In this episode, Brandon talks with New York Times bestselling author, public theologian, preacher, and founder of Sojourners, The Rev’d Jim Wallis. Their conversation explores the theological implications of authoritarianism, new frames for understanding church unity, and the difference between optimism and hope.

Host: Brandon Nappi

Guest: Jim Wallis

Production: Goodchild Media

Music: Wayfaring Stranger, Theodicy Jazz Collective

Art: E. Landino

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Futurist and Berkeley Divinity at Yale alum Rachel Hatch (‘08) joins Brandon and Hannah for a conversation about how to look for signals of change within our own parishes and communities as we make thoughtful choices for the future. In this episode, Rachel encourages leaders to cultivate a practice of imagining possibilities and taking steps toward hope-filled futures, while still addressing the urgencies of the present.

Hannah has news, and you have new friends! Tune in to meet guest hosts Whitney and Misty as they join Brandon in interviewing Hannah for our season finale. Why is Gregory of Nyssa’s take on salvation so different from what Hannah heard in church growing up? Are there risks in the regular ways we talk about Christian salvation? How did feminist theology help her untangle all of this? How much can we know or talk about God? And why is wonder, an antidote to certainty, so important? Listen to find out.

Hosts: Brandon Nappi, Whitney Kimball Coe, and Misty Krasawski

Guest: Hannah Black

Production: Goodchild Media

Music: Wayfaring Stranger, Theodicy Jazz Collective

Art: E. Landino

Instagram: @theleadersway.podcast

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The penultimate episode of season 4 is here, and it's with someone we know you'll love, @bishopmello of @episcopal_ct!! Tune in to hear about how Jeff Mello's experience in social work impacts his ministry, how a posture of curiosity and willingness to fail are key, and at the very end, hear all about Bishop Jeff Mello as a person when we play our new favorite game: Holy Cow!

Join co-hosts Brandon Nappi and Hannah Black in an engaging episode of The Leaders Way as they sit down with Linn Tonstad, Professor of Theology, Religion, and Sexuality at Yale Divinity School. In this episode, Tonstad shares her unique perspective on queer theology and how it relates to potential for social transformation. Perfect for Pride Month, this episode challenges us to envision a world with "a little less violence."

Hosts: Brandon Nappi and Hannah Black

Guest: Linn Tonstad

Production: Goodchild Media

Music: Wayfaring Stranger, Theodicy Jazz Collective

Art: E. Landino

Instagram: @theleadersway.podcast

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Dean Andrew McGowan joins us to further unpack shifting dynamics, changing landscapes, and the future after addressing the topic at the Episcopal Parish Network (EPN) conference. McGowan describes his observations of Australian secularization and how he sees similar dynamics arising in the United States. We talk about why church attendance is changing, the difference between hope and optimism, and consumer capitalism's effect on church dynamics. After a rich conversation, we play our signature game, Holy Cow!, and learn McGowan's opinion on THE best bread for the Eucharist.

See the EPN talk here: https://youtu.be/5MJmTGvn6y4?si=HyfwtXe_nPI0Nmc5

Hosts: Brandon Nappi and Hannah Black

Guest: Andrew McGowan

Production: Goodchild Media

Music: Wayfaring Stranger, Theodicy Jazz Collective

Art: E. Landino

Instagram: @theleadersway.podcast

berkeleydivinity.yale.edu/podcast

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THE Father Lizzie is back on The Leader's Way podcast, talking about her new devotional God Didn't Make Us to Hate Us. We talk about the alternative to "billboard Christianity" and how an expansive, inclusive God affects individual spirituality and corporate worship in church.

Finally, the Golden Retriever Games are back, baby. Stay 'till the end for "Holy or Horror?"

https://bookshop.org/contributors/lizzie-mcmanus-dail

Hosts: Brandon Nappi and Hannah Black

Guest: Lizzie McManus-Dail

Production: Goodchild Media

Music: Wayfaring Stranger, Theodicy Jazz Collective

Art: E. Landino

Instagram: @theleadersway.podcast

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Yale Divinity School Professor Teresa Morgan shares her expertise about the Greek word “pistis,” often translated in the New Testament as “faith.” The conversation revolves around faith, trust, and faithfulness and touches on the importance of a nuanced understanding of atonement theology. Brandon challenges Morgan and Black to “Gregory or Gregory?” Tune in for an enlightening discussion that bridges the gap between ancient texts and modern faith.

Hosts: Brandon Nappi and Hannah Black

Guest: Teresa Morgan

Production: Goodchild Media

Music: Wayfaring Stranger, Theodicy Jazz Collective

Art: E. Landino

Instagram: @theleadersway.podcast berkeleydivinity.yale.edu/podcast

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The Rev'd John Burruss (The Leader's Way ’23 Fellow) and the Rev'd Mary Bea Sullivan join hosts Hannah Black and Brandon Nappi to tell the story of the Threshold Center, a vibrant space designed to address loneliness and foster connection in Birmingham, Alabama. Born from a tragic event in the life of St. Stephen's Episcopal Church, the Threshold Center nurtures well-being and connection by engaging practices of the heart, body, and imagination through innovative programs like trauma-informed yoga, listening as an act of love, and peace through poetry. This episode offers rich insights into the power of collaboration, creativity, and radical hospitality.

https://www.thethresholdcenter.org/

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Hosts: Brandon Nappi and Hannah Black Guests: The Rev'd John Burruss and the Rev'd Mary Bea Sullivan

Production: Goodchild Media

Music: Wayfaring Stranger, Theodicy Jazz Collective

Art: E. Landino

Instagram: @theleadersway.podcast

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Bishop Graham Kings, Honorary Assistant Bishop in the Diocese of Ely and Research Associate of the Cambridge Centre for Christianity Worldwide, joins us to delve into the possibilities of engaging creativity in ministry. We discuss the power of collaboration with artists, crafting liturgical celebrations, his project on women in the Bible, how to start a Beer and Theology gathering, traveling from Oxford to Cambridge by camel, a surprise meeting with Prince Philip and Desmond Tutu in 1999, and the centrality of mission.

Host: Hannah Black

Guest: Bishop Graham Kings

Production: Goodchild Media

Music: Wayfaring Stranger, Theodicy Jazz Collective

Art: E Landino

Instagram: @theleadersway.podcast

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