In this episode of the Lifting While Climbing podcast, Athena CEO Holly Smithson sits down with Claude Jones, CEO of Do It With AI, for a powerful, perspective-shifting conversation about what it really means to lead with AI.
Together, they explore how fear-based narratives around artificial intelligence are stalling progress—and how shaping AI, rather than reacting to it, is the key to ethical innovation, equity, and future-ready leadership.
“We’re not just teaching people how to use AI—we’re preparing them to shape it.”
— Claude Jones
Key Takeaways:
Why AI isn’t just a tech trend—it’s a leadership shift
How co-creating with AI unlocks creativity, efficiency, and purpose
Why soft skills like empathy and communication are now mission-critical in the AI era
How Athena’s AI Mastery Academy is transforming fear into fluency—one cohort at a time
One of the most striking moments from the conversation came when Claude described today’s challenge:
“The best sword in the world in the hands of a novice is no more functional than a wet noodle.
That’s what’s happening with AI right now—we’re giving people the most powerful tool humanity has ever created, but we’re not teaching them how to become expert swordsmen.”
Athena’s response?
The AI Mastery Academy—a 3-week, hands-on leadership experience launching September 15, designed to build practical fluency, ethical awareness, and human-centered AI confidence.
Tune in and discover how Athena is flipping fear into power—and helping STEM leaders shape a future worth leading.