Dean Kelly Brown Douglas speaks with Sarah Azaransky, Assistant Professor of Social Ethics at Union Theological Seminary and the author of "The Dream Is Freedom: Pauli Murray and American Democratic Faith".

They discuss the life and theology of Pauli Murray, the activist, lawyer, and Episcopal priest. They dive into the pivotal role Murray played in the American civil rights movement, and explore her legal career where she was an outspoken champion for protesting discrimination based on race and sex.