon Steiger, and Kirt Graves.

Make sure you’re following The Klunatics Podcast on social media. Join our Facebook group and find us on Instagram and Twitter using @KlunaticsPod.

Special thanks to our season sponsor, Chelsea Verzwyvelt.

If you like what you heard, please take a moment to rate and review the podcast on Apple Podcasts or wherever you’re listening to this episode. Word of mouth is still the best advertising, so please tell a friend or post about the show on social media.

Additional information about the podcast, including episode transcripts and the Klunespeak Don’t-Be-A-Dictionary, is also available at www.klunaticspodcast.com.

You can find out more about Kirt and his work at www.kirtreads.com.

All music and sound effects heard in this episode are licensed by Storyblocks Audio.

Some narrators are extraordinary, and Michael Lesley is one of them. Michael joins Kirt for a chat about what it was like to narrate The Extraordinaries, TJ's Young Adult Superqueero debut. FEATURING AN EXCLUSIVE PREVIEW OF THE EXTRAORDINARIES AUDIOBOOK. The Extraordinaries is available in hard cover, ebook, and audio, on July 14. Available wherever books are sold or at Macmillan Books.

The Klunatics Podcast is produced by Susannah Frigo, Luis Garcia, Angela Noll Mohn, Sita Rajasingham, Mia Sciberras, Jon Steiger, and Kirt Graves.

Make sure you’re following The Klunatics Podcast on social media. Join our Facebook group and find us on Instagram and Twitter using @KlunaticsPod.

Special thanks to our season sponsor, Chelsea Verzwyvelt.

If you like what you heard, please take a moment to rate and review the podcast on Apple Podcasts or wherever you’re listening to this episode. Word of mouth is still the best advertising, so please tell a friend or post about the show on social media.

Additional information about the podcast, including episode transcripts and the Klunespeak Don’t-Be-A-Dictionary, is also available at www.klunaticspodcast.com.

You can find out more about Kirt and his work at www.kirtreads.com.

All music and sound effects heard in this episode are licensed by Storyblocks Audio.

Some episodes are extraordinary. Some are just extra. Inspired by an early conversation for the podcast, Kirt talks to a local librarian about advocating for queer content in your local library.

The Klunatics Podcast is produced by Susannah Frigo, Luis Garcia, Angela Noll Mohn, Sita Rajasingham, Mia Sciberras, Jon Steiger, and Kirt Graves.

Make sure you’re following The Klunatics Podcast on social media. Join our Facebook group and find us on Instagram and Twitter using @KlunaticsPod.

Special thanks to our season sponsor, Chelsea Verzwyvelt.

If you like what you heard, please take a moment to rate and review the podcast on Apple Podcasts or wherever you’re listening to this episode. Word of mouth is still the best advertising, so please tell a friend or post about the show on social media.

Additional information about the podcast, including episode transcripts and the Klunespeak Don’t-Be-A-Dictionary, is also available at www.klunaticspodcast.com.

You can find out more about Kirt and his work at www.kirtreads.com.

All music and sound effects heard in this episode are licensed by Storyblocks Audio.

Some episodes are extraordinary. Some are just extra. Inspired by an early conversation for the podcast, Kirt talks to a local librarian about advocating for queer content in your local library.

The Klunatics Podcast is produced by Susannah Frigo, Luis Garcia, Angela Noll Mohn, Sita Rajasingham, Mia Sciberras, Jon Steiger, and Kirt Graves.

Make sure you’re following The Klunatics Podcast on social media. Join our Facebook group and find us on Instagram and Twitter using @KlunaticsPod.

Special thanks to our season sponsor, Chelsea Verzwyvelt.

If you like what you heard, please take a moment to rate and review the podcast on Apple Podcasts or wherever you’re listening to this episode. Word of mouth is still the best advertising, so please tell a friend or post about the show on social media.

Additional information about the podcast, including episode transcripts and the Klunespeak Don’t-Be-A-Dictionary, is also available at www.klunaticspodcast.com.

You can find out more about Kirt and his work at www.kirtreads.com.

All music and sound effects heard in this episode are licensed by Storyblocks Audio.

In September 2016, author Corinne Duyvis created the hashtag #OwnVoices. Her goal was to be able to find and recommend kidlit books with diverse characters that were written by diverse authors. In the years since, the movement has grown to mean many things to many people, and we examine its place in queer literature.

The Klunatics Podcast is produced by Susannah Frigo, Luis Garcia, Angela Noll Mohn, Sita Rajasingham, Mia Sciberras, Jon Steiger, and Kirt Graves. This episode was written by Susannah Frigo.

Special thanks to Lindsey Dorcus for voicing the answers provided by April Daniels. You can find out more about Lindsey at www.lindseydorcus.com. And as always, thanks to our season sponsor, Chelsea Verzwyvelt.

Make sure you’re following The Klunatics Podcast on social media. Join our Facebook group and find us on Instagram and Twitter using @KlunaticsPod. All episodes are now available on YouTube as well.

If you want to support the podcast with a financial contribution, hit the donate button at www.klunaticspodcast.com. Anything we collect from now until July 1, 2020, will be donated to The Trevor Project.

We are once again challenging you to share the podcast with someone new to the world of TJ Klune. Share your favorite episode with them and let us know how it goes. Send us an email at [email protected].

Additional information about the podcast, including episode transcripts and the Klunespeak Don’t-Be-A-Dictionary, is available at www.klunaticspodcast.com.

You can find out more about Kirt and his work at www.kirtreads.com.

All music and sound effects heard in this episode are licensed by Storyblocks Audio.