The Liminalist: The Podcast Between

The Liminalist: The Podcast Between

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The Liminalist: The Podcast Between episodes

  • The Liminalist # 212: The Hollywood Hook-Worm (with The Skrauss)

    Return conversation with The Skrauss, on the superculture & the Hollywood heart of darkness.


    Part One: Movable Darkness (0 – 27 mins)


    Jasun in the UK, the new book, the Hollywood spell, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, Charles Manson, Roman Polanski, TV-programmed killers, innocents in Hollywood, David Fincher’s disinfo delivery device, Marlon Brando’s contempt, parallels between Polanski & Jeffrey Epstein, Epstein’s sex slaves, Epstein’s death, the iceberg of superculture, Polanski’s admission, Victor Frykowski & the Polish drug scene, the MDMA project, Polanski’s baby, Sydney Korshack, Robert Evans, & the Hollywood mob clique, the real bad guy, the Charles Watson murders, moving the darkness


    Part Two: The Business of Superculture (27 – 57 mins)


    A big show, Susan Atkins’ mob lawyers, inventing Helter Skelter, developing paranoid awareness, Sharon’s baby, researching satanism, Anton LaVey’s rumor, the Hollywood matrix, the business of superculture, predators procedure, starlets & crack whores, blow jobs for bit parts, the lure of illusion, breaking the addiction, developing conscious choice, the theater of cruelty, a dark space, Plato’s cave, a light in darkness, surrogate religion, divine intervention, the danger of self-rejection, Montaigne, the trap of condemnation, drinking & the unconscious, the flip-side of The Blood Poets, a body of evidence, Tarantino & toxicity.


    Part Three: A Satanic Infection (57 mins – 1 hr 25 mins)


    The reviews, Harvey Weinstein, the liberal cluckers, Tarantino’s cunning, George Hodel & the Black Dahlia murders, the gloaters, Man Ray, surrealism & serial murder, the roots of Dadaism, Artaud, transcendence thru transgression, theater & animal sacrifice, nefarious connections, a satanic infection, the shapers of culture, firing into a crowd, ways of extraction, the parasite, Dave Oshana’s enlightenment, removing the trauma implant, the machinery of implantation, brain damage, Kirk Douglas the rapist, a dream of being retard, the life of a saint, the physicality of imagination.


    Part Four: The Baby in the Bathwater (1 hr 25 mins – end)


    The function of imagination, a hidden aspect of reality, imagining God, metaphors & images, experience & understanding, Oshana’s maxim, the mind’s creation, the cinema of sleep, the underlying agenda, the Luciferian challenge, Steiner’s model of imagination, imagining the workings of the divine, sovereign self-expression, disidentifying with the artist, physical & mental activities, an epiphany with hardware, the baby in the bathwater of satanism, the limitations of Saturn, the ambition to be competent, becoming a plumber, making sure the physical universe functions, makers of culture, an art world conundrum, the fight between art & crafts.


    Songs: “The Same Thing” by Nobody’s Business; “PTSD Blues” by Ex Luna; “My Ground Brakes Crank” by Tendon Levey, “Heart of Stone” by the Raveonettes.

    1 hr 52 min
  • The Liminalist # 211b: Zones of Encounter (with John Cussans)
    Second part of conversation with John Cussans Part One: The Game of Othering (0 – 20 mins) Breaking the pattern of secrecy, Jonathan Lethem , Phillip K. Dick, & the game of othering, zones of encounter, the unavowable community, turning a page in a Dick book, mirror neurons, affinity groups, unfinished articulations, kindred spirits, sleepers ... Read moreThe Liminalist # 211b: Zones of Encounter (with John Cussans)
    1 hr 7 min
  • The Liminalist # 211b: Zones of Encounter (with John Cussans)

    Second part of conversation with John Cussans


    Part One: The Game of Othering (0 - 20 mins)


    Breaking the pattern of secrecy, Jonathan Lethem , Phillip K. Dick, & the game of othering, zones of encounter, the unavowable community, turning a page in a Dick book, mirror neurons, affinity groups, unfinished articulations, kindred spirits, sleepers on a mission, getting established, Erik Davis, betraying secrets.


    Part Two: Working on A Mystery (20 mins - 45 mins)


    Undead Uprising, an insurrectionary grimoire, politics of academia, Foucault’s neo-gnostic conspiracy, antichristian Marxism, fear of blacklisting, the occult rabbit hole, accelerated coincidence, the ancestral, George Hodel & the Black Dahlia, meaningful anomalies, working on a mystery, Man Ray, art & murder, dead fashion girl, criminals and royals.


    Part Three: Society of the Spectacle (45 mins to end)


    Hollywood occult conspiracy, Frankfurt School, society of the spectacle, a red pill moment, cultural Marxism, a dialogue about control, Room 237, levels of over-reading, an ideology-free zone, a parallel dimension to the ideological battleground, CIA-promoting Foucault, Walter Benjamin, cannabis & Satanism promotion,


    John Cussan's site


    Songs: “Knob Wobbler,” by Gib Strange;  "Rains of May," by The Raveonettes; "No means No," by The Freak Fandango Orchestra; “These Words” by Hazelwood Motel.

    1 hr 7 min
  • The Liminalist # 211a: The Occult Conspiracy of the Unconscious (with John Cussans)
    Two-part Conversation with John Cussans Part One: Drug Cult Cartel Magic (0 – 29 mins) Mexico, the witchcraft center, the Narcosatánicos, encounters with occult forces, psyops in Hollywood, tabloid journalism, The Believers, Mexican magic, Maximon & Baron Samedi, the Mayan death god, drug cult cartel magic, Breaking Bad, Jesus Malverde, sorcery or Hollywood, Santiago Atitlan, ... Read moreThe Liminalist # 211a: The Occult Conspiracy of the Unconscious (with John Cussans)
    1 hr 27 min
  • The Liminalist # 211a: The Occult Conspiracy of the Unconscious (with John Cussans)

    Two-part Conversation with John Cussans


    Part One: Drug Cult Cartel Magic (0 – 29 mins)


    Mexico, the witchcraft center, the Narcosatánicos, encounters with occult forces, psyops in Hollywood, tabloid journalism, The Believers, Mexican magic, Maximon & Baron Samedi, the Mayan death god, drug cult cartel magic, Breaking Bad, Jesus Malverde, sorcery or Hollywood, Santiago Atitlan, Mayan shaman brotherhood, meeting Mitch, the nagual and the tonal, the miracle of sin, the path of transgression, Seen and Not Seen.


    Part Two: The Repressed Trauma Norm (29 mins – 1 hr 7 mins)


    The video nasty, faking magic, I Spit on Your Grave, cinematic violence, mimetic violence, different responses to rape and violence, cannabis & movie watching, George Bataille, transgression & revolution, conservative censors and radical revolutionaries, Quadrophenia & mimesis, freedom of choice, cultural Band-Aids to trauma, opposite backgrounds, cramming Marxism, seeking repressed memories, recovered memory syndrome, the traumatic effects of television, appointments with fear, the occult conspiracy of the unconscious, the traumatic imprint, the trauma spectrum, the unlived life of the parents, red herrings on the quest for wholeness, collective skeletons in the closet of society, willed secrets.


    Part Three: Sleepers on A Mission (1 hr 7 mins – end)


    Symptomology of trauma, the mother & the matrix, the hard work of reconciliation, maternal dreams, the mother’s death, a monstrous mother, compartmentalization of trauma and abuse, Countess Dracula & Dorian Gray, the dead and the living. 


    John Cussan's site


    Songs: “Knob Wobbler,” by Gib Strange; "Summer Ends" and "A Hell Below" by the Raveonettes; Aurora Ave, by Rose Windows.


     

    1 hr 27 min
  • The Liminalist # 210: (Obeying the Laws Of Physics, with Panu Lyytinen)
    Conversation with Panu Lyytinen on Dave Oshana, Carlos Castaneda, house renovations, the limits of language, mapping Hell, & the Christian Mafia. Part One: Gonzo Sorcery (0 mins – 27 mins) Talking about Dave, an interest in Castaneda, loss of interest in sorcery, the use of time & energy on the spiritual path, the recapitulation, gonzo ... Read moreThe Liminalist # 210: (Obeying the Laws Of Physics, with Panu Lyytinen)
    2 hr 1 min
  • The Liminalist # 210: (Obeying the Laws Of Physics, with Panu Lyytinen)

    Conversation with Panu Lyytinen on Dave Oshana, Carlos Castaneda, house renovations, the limits of language, mapping Hell, & the Christian Mafia.


    Part One: Gonzo Sorcery (0 mins – 27 mins)


    Talking about Dave, an interest in Castaneda, loss of interest in sorcery, the use of time & energy on the spiritual path, the recapitulation, gonzo sorcery, a blurry context, a deranging reality, distrusting entertainment, being spellbound, infinite possibilities, Journey to Ixtlan, the quest for power, a poisonous mix, pieces of art, the debunking of Castaneda, books as sorcery, letting go of concepts, reviewing Castaneda in a new context, how human beings come together, the function of the nagual, seeing Dave through the sorcery lens


    Part Two: A Hungry Seeker (27 mins – 1 hr 5 mins)


    John de Ruiter’s spell, shedding of the sorcerer’s skin, learning curves, progress through therapy and practical work, the best spiritual teacher, a hungry seeker, just a guy, far from a master, looking for a father figure, habitual problems, a supporting energy, a conundrum, human patterns, a crash course with de Ruiter, not getting everything right, two Daves, awareness as currency, power without love, a false template, working with animals, compassion in action, where words fail, a net of interactions, the big dance, the limits of language, relational existence, the trick of language, cat people, probing devices, talking as massage, from mapping hell to mapping reality, the field of life, the trauma in the body, talking therapy, creative process, interfacing with the world, renovating a childhood home, a source of happiness


    Part Three: When the Nail Says No  (1 hr 5 mins – 1 hr 30 mins)


    House renovations as healing, why sorcery fails, a challenge measured to capacity, treasuring the body, letting the physical world teach us, bringing consciousness to the body, developing presence, aspirations to greatness, finding acceptance, the Fight Club syndrome, everyone thinks they’re the One, the false identity & foreign installation, enjoyment without applause, renovating in a relationship, corrosion & restoration, inherently meaningful work, environmental grounds, discovering right relationship to reality, getting aligned with truth, when the nail says no, obeying the laws of physics, why Jesus was a carpenter, Dave & Jesus.


    Part Four: The Impetus to Visit Hell (1 hr 30 mins – end)


    Investing in Jesus’ divinity, deathbed conversions, Christian gibberish, when Jesus went to Hell, redeeming Lucifer, renovating Hell, the lost sheep, Black Metal, an invincible character, the path of transgression, a Christian upbringing, a necessary rebellion, an intolerable implant, animal & human sacrifice, Roman Empire culture, the Christian Mafia, the Empire that never ended, the problem with problems, Rene Girard, the innocent scapegoat, the source of all that’s wrong, self-sacrifice & surrender, a good story, maintaining honesty, the value & the cost of truth-telling, mass traumatization, when truth deranges, hero myths, a religion for masses, the first steps of globalization, mainstream Satanism, back to the body, even distribution of consciousness, the impetus to visit Hell


    Panu's music.


    Songs: “Knob Wobbler,” by Gib Strange; “Lucy,” by Cullah; “Wake Up Drive Through” by The UpsideDown; "Nyt on MIES!" by Vihainen Miessoittaja; “These Words” by Hazelwood Motel.

    2 hr 1 min
  • The Liminalist # 209: When the UFO Becomes a Trauma (with David Moore)
    Conversation with David Moore on UFOs, evolutionary metaphors, & trauma. Part One: Chasing the UFO Tale (0 – 32 mins) Prisoner of Infinity, Kripal’s traumatic secret, shamanic culture, Credo Muttwa, a tendency to disembodiment, a posture of postmodernism, metaphors for embodiment, unhealthy empowerment, confronted by reality, peak experiences eclipsed, body terror, Strieber’s emotionality, Gurdjieff, New ... Read moreThe Liminalist # 209: When the UFO Becomes a Trauma (with David Moore)
    2 hr 16 min
  • The Liminalist # 209: When the UFO Becomes a Trauma (with David Moore)

    Conversation with David Moore on UFOs, evolutionary metaphors, & trauma.


    Part One: Chasing the UFO Tale (0 – 32 mins)


    Prisoner of Infinity, Kripal’s traumatic secret, shamanic culture, Credo Muttwa, a tendency to disembodiment, a posture of postmodernism, metaphors for embodiment, unhealthy empowerment, confronted by reality, peak experiences eclipsed, body terror, Strieber’s emotionality, Gurdjieff, New Age synthesis, Stan Gooch’s Total Man, a darker element, a UFO experience, a focus on the numinous, faery and UFOs, Colin Wilson, the ET hypothesis, a loop of logic, cultural engineering.


    Part Two: Faced with Anomaly (32 mins – 1 hr 3 mins)


    The Lucid View daze, losing the ground, blurring the line between reality and unreality, subjective & objective, synchronicity & stigmata, a loss of focus & direction, the quest for convergence, the Andreasson affair, American Cosmic, the psyche abhors a vacuum, faced with the anomaly, filling the void, a spectrum of fantasy and occultism, LARPing in the UFO field, a camouflage of absurdity, behind the masks, John Carpenter’s Starman, a feeling of disconnect, The X-Files, a childhood sighting, the need for closure, transhumanist films, The Terminator’s skeleton, multiple genders, migrating from the body, Neuromancer & the ecstasy of disembodiment, freedom & the real, the ground of the body, the starting reference point, converging on trauma, what cannot be processed, when trauma becomes the UFO.


    Part Three: Living in a Lunar World (1 hr 3 mins – 1 hr 25 mins)


    An event outside control, struggling for closure, intimations of evolution, a transubstantiation of consciousness, John Mack, watching Strieber develop, searching for a model, a religious skeleton, the difference between transcendence and dissociation, psychedelics, pointed back to the past, heightened sensitivity through drugs, living in a lunar world, developing the will, higher & lower consciousness polarity.


    Part Four: The House of the Unconscious (1 hr 25 mins – 1 hr 51 mins)


    The problem of evil, Strieber’s Catholic take on demons & angels, unpleasant anomalies, transgression and heightened consciousness, George Bataille, Ian Brady’s black light, an existential break, methodology of child abuse, remote control operatives, audience cults and cultural myths, what the will is, the house of the unconscious, disembodied philosophies, head-centered wills, social media identities, impulsivity on the internet, crumbling bridges of empathy, thinking and body language.


    Part Five: Storming Area 51 (1 hr 51 mins – end)


    Music and embodiment, different body lingos, knowing in the body, a gravitational pull towards virtuality, a turmoil and pedanticism, synchronicity & the internet, a computer-based mystical world, American Cosmic, the absence of demons, validating an unconscious belief, a lack of integrity, an absence of doubt, Strieber’s true belief, storming Area 51.  


    David's site.


    Songs: “Knob Wobbler,” by Gib Strange; "MEI (Mock Extraterrestrial Invasion)" by
    Extrapedestrian; “Mars Trouble” by The Gandua Sound Project; “Ghost of Elvis,” by Origami Conspiracy; “These Words” by Hazelwood Motel.

    2 hr 16 min
  • The Liminalist # 208: A Generational Bridge (with Emerald Gould)


    Return conversation with Emerald Gould, on her first encounter with Dave Oshana.


    Part One: Watching the Room (0 – 26 mins)


    Understanding enlightenment, intuitive impressions of Dave, what Jasun sees in Dave, being primed, concrete things in relation to abstractions, indoor energy work, an energetic high, energy work observations, food and energy, watching the room, a skeptical approach, questioning rather than believing, separating from the experience.


    Part Two: A Meeting of Bodies (26 – 55 mins)


    Experiencing discomfort, Dave’s reasons, when to assert one’s will, reasons not to be extraordinary, an invisible dimension, Dave’s eyes, a glimpse of unfocused awareness, Mark’s thing, avoiding abstractions, the enlightenment transmission, seeking enlightenment, efforting, the boy that becomes a bullfighter, two-way causation, Mark the seeker, abstract realms of being, giving feedback, what people get from a Dave event, a meeting of bodies.


    Part Three: The Secret Life of the Soul (55 mins – 1 hr 20 mins)


    A metaphorical handshake, the opening up of life, soul connections, the secret life of the soul, London humatons, when the mind gets involved, impressions of Dave, in a different space, authenticity,  the spiritual teacher, managerial advice for Dave, living with the life force, what does it mean to be living as one’s true self, discouraging questions, breaking Dave’s flow.


    Part Four: Moved by the System (1 hr 20 mins – end)


    The question of coming back for more, what was useful, Dave’s osmosis, why Dave rambles, the irrelevance vs. relevance of words, descriptions of enlightenment, sensing the world, one with the universe, a vicarious sense of enlightenment, the drawbacks of group interaction, a tuning fork, prodding Dave, moved by the system, the will of the collective, an audience of individuals, Mark’s experience, the youngest Dave participant, meeting Dave at 22, the cost of self-initiating, the wisdom of making mistakes.


    Dave Oshana US Events in Sept-Oct on the East Coast


    Songs: “Knob Wobbler,” by Gib Strange; "Down in the Valley" by The Head & the Heart; "Of You" by Emerald Gould; “These Words” by Hazelwood Motel.


     


     


     


     


     


    1 hr 50 min

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