• Leadership through identity and integrity: Why leadership isn't about image, it's about ownership.
  
   
• Mental health & healing: From ayahuasca to horses, the modalities that changed Dr. JayR's life.
  
   
• Survival vs. legacy: From the streets of Long Beach to global impact, Dr. JayR's journey.
  
   
• The real role of motivation: Get them out of the tunnel first—then lead them on the journey.
  
   
• Routine, consistency & impact: Why your life is your content and your routine is your secret weapon.
  
   

“If I give you everything, I have nothing left.” – Dr. JayR McIntyre
 

“Be dry fit. Work in any weather. Don’t stop.” – Dr. JayR McIntyre
 

“We’re not born in the spotlight—we’re forged in the trenches.” – Jeff Ross

• 00:00 – Introduction to Season 3: The Hero Makers Season
  
   
• 02:17 – “Your life is your algorithm”—resetting your inner operating system
  
   
• 03:45 – Real talk: why influencers need healing before speaking
  
   
• 05:55 – Can you survive if the world went dark?
  
   
• 08:16 – AI & identity: mastering tools vs. being ruled by them
  
   
• 11:30 – Survival stories that shape your leadership
  
   
• 13:04 – Failure as feedback: the leadership reframe
  
   
• 15:59 – Legacy isn't for you—it's for the next generation
  
   
• 18:41 – Content is your life: stop creating, start documenting
  
   
• 24:20 – Just help one: why impact beats algorithm
  
   
• 27:46 – Final wisdom: “Be dry fit. Don’t stop. Be proud of yourself.”
  
   

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In this powerful episode, Jeff Ross is joined by Fathers for Change founder Patrick Nugent, a father of three who’s redefining what it means to be a man in today’s world. From the chaos of his 20s to a quiet spiritual shift in China as a first-time dad, Patrick shares his journey of identity, depression, masculinity, and the launch of a movement that now supports countless fathers across Australia.

This is one of the realest conversations we’ve had yet on HeroMakers. If you're a dad, husband, or man navigating purpose—this one’s for you.

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• Resilience is not hype—it’s habit.
  
   
• “Drift” is slow-motion destruction for any man.
  
   
• Vulnerability is just another word for truth.
  
   
• Your family is your first leadership stage.
  
   
• Donkeys are more spiritually grounded than some humans.
  
   

“You don’t rise to the level of your goals. You rise to the level of your training.” – Craig Whitney
“Drift doesn’t scream. It whispers.” – Craig Whitney
“The donkey’s strength is calm in chaos. That’s leadership.” – Craig Whitney

• 02:49 – HeroMakers Season intro with Craig
  
   
• 06:00 – Why “lone wolf” masculinity is a trap
  
   
• 11:14 – Craig’s childhood on the farm: lessons from donkeys
  
   
• 15:10 – True definition of resilience
  
   
• 22:47 – Men, emotions, and rebuilding identity
  
   
• 29:30 – Real talk on vulnerability and burnout
  
   
• 36:00 – Leading yourself first before leading others
  
   
• 47:30 – The vision of Next Level Coaching: 1 million transformed leaders
  
   
• 50:00 – Craig’s final charge to the next generation of men
  
   

Craig Whitney – Founder of Next Level Coaching

• Leadership & resilience coach for men
  
   
• Specializes in self-leadership, performance, & identity
  
   
• Mission: Train 1 million men to rebuild from burnout and drift
  
   

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• 💪 Fortitude over fear: How Janice found strength and grace in life’s most difficult moments
  
   
• 🧠 Imposter Syndrome = Inner Misalignment: Why authenticity beats performance every time
  
   
• 🪞 Leadership starts with self-leadership: Leading yourself through journaling, reflection, and awareness
  
   
• 📚 Legacy through story: How Janice turned her life lessons into 5 powerful books
  
   
• 💚 The shift from sales to service: When you lead with heart, people follow
  
   

“Fortitude is the inner strength of knowing who you are, even in the chaos.” – Janice Muir
 

“You don’t know what you don’t know… until you live it or hear it from someone who has.” – Janice Muir
 

“I never asked, ‘Why me?’ Instead, I kept walking. One step, one day, one breath at a time.” – Janice Muir

• 02:49 – Welcome to the Hero Makers Season with Jeff
  
   
• 04:24 – Janice’s life journey: From athletic champion to five-time author
  
   
• 07:19 – Facing hardship: Dementia caregiving, cancer, and character
  
   
• 08:07 – Finding fortitude and inner strength through writing
  
   
• 12:43 – Leading by example: From journaling to legacy building
  
   
• 16:27 – Imposter syndrome and the power of being true to yourself
  
   
• 18:58 – The shift from sales to heart-led service
  
   
• 23:52 – What legacy means to Janice: Books, tapestries, and stories
  
   
• 28:13 – Advice to her 25-year-old self: Trust your higher self
  
   
• 30:35 – Final words: Stay open, go within, and lead from the soul
  
   

Janice Muir

• 🖋️ Author of Let Me Get This Off My Chest, The Vision to Win, Forget Me Not, and more
  
   
• 🧠 Mindset Mentor & Cancer Warrior
  
   

🌐 Website: janicemuir.com

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• 🔥 True leadership is forged in the trenches, not on the stage.
  
   
• 🛠️ Evaluated experience, not just experience, produces wisdom.
  
   
• 👣 Legacy is created through daily, intentional decisions, not grand gestures.
  
   
• 🚫 The villain in leadership is often ego, consumerism, and character neglect.
  
   
• 🌱 You can’t grow a healthy community if you’re not growing as an individual.
  
   

"Your gift might get you on the stage, but your character is what keeps you there." – Jim Burgoon
 

"Legacy isn’t what people say when you die. It’s how you live now that echoes through generations." – Jeffery Ross
 

"Wisdom doesn’t come from experience. It comes from evaluated experience." – Jim Burgoon

• 00:00 – Welcome to Hero Makers Season with Jeff
  
   
• 01:30 – Jim’s Story: From the trenches to transformation
  
   
• 06:15 – The lesson Jim would give his younger self
  
   
• 12:00 – Why many leaders fall (and how to avoid it)
  
   
• 17:00 – The difference between growth & intentional growth
  
   
• 23:30 – Spiritual leadership vs. personal agenda
  
   
• 28:00 – The submarine analogy: internal pressure vs. external collapse
  
   
• 35:00 – Legacy: writing 50 books, raising resilient kids, living for eternity
  
   
• 41:30 – Final words of wisdom: Start small. Be diligent. Be unshakable.
  
   
• 42:50 – Jim’s podcast rebrand: The Unshakable Life
  
   

Jim Burgoon

• Leadership coach, podcaster, faith-driven entrepreneur
  
   
• Founder of The Unshakable Life Podcast
  
   
• Website: leadwithjim.com

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1. The Real Hero Isn’t AI — It’s You.
   AI is a tool, not the answer. YOU are the solution your audience is looking for.
   
    
2. The Power of the HERO Framework.
   Hear → Educate → Reflect → Offer — a simple but profound framework for guiding others through transformation.
   
    
3. Burnout Is a Symptom — Not a Failure.
   Both Jeff and Dave share candid moments of rebuilding after hitting the wall in business.
   
    
4. Don’t Wait to Be Ready — Start With a Burden.
   You don’t need a clear “calling” to begin — start with what breaks your heart.
   
    
5. Season 3 Is a Movement, Not Just a Podcast.
   This season is about legacy, leadership, and leveraging AI without losing your authenticity.
    

“AI isn’t the hero. You’re the hero. AI just helps you scale your story.” — Jeffery Ross

“Clarity doesn’t always come before you start — sometimes it comes because you start.” — Dave Miller

“The goal of HeroMakers isn’t to build followers… It’s to create leaders who build other leaders.” — Jeffery Ross

• [00:00] – Welcome to Season 3: The HeroMakers Vision
  
   
• [04:18] – From Overwhelm to Alignment: The Why Behind This Season
  
   
• [10:45] – What the HERO Framework Really Means
  
   
• [14:00] – Dave’s Confession: When Systems Become Shackles
  
   
• [17:35] – How to Guide Others Without Having All the Answers
  
   
• [21:10] – The Role of Storytelling in Your Business
  
   
• [26:42] – A Challenge for Listeners: Who Are You Becoming?
  
   

• 🎙️ Dave Miller – AI and systems expert, tech integration coach for Laptop Lifestyle Dads
  
   
• 📚 Referenced: Donald Miller’s StoryBrand, John Maxwell’s Law of the Lid, HERO Framework (Jeff + Dave model)
  
   
• 🛠️ Tools Mentioned: ChatGPT, Skool, ClickFunnels
   

💬 Comment “HERO” on Facebook or YouTube if this episode resonated — and Jeff will send you the free HERO Framework Mini Guide 🦸‍♂️

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Main Topics / Takeaways:

• The evolution of Season 2: Unlocking your voice and brand identity
  
   
• Highlights from epic guest episodes and solo insights
  
   
• The Hero Makers theme launching Season 3
  
   
• Why leadership, legacy, and purpose now take center stage
  
   
• The tools (AI, social selling, attraction marketing) vs. the real story (YOU)
  
   

Notable Quotes:

"AI is just a tool — YOU are the real story."
"This isn’t about building content… it’s about building movements."
"We’re not here to escape life — we’re here to come ALIVE."

Key Moments (Timestamps):

• 00:00 – Kangaroo bars, baby! Jeff opens with a freestyle-style spoken word recap
  
   
• 01:30 – Thanking the listeners and reflecting on what Season 2 meant
  
   
• 03:00 – One word that sums up the season: VOICE
  
   
• 05:00 – Episode shoutouts: Johnny Els, Mike Hopp, Dave Miller, Austin Armstrong & more
  
   
• 11:30 – Personal breakthroughs + community wins
  
   
• 14:50 – What’s next: The Hero Makers Era 🔥
  
   
• 17:00 – Season 3 Theme: From Info to Formation
  
   
• 20:00 – An open invitation to be part of the next season
  
   

Featured Guests Recapped in This Episode:

• Johnny Els (Ep 33)
  
   
• Mike Hopp (Ep 25)
  
   
• Dave Miller (Ep 34)
  
   
• Jonathan Mast
  
   
• Austin Armstrong (Ep 8)
  
   
• Dame Doria Cordova
  
   
• Rex Sykes (Ep 5)
  
   
• Denny Walsh (Ep 1)
  
   
• Jane Slack-Smith (Ep 2)
  
   
• DJ, Kylie Thompson, Lauren Nguyen, Sandy Sagralada, Martin Ruoff
  
   

Call-To-Action (CTA):

💥 Subscribe to the podcast on Spotify, Apple, or YouTube

💬 DM Jeff on Facebook or email [email protected] if YOU have a story to share

🎤 Want to be featured in Season 3? Apply now and join the Hero Makers movement

🙌 Share this episode with a mate who’s ready to rise up and lead with their VOICE™

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Main Topics Covered:
 

✅ How Dave went from construction sites to building custom GPTs
 

✅ What AI agents are—and how they’re already changing business
 

✅ How to simplify video prompting using the VEO Prompter GPT
 

✅ Behind the scenes of the LLD 30-Day Sprint & VOICE Framework
 

✅ Future-proofing your skills and mindset in an AI-driven world

Key Moments:

• 01:00 – Jeff’s caffeinated kangaroo freestyle + why this episode is different
  
   
• 03:30 – Dave’s AI origin story & how a 3-day challenge changed everything
  
   
• 09:50 – Breaking down the VEO Prompter GPT & making complex tech simple
  
   
• 19:45 – Dave’s real talk on productivity, prompt engineering, and AI content myths
  
   
• 30:40 – The new era of AI agents and how they’re replacing (and creating) jobs
  
   
• 43:00 – Human-first content, value-led branding & keeping it real in an AI world
  
   
• 56:15 – Why the 30-Day Sprint was created & who it’s for
  
   
• 01:10:00 – What the future holds for AI, search, creativity, and connection
  
   

Guest:
🧠 Dave Miller – AI Strategist, Systems Builder, and Co-Creator of the LLD Academy Custom GPT Suite

Resources Mentioned:

• The VEO 3 Prompt Filter GPT Bundle – $5 Special
  
   
• Join the 30-Day Sprint (Early Bird $199)
  
   
• LLD Academy
  
   
• Facebook Group: Laptop Lifestyle Dads
  
   

Call to Action:
👉 Want to learn how to use AI without losing your voice?
Join Jeff & Dave inside the 30-Day Sprint and build content that actually connects.
🎧 Episode available now on:

• YouTube: Laptop Lifestyle Dads Channel
  
   
• Apple & Spotify
  
   
• LA Tribune Podcast Network
  
   

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1. Formed vs Informed – Why knowledge alone isn't enough; it's about building habits and structure that last.
   
    
2. Fitness With Purpose – How Johnny uses personalized coaching to meet people where they're at, not with cookie-cutter plans.
   
    
3. Faith-Driven Routine – How morning devotionals, nature walks, and service-focused living anchor Johnny’s business and life.
   
    
4. AI + Intimacy – Using AI for insights, but never replacing the human connection in sales, service, or coaching.
   
    
5. Structure = Freedom – Dads who want freedom must create structure like they would for their kids or business.
   
    

“It’s what you do in the dark that puts you in the light.” – Michael Phelps (shared by Johnny)

“A goal without a plan is just a dream. And motion is lotion, mate. Let’s get moving.” – Jeff Ross

“I want to talk to a human being. I want to hear the human behind the answer.” – Johnny Els

• 00:00 – Jeff’s wild dad intro + Johnny’s TrueFit backstory
  
   
• 03:30 – The difference between being formed vs informed
  
   
• 07:50 – Why one-on-one coaching brings deeper transformation
  
   
• 13:20 – How Johnny uses AI for deeper client understanding
  
   
• 16:45 – The future of marketing with AI & human touch
  
   
• 21:00 – Johnny’s daily Laptop Lifestyle routine
  
   
• 24:00 – Best advice for dads: structure is the secret
  
   
• 25:10 – Rapid Fire: tools, AI picks, and dad jokes (lean beef, anyone?)
  
   

• Guest: Johnny Els
  
   
• Website: TrueFit Academy
  
   
• Instagram: @truefitacademy
  
   
• Book: Coming soon via his website!
  
   

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💪 Ready to build fitness and freedom with structure? DM Johnny @truefitacademy and start your journey today.
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• How The 4-Hour Workweek helped spark Michael’s transformation
  
   
• Why social media should be used for genuine connection, not just conversion
  
   
• The mindset shift from sales to service
  
   
• Tips for traveling well (on a budget) and maintaining meaningful relationships
  
   
• The power of trust, clarity, and contribution in building a laptop lifestyle
  
   

“Shut up and demonstrate.”
“Trust is at an all-time low—and clarity is the antidote.”
“A phone charging block is a must.”

• 00:00 – Jeff’s intro + Michael’s backstory
  
   
• 02:57 – How burnout led Michael to pursue nomadism
  
   
• 06:01 – Discovering purpose through movement
  
   
• 09:05 – The shift from ‘Sucksville’ to ‘Awesometown’
  
   
• 11:54 – Using social media as a tool for good
  
   
• 15:14 – Serving instead of selling
  
   
• 17:56 – Navigating relationships while living abroad
  
   
• 21:02 – Michael’s advice for aspiring digital nomads
  
   
• 23:55 – Travel gadgets that make life easier
  
   

Michael Catlow – Purpose-driven digital nomad, coach, speaker, and freedom lifestyle pioneer.

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Feeling stuck in your 9-to-5? Ready to shift from “Sucksville” to “Awesometown”? Tune in and discover how you can create your own freedom lifestyle—starting today. Then tag us @jeffreyross.live with your biggest takeaway!

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