In this episode, Lola sits down with Judy Esber, Money Coach from @hearmefinance. Judy has been featured in Business Insider on her perspectives on ethical investing, not to mention the New York Times for her own money story. In this episode, we discuss her beginnings as a union organizer, and how that led her to becoming a money coach. We also discuss some of the ethical implications of real estate investing, how to get started ethically investing in the stock market with ESGs (environmental, social, and governance funds), student loan cancellation, and overcoming debt as a whole. It is an insightful episode, and one you don't want to miss if you're interested in strengthening your finances and also are thoughtful about the ethical implications of building wealth.