Pam sits down with Erica Jackowitz—former attorney turned co-founder of Roman & Erica and Rêve Travel Club—to unpack what real luxury travel means when your scarcest asset is time. Born from a botched Cabo booking, Erica’s model acts like a personal assistant to your leisure, rejecting cookie-cutter itineraries in favor of five-sense memories: e-biking through Florence instead of riding in an S-Class, turning Rome’s Trevi Fountain into a hands-on family moment, and scouting the globe so clients always land in the right place at the right time. She and Pam swap candid stories (camel rides, observation decks, kids in museums), explore how travel can humble and expand empathy, and reflect on working with her husband Roman while designing trips that feel singular, not generic. If you crave experiences over checklists, this episode is your compass.

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