The Legge Up Podcast

In this episode of the Burnout Lab Podcast, host Tevi welcomes Jodi Barrett, founder of KB Stronger, to discuss her transformative journey following burnout. Jodi shares her inspiring story of transitioning from a stay-at-home mom to an entrepreneur during the pandemic, highlighting the challenges and triumphs she faced along the way.

Listeners will hear about Jodi's pivotal "gym moment," where she confronted her feelings of disconnect and realized the need for change in her life. She delves into the pressures women entrepreneurs face and how societal expectations can impact their journeys. Throughout the conversation, Jodi emphasizes the importance of self-awareness and resilience in navigating life after burnout.

The episode also explores practical strategies for recovery, including grounding techniques such as gratitude journaling and physical movement. Jodi's candid reflections on her experiences provide valuable insights for anyone feeling stuck or overwhelmed.

Join Tevi and Jodi as they celebrate the strength found in vulnerability and the incredible transformations that can arise from even the toughest experiences. Whether you're on your own recovery journey or simply curious about the process, this episode promises to be enlightening and empowering.

Introduction

Welcome back to the Burnout Lab, and welcome to our final episode of Season 1! In honour of Mother’s Day this month, we're closing out the season with a special guest—my mom. We began the season with her, and it's only fitting we end it the same way. Today, we’ll discuss how motherhood has evolved over the years and what changes might be contributing to burnout. Plus, we'll share some funny comparisons between parenting in the '80s and now. Thanks for joining me again, Mom—you were a hit on the first episode!

Motherhood Then vs. Now

We discuss information overload, and how it affects moms today. In comparison, the '80s parents had limited sources of information—parenting books and advice from friends. Cheryl shares how, as a nurse, she had an edge, but even she had to navigate with what was available. Today, we have Google, AI, and countless online resources, which can be both helpful and overwhelming. We talk about this constant influx of information and how it adds stress, even as it helps us make informed decisions. Cheryl reflects on her experiences, noting that while information was limited back then, parents leaned on each other for advice and had to advocate for their children just as fiercely.

Modern Burnout Factors

We chat about overscheduling as a major issue today. Every activity is planned and structured, leaving little room for spontaneous play. This constant scheduling leads to burnout for both parents and kids. In the '80s, many parents found better balance by scaling back when activities became too much. Cheryl shares her strategy for ensuring extracurricular activities never became too demanding in their home.

Technology and Downtime

Cheryl recalls how unstructured downtime had its downsides even for her as a child, but today’s screen time issues are different. We discuss the ups and downs of kids having excessive free time and how technology adds another modern challenge. While it offers convenience and information, it can lead to non-productive behaviors and expose kids to harmful content, which contributes to parent's desire to over-schedule their kids.

Advice for Modern Parents

Cheryl offers heartfelt advice for parents feeling burnt out and overwhelmed, including giving yourself grace. Don’t be afraid to apologize to your kids when you make mistakes. It teaches them resilience and the importance of moving past errors. Kids are adaptable and resilient. They don’t need to be scheduled into every activity to thrive. Sometimes, less is more. Focus on what your kids truly enjoy and let them have a more carefree childhood. Reflect on your parenting wins, celebrate them, and let your kids see you do it too.

Closing and Call to Action

Thanks so much, Mom, for sharing your wisdom with us today. I know many listeners will take away valuable insights. You did an awesome job as a parent—don’t ever beat yourself up.

To all our listeners, thank you for joining us for Season 1 of the Burnout Lab. Don't forget to subscribe so you don’t miss out on future episodes. Let's keep the conversation going in the comments and on social media—share your thoughts on how parenting has changed, how you avoid burnout as a parent, and what you've learned from today's discussions.

See you in Season 2, and remember to live life lit! 🔥

Introduction

Hey there Burnout Lab listeners! Buckle up for an intriguing ride as we dive into the controversial "Trad Wife" trend in our Mother’s Day series. In this episode, we’ll unpack the complexities and implications of this movement with special guest Courtney Mihalicz. Stemming from a resurgence of interest in traditional gender roles, particularly in domestic spheres, the "Trad Wife" phenomenon has sparked heated debates about feminism, social media, and the pursuit of simplicity in modern life.

Exploring the Trend

Courtney and Tevi embark on an exploration of the "Trad Wife" trend, tracing its roots to the idealized gender roles of the mid-20th century. From extreme manifestations to more subtle adaptations, they dissect the various facets of this movement and its portrayal on social media platforms. Through candid conversations, they uncover the underlying motivations and challenges faced by individuals drawn to this lifestyle, shedding light on its implications for personal fulfillment and societal progress.

Challenging Assumptions

Courtney and Tevi challenge the status quo surrounding the "Trad Wife" trend. Is embracing traditional gender roles truly empowering, or is it a step backward? They break down stereotypes and question the intersection of feminism and traditionalism. With a healthy dose of skepticism and a touch of humor, they unravel the complexities of modern motherhood and urge listeners to prioritize self-care and authenticity over the urge to buckle to societal pressures. Through thought-provoking discussions, they advocate for a nuanced understanding of modern motherhood and the pursuit of fulfillment on one's own terms.

Final Thoughts

As we wrap up this enlightening conversation, Tevi and Courtney leave us with some food for thought. In a world obsessed with extremes (like the recent commencement speech from Kansas City Chiefs kicker - Harrison Butker) , they're advocating for balance and self-acceptance. Whether you're a full-time hustler or a proud couch potato, it's all good. Remember, happiness comes in many forms, and there's no one-size-fits-all approach to fulfillment. If you feel a change is required on your part to avoid the burnout trap, that’s ok, but you don’t have to become a completely different person in the process. Don’t buckle to societal extremes – find your happy medium.

Closing

Thank you, Courtney, for joining me today. I'd love to keep the conversation going in the comments and embrace the diverse perspectives on this “Trad Wife” trend. Share your thoughts with us! Until next time, stay true to yourself, keep prioritizing your well-being, and live life lit! 🔥

Introduction

Welcome back to the Burnout Lab! As we celebrate Mother's Day this May, we're kicking off another insightful mini-series focused on the evolving landscape of modern motherhood. Join us as we delve into some fascinating trends and insights shaping parenting styles and family dynamics in 2024. From celebrating small victories to embracing retro aesthetics, we're here to explore how these trends might contribute to or alleviate the burnout experienced by many moms today.

Summary

In this introductory episode, we explore six top motherhood trends gaining momentum in 2024. From "Inchstones" to "Gentle Parenting Names," parents are redefining traditional approaches to child-rearing. We discuss the emergence of practices like Elimination Communication and the shift towards reduced "Sharenting," highlighting both their merits and potential pitfalls. Through candid conversation, we reflect on how these trends intersect with the realities of modern parenthood and their impact on maternal well-being.

Closing

Stay tuned this month as we dive deeper into the world of modern motherhood, unpacking trends, navigating burnout, and sharing laughs along the way. From insightful interviews to lighthearted discussions, we're excited to embark on this journey with you. Stay tuned for our next episode, where we'll explore the intriguing trend of the "Traditional Wife." Until then, take care, and remember to live life lit. 🔥 See you on the next episode!

Introduction

Welcome back to the Burnout Lab! Today, we have the incredible Shahzia Noorally joining us for a deep dive into the complex intersections of burnout, patriarchy, inequality, and inclusion. Shahzia, an equity and inclusion practitioner, shares her insights and experiences navigating these critical issues in the workplace.

Guest Introduction

Shahzia introduces herself as a passionate advocate for equity and inclusion, both in her professional role and within her community. With a focus on empowering marginalized voices, Shahzia's work and podcast, "The Equity Gap," shed light on race, gender, and other dimensions of identity in the workplace. As a first/second generation Pakistani Muslim woman, Shahzia brings a unique perspective to our conversation.

Identifying Key Factors in Burnout

Delving into the root causes of burnout, Shahzia highlights the pervasive influence of white supremacy culture in perpetuating urgency, perfectionism, and a lack of space for vulnerability. She underscores the disproportionate impact on marginalized individuals, particularly women of color, who often face heightened expectations and systemic barriers in male-dominated industries.

Addressing Unconscious Bias and Systemic Change

Shifting the focus to unconscious bias, Shahzia emphasizes the importance of challenging ingrained stereotypes and fostering environments conducive to authentic dialogue and inclusivity. By confronting bias at its core and championing data-driven policies, organizations can create meaningful change and promote equity at all levels.

Leadership, Authenticity, and Vulnerability

Exploring the role of leadership in fostering inclusivity, Shahzia advocates for authentic, vulnerable leadership that prioritizes empathy and understanding. By creating safe spaces for employees to express their needs and experiences, leaders can cultivate a culture of trust and support, ultimately enhancing overall well-being and productivity.

Reimagining Work Structures and Policies

Reflecting on the need for flexible work structures, Shahzia and I discuss the benefits of unconventional approaches that prioritize individual needs and reduce decision fatigue. From reevaluating traditional 9-5 models to embracing remote work options, organizations can empower employees to thrive while honoring their diverse responsibilities and identities.

Driving Meaningful Change

As the conversation concludes, Shahzia emphasizes the importance of taking actionable steps towards systemic change. By listening to marginalized voices, challenging microaggressions, and advocating for inclusive policies, individuals can contribute to a more equitable and supportive workplace culture.

Closing Remarks

In closing, Shahzia highlights the compounding impact of small actions and the importance of validating and believing the experiences of marginalized individuals. By acknowledging the systemic barriers and committing to meaningful change, we can create workplaces where everyone feels valued, heard, and empowered to succeed.

Final Thoughts

Thank you, Shahzia Noorally, for sharing your invaluable insights and perspectives with us today. Your dedication to equity and inclusion serves as an inspiration to us all, and we look forward to continuing this important conversation in the future. To learn more about Shahzia's work and podcast, visit her website here and connect with her on LinkedIn. Stay tuned for more transformative discussions on burnout, equity, and resilience. Together, we can drive positive change and build a more just and inclusive world. Until next time, live life lit!

Advocacy and Solidarity in the Workplace - Dr. Golnaz Golnaraghi

Accelerate Her Future™

Introduction

Today on the Burnout Lab, we're thrilled to welcome Katrina Neil to the podcast. Katrina, co-founder of Key Grip Virtual, brings a wealth of experience and insights to our conversation, from her entrepreneurial journey to her dedication to advocating for disability awareness and equal access. As a self-proclaimed "recovering perfectionist" and devoted mother, Katrina's perspective on balancing multiple roles and navigating burnout promises to be both enlightening and empowering.

Guest Introduction

Katrina shares her journey, emphasizing her commitment to living beyond stereotypes and embracing imperfection. As a driven professional turned entrepreneur and devoted family woman, she's passionate about challenging societal norms and empowering others to prioritize their well-being amidst the pressures of modern life.

Recognizing Burnout

Katrina reflects on her experiences with burnout, recognizing the signs of exhaustion and internal turmoil that accompanied her relentless pursuit of perfection. From meticulously planning her days to feeling overwhelmed and depleted, she shares how burnout gradually infiltrated her life, impacting her creativity, relationships, and overall sense of well-being.

Entrepreneurship and Motherhood

Transitioning to entrepreneurship while navigating motherhood, Katrina explores the unique challenges and pressures faced by working moms. Balancing the demands of running a business, advocating for her special needs son, and nurturing her family, she acknowledges the isolation and self-imposed expectations that often accompany these roles.

Aha! Moments and Self-Reflection

Katrina discusses her journey of self-discovery and the pivotal moments that prompted her to reassess her priorities. Recognizing the toll that burnout was taking on her family and her own well-being, she shares how she shifted her mindset, embracing imperfection and prioritizing self-care.

Navigating Parenthood and Work

Reflecting on the intersection of parenthood and work, Katrina emphasizes the importance of setting boundaries and recognizing one's limitations. From advocating for her son to reassessing her work-life balance, she shares practical strategies for managing the pressures of entrepreneurship and parenting.

Embracing Imperfection and Seeking Support

Katrina challenges the notion of "doing it all" and encourages listeners to seek support when needed. From outsourcing tasks to surrounding oneself with a supportive network, she highlights the importance of prioritizing self-care and finding joy in life's moments.

Moving Beyond Societal Expectations

Katrina and I discuss the societal pressures that burden women with unrealistic expectations, urging listeners to define success on their own terms. From challenging stereotypes to prioritizing personal fulfillment, they emphasize the importance of living authentically and embracing one's unique journey.

In closing, I commend Key Grip Virtual for its invaluable resources and support for entrepreneurs seeking to navigate burnout and work smarter. Katrina shares her top recommendations for avoiding burnout, emphasizing the importance of continuous learning, outsourcing tasks, and surrounding oneself with a supportive community.

Final Thoughts

As I reflect on my own journey out of burnout and celebrate that I have found my help through Katrina and her team, and I have found my happy, I think it’s important to acknowledge that I am still prone to burnout and need to keep a close eye on all we have discussed today. With Katrina's insights and practical advice, we can all be empowered to be ok with imperfection, set boundaries, and find joy in our journeys. We can all be empowered to live life lit! 🔥

Introduction

Welcome back to the Burnout Lab. Today we have the pleasure of hosting the remarkable Carol Shmygol, whose wealth of experience and insight promises an enriching conversation. Carol, a retired professional with 35 years in brand strategy and marketing, shares her journey, reflections, and invaluable wisdom in navigating burnout, gender dynamics, and resilience.

Carol’s Introduction and Career Journey

Carol introduces herself, highlighting her diverse roles and passions both in her career and retirement. From coaching and mentoring to pursuing creative endeavors, Carol epitomizes a life lived on one’s own terms. As we delve into her insights, Carol’s multifaceted perspective offers profound lessons in balancing professional success with personal fulfillment.

The Evolution of Burnout and Societal Expectations

Reflecting on the prevalence of burnout, we explore societal shifts and evolving expectations over the past decades. We discuss the importance of naming and acknowledging burnout, empowering individuals to recognize and address their own experiences for what they truly are. From the impact of social media to the internal pressure of perfectionism, Carol emphasizes the need for self-compassion amid societal pressures.

Navigating Gender Dynamics and Self-Identity

Drawing from our experiences in male-dominated industries, Carol and I dissect the challenges of conforming to traditional gender norms and expectations. We discuss the subtle yet pervasive influence of the patriarchy on workplace dynamics and personal identity, urging women to embrace their authentic selves and redefine success on their own terms.

Lessons on Resilience and Self-Compassion

Carol shares her insights on resilience as we challenge the notion of “bouncing back” quicky from adversity. With a focus on self-compassion and curiosity, Carol advocates for a paradigm shift in how we navigate challenges and support one another. From person anecdotes to societal observations, Carol’s wisdom inspires a compassionate approach to self-growth.

Embracing Curiosity and Authenticity

Encouraging listeners to reclaim their innate curiosity, Carol and I explore the transformative power of asking questions and embracing vulnerability. We discuss the importance of creating space for genuine curiosity and authentic self-expression, fostering a culture of empathy, understanding, and growth.

Parting Wisdom and Closing Remarks

As our conversation ends, Carol offers profound insights and parting wisdom to our listeners. Emphasizing the value of finding joy and purpose in one’s work, she encourages listeners to prioritize fulfillment and authenticity in their professional and personal lives. No one truly leaves it at the office at the end of the day, and life is too short to hate what you’re bringing home every day.

Conclusion

Thank you, Carol, for sharing your wisdom, grace and passion with us today. Your journey and insights offer a beacon of hope and inspiration for listeners navigating their own paths in life. As we continue to explore the intersections of burnout, resilience, and self-discovery, may we all find the courage to embrace curiosity, authenticity, and compassion for one another in our journey toward holistic well-being.

Stay tuned for more transformative conversations here at the Burnout Lab, and remember, you too can live life lit! 🔥

Books referenced:

Lessons in Chemistry by Bonnie Garmus

A More Beautiful Question by Warren Berger

Trigger warning: infertility and pregnancy loss.

Introduction

Welcome back to the Burnout Lab. We’re here for part 2 of our conversation with the incredible Dani Strang. If you haven’t listened to part 1 yet, (When Pushing Through the “Burnout” Pain isn’t an Option), I recommend you check that one out first. We left off with a bit of a cliff hanger in episode 20, and we can’t wait to pick the story back up here as we continue our conversation on infertility, pregnancy loss, burnout, and the transformative power of vulnerability.

Unveiling Survival Strategies

Dani opens up about her decision to step back and take a pause on her pregnancy journey, revealing it as a survival strategy born from a place of overwhelming stress. She reflects on the suppression and lack of healing in this choice, shedding light on the complexities of navigating burnout amidst life’s challenges.

Navigating Pregnancy Amidst Burnout

Amidst the turmoil, Dani experiences the joyous surprise of pregnancy, albeit tinged with anxiety and stress. She candidly shares the pressures at work, the internal struggle between career focus and impending motherhood, and the courageous decision she made to prioritize her own well-being.

The Struggle of Overcompensation

Dani and I discuss the tendency to overcompensate in the face of pregnancy, striving to prove competence despite the physical and emotional challenges. We delve into the tension between visibility and understanding, and the toll it takes on both mental health and pregnancy.

The Power of Storytelling and Vulnerability

Storytelling emerges as a powerful tool for connection and healing. Dani highlights the transformative potential of vulnerability in safe spaces, emphasizing the courage it takes to speak from the heart and share authentic experiences. We explore Brene Brown’s concept of courage, and the revolutionary potential of making space for vulnerable conversations for both men and women.

Postpartum Realities and Career Loss

Dani reflects on postpartum depression compounded by the loss of her career role, acknowledging feelings of betrayal and self-betrayal. She unveils the ‘better not’ reflex ingrained in women, urging for intentional practices to rewire neurological responses and foster self-expression.

Creating Spaces for Thriving

Our conversation culminates in a call to action for creating spaces where ideas, perspectives, and feelings can be shared and celebrated. Dani introduces us to Maggie, a platform dedicated to fostering deliberate conversations and celebrating diverse voices, paving the way for transformative change.

Closing Thoughts

As we conclude this enlightening discussion, I extend heartfelt gratitude to Dani Strang for her invaluable insights and unwavering courage to share her vulnerable moments. Let’s continue to support each other, nurturing spaces for vulnerability, and celebrating the diverse narratives that shape our journey through burnout and beyond. Together, we thrive! Until next time, honour your true self, keep the conversation going, and live life lit! 🔥

Final Remarks

I know our listeners will want to hear so much more from Dani, and we will all be virtually lined up to support her as Maggie officially launches. Thank you, Dani, for your advice, wisdom, and remarkable insights and for being here on the podcast. Keep doing what you’re doing. We need you, we need Maggie, and we can’t wait to celebrate with you. For those who are wondering where to find and read more about this idea of vulnerability in safe spaces, check out the six podcast episodes on the Maggie website under the docuseries tab at Joinmaggie.org.

Trigger warning: infertility and pregnancy loss.

Introduction

Join us for an enlightening conversation with Dani Strang, CEO of Maggie, as we delve into the complexities of career sacrifice, pregnancy loss, and the neurological pathways that stifle women's voices and lead to burnout. In this episode, Dani shares her deeply personal journey and insights, shedding light on the systemic suppression of women's voices and the profound impact of the "Better Not" reflex.

Connection and Synergy

Dani and my serendipitous connection through LinkedIn sets the stage for this powerful dialogue. Dani introduces Maggie, a private cohort-based community designed to help women dismantle harmful neurological pathways, born out of her own burnout story, highlighting the shared experiences of women navigating career challenges and voice suppression. They reflect on the subtle yet pervasive societal norms that shape women's communication patterns and self-expression.

The Sacrifice of Self

Examining the toll of career advancement on personal identity, Dani defines her first 15 years in her career as her one-way ticket to the loss of sense of self unveiling the hidden sacrifices women make to attain success. From internalized expectations to societal pressures, they explore the erosion of selfhood amidst professional pursuits. Sharing a personal story from her time in university, she reveals how data from our experiences stays with us to create an inner rhetoric.

Trauma, Stress, and the “Better Not” Reflex

Drawing parallels between everyday stressors, or little ‘t’ traumas vs. big ‘T’ traumas, Dani reveals the impact little ‘t’ stressors can have when compounded over time. She discusses the physiological responses to chronic stress and the insidious nature of self-doubt based on past experience that create the “Better Not” reflex in women.

Navigating Pregnancy Loss and Workplace Dynamics

Dani courageously shares her deeply person experiences of pregnancy loss within the context of career uncertainty and workplace expectations. From concealing personal struggles for fear of their impact to managing professional responsibilities under great duress, she unveils the emotional complexity of balancing vulnerability with societal norms.

Redefining Resilience and Acknowledging Realities

We talk about challenging the conventional definition of resilience, emphasizing the societal pressures for women to “bounce back” quickly from adversity. We discuss the pervasive culture of hustle, and the unspoken burdens women carry, calling for a reevaluation of resilience in a nuanced and more compassionate light.

Closing

This compelling discussion is just the beginning of our journey toward understanding and healing. Join us in for the continuation of our conversation with Dani, where we will continue to explore the complexities of navigating career and identity as women in the workplace. Until then, remember that your voice matters, and you are not alone in your experiences. Together we can dismantle the “Better not” reflex and empower women to reclaim their true voice. Together, we can live life lit. 🔥

A heartfelt thanks to Dani Strang for her openness, wisdom, and dedication to fostering meaningful change. To those who may be navigating similar challenges, we extend empathy and solidarity.

Introduction

Hey listeners! Welcome back to another deep dive in our Educator Series. I’ve got two fabulous guests today – Crystal and Kelly Jo, seasoned educators and parents with two decades of experience each. Join us for an open and honest chat as we explore the challenges educators face and what it means to advocate for our teachers.

Getting to Know Our Guests

Meet Kelly Jo, an educator for over 20 years, mom of two, and partnered with another educator. Crystal, mom to three teenage boys, has been friends with yours truly for a cool decade. These two are a dynamic teaching duo, supporting each other in and out of the classroom.

Nurturing Duality

Kelly Jo sets the stage by highlighting the importance of acknowledging diverse perspectives and experiences. In an era of polarization, understanding that everyone’s viewpoint is valid fosters a healthy dialogue. The duo advocates for open conversations and the acceptance of duality.

Broken Education System

Crystal dives into her perspective of Alberta’s education system, expressing concern about its cracks and lack of government support. As a parent of three kids navigating the system, she sheds light on the systemic challenges affecting both students and educators.

Changing Landscape Since COVID

Our guests note a shift in how teachers are perceived post-Covid. While fortunate to work in a positive environment, they acknowledge the pressures of societal expectations, rapid pace, and the changing curriculum, with teachers being excluded from the important decisions being made.

Parent-Teacher Partnerships

Crystal reflects on the change in perspective she had pre- and post-parenthood. She emphasizes the need for teachers and parents to partner together rather than harbour judgement. The conversation touches on unrealistic expectations, the constant busyness of kids, and the societal pressure on both parents and educators.

Teacher’s Double Lives

We delve into the teacher’s demanding dual role – the emotional connection with students and their families, coupled with societal expectations. The hosts reflect on how teachers are often pulled into multiple roles, including parenting, social work, and basic needs provision, creating an intricate web of responsibilities.

Balancing Expectations

Tevi shares her realization about parents shifting blame to teachers when issues arise, contributing to burnout. The conversation calls for a shift in expectations, where parents allow kids to make mistakes, learn from them, and grow as individuals.

Authentic Living

The hosts discuss burnout as a misalignment between one’s inner self and external presentation. They explore the impact of social media, societal pressures, and the importance of letting kids live authentically rather than driving them toward the things they as parents love.

Gratitude and Advocacy

Despite the challenges, the hosts emphasize the love for their jobs and children. They stress the need for parents to appreciate the holistic caretakers are providing. Advocacy, they assert, is a joint responsibility of parents and educators.

Preventing Burnout

Crystal and Kelly Jo share their personal strategies to prevent burnout – setting boundaries, seeking counseling, and making time for self-care. The hosts recognize the challenges and acknowledge the importance of ongoing efforts to find balance.

Conclusion

A massive shout out to Crystal and Kelly Jo for joining me on this episode. This conversation was self-care for us all just to debrief and have someone to talk to. Thank you for opening my eyes to the job we have as parents to advocate for our educators. They’re bringing up the next generations and we should care, and they should show that we care! Let’s step up and do our part!

Until next time, go out and live your life lit! 🔥