The MAFFEO DRINKS Podcast

By Chris MaffeoBusiness Marketing Management

The MAFFEO DRINKS Podcast episodes

May 14, 2024 060 | Nick Gillett | Mangrove Global | Wholesalers & Distributors: understanding the Drinks Route-to-Market
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In Ep. 60, I had an incredible chat with Nick Gillett, Managing Director of Mangrove Global. We spoke about all the aspects of bringing Drinks Brands to market from start to scale, including distributors, Wholesalers, and all the links in the Drinks Ecosystem. I hope you will enjoy our chat.

Time Stamps
0:00 Intro
1:20 Brand or Liquid Marketing Foundation
1:58 Nick Gillett Intro
6:58 Wholesalers & Importers Differences
12:50 The Game of Share of Mind
16:53 The Diversity of Wholesale
25:58 Has Wholesale Changed?
28:53 The Value of Relationships
32:10 Outro

About The Host: Chris Maffeo
About The Guest: Nick Gillett

Chris Maffeo hosted this episode, brought to you by MAFFEO DRINKS.
MAFFEO DRINKS is a leading drinks business podcast, listened to in 120 countries with 130+ episodes. How the industry actually works, from the bar to the boardroom.
Wanna know what the conversation above means for your team? It's in the paid section.
You get access to Maffeo Confidential (Private Podcast), this analysis, and the full catalog of 130+ episodes, each one translating industry conversation into the commercial decisions underneath it. Find out more at maffeodrinks.com or on Substack.

33 min
May 07, 2024 059 | Stephen Myers | How to Build Demand Bar by Bar
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In Episode 59, I continued the chat with Stephen Myers, from Ep. 58. He is the Founder of Dynamic Beverage Consultants. He is also one of the Originals at Ilegal Mezcal. We dived into the crucial aspects of launching a new brand in the (US) market and how to avoid expensive mistakes. I hope you will enjoy our chat.

Time Stamps
0:00 Intro
0:34 Your First 1,000 Pounds
4:00 Building Presence In The Trade
8:22 Being Relevant
14:35 Portfolio Strategies, One Bar
17:11 Portfolio Strategies, Many Bars
20:51 Independent Vs Chains
24:17 Be Careful What You Wish For
29:26 Last Thoughts On Entrepreneurship
34:15 Last Thoughts

About The Host: Chris Maffeo
About The Guest: Stephen Myers

Chris Maffeo hosted this episode, brought to you by MAFFEO DRINKS.
MAFFEO DRINKS is a leading drinks business podcast, listened to in 120 countries with 130+ episodes. How the industry actually works, from the bar to the boardroom.
Wanna know what the conversation above means for your team? It's in the paid section.
You get access to Maffeo Confidential (Private Podcast), this analysis, and the full catalog of 130+ episodes, each one translating industry conversation into the commercial decisions underneath it. Find out more at maffeodrinks.com or on Substack.

35 min
April 30, 2024 058 | Stephen Myers | The First Steps in a New Market
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In Episode 58, I chatted with Stephen Myers, Founder of Dynamic Beverage Consultants. He is also one of the Originals at Ilegal Mezcal. We dived into the crucial aspects of launching a new brand in the (US) market and how to avoid expensive mistakes. I hope you will enjoy our chat.

Time Stamps
0:00 Intro
0:51 About Steve
4:26 Brand Or Liquid Lead
6:34 Brand Story & Differentiation
12:28 Target Occasion
14:06 Creating Demand
16:57 Great Marketing, Bad Commercials
21:20 Beyond Categories
22:36 Breaking Into New Markets (Relationship Chaining)
28:07 Drinks Relationship Ecosystem
33:50 Outro

About The Host: Chris Maffeo
About The Guest: Stephen Myers

Chris Maffeo hosted this episode, brought to you by MAFFEO DRINKS.
MAFFEO DRINKS is a leading drinks business podcast, listened to in 120 countries with 130+ episodes. How the industry actually works, from the bar to the boardroom.
Wanna know what the conversation above means for your team? It's in the paid section.
You get access to Maffeo Confidential (Private Podcast), this analysis, and the full catalog of 130+ episodes, each one translating industry conversation into the commercial decisions underneath it. Find out more at maffeodrinks.com or on Substack.

35 min
April 23, 2024 057 | Emmett Strack | US & EU Trends Cross-pollination
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In episode 57, we've created a cross-episode with the Park Street University Insider Podcast.
I spoke to Emmett Strack, and we dived into the latest 2024 trends in the drinks industry.
We compared the US and Europe, talking about the cross-pollination of trends in the cocktail scene,
and in the overall bottom-up trade.
I hope you will enjoy our chat.

Time Stamps
0:00 Intro
2:16 Role of Convenience & Occasion
8:51 Ascension of Flavor
15:38 Pressurization
18:35 On-Trade In Europe
23:05 Euro Cocktail Trends
30:51 Gen Z & Drinking Occasion
36:42 Euro Drinking Categories
41:41 American Drinking Trends
46:14 Outro

About The Host: Chris Maffeo
About The Guest: Emmett Strack

Chris Maffeo hosted this episode, brought to you by MAFFEO DRINKS.
MAFFEO DRINKS is a leading drinks business podcast, listened to in 120 countries with 130+ episodes. How the industry actually works, from the bar to the boardroom.
Wanna know what the conversation above means for your team? It's in the paid section.
You get access to Maffeo Confidential (Private Podcast), this analysis, and the full catalog of 130+ episodes, each one translating industry conversation into the commercial decisions underneath it. Find out more at maffeodrinks.com or on Substack.

47 min
April 16, 2024 056 | Georgie Bell | The Heart Cut | The Early Journey of a Founder-led Brand
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In Episode 56, I continued the conversation with Georgie Bell, The Heart Cut's co-founder from Ep.55. She has extensive industry experience, having previously worked at Diageo, Bacardi, and the Scotch Malt Whisky Society.
We discussed how to explain a product, starting from a liquid, going into taste profile, storytelling, and target occasions. We closed with a dive into the life of a start-up with learnings and course correction to build bottom-up. I hope you will enjoy our chat.

Time Stamps
0:00 Intro
0:24 Where Do You Start
4:46 Importance Of Follow Up
7:41 Importance Of Normal Bars
13:05 Importance Of Off-Trade
15:18 When To Wholesale?
17:09 One Bottle, One Case, One Pallet
23:40 Building Demand With Partners
30:56 The Drinks Ecosystem
34:20 Start Up Challenges
47:34 Contact Details
49:19 Outro

About The Host: Chris Maffeo
About The Guest: Georgie Bell

Chris Maffeo hosted this episode, brought to you by MAFFEO DRINKS.
MAFFEO DRINKS is a leading drinks business podcast, listened to in 120 countries with 130+ episodes. How the industry actually works, from the bar to the boardroom.
Wanna know what the conversation above means for your team? It's in the paid section.
You get access to Maffeo Confidential (Private Podcast), this analysis, and the full catalog of 130+ episodes, each one translating industry conversation into the commercial decisions underneath it. Find out more at maffeodrinks.com or on Substack.

50 min
April 09, 2024 055 | Georgie Bell | The Heart Cut | Taste Profile & Storytelling
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In Episode 55, I enjoyed chatting with The Heart Cut's co-founder Georgie Bell. She has extensive industry experience, having previously worked at Diageo, Bacardi, and the Scotch Malt Whisky Society.
We discussed how to explain a product, starting from a liquid, going into taste profile, storytelling, and target occasions. We closed with a dive into the life of a start-up with learnings and course correction to build bottom-up. I hope you will enjoy our chat.

Time Stamps
0:00 Intro
2:03 Brand or Liquid?
6:43 Social Currency
12:43 Story Telling
23:22 Taste Profile
25:39 Target Consumer Vs Target Occasion
36:35 Women In Whisk(e)y
36:24 Outro

About The Host: Chris Maffeo
About The Guest: Georgie Bell

Chris Maffeo hosted this episode, brought to you by MAFFEO DRINKS.
MAFFEO DRINKS is a leading drinks business podcast, listened to in 120 countries with 130+ episodes. How the industry actually works, from the bar to the boardroom.
Wanna know what the conversation above means for your team? It's in the paid section.
You get access to Maffeo Confidential (Private Podcast), this analysis, and the full catalog of 130+ episodes, each one translating industry conversation into the commercial decisions underneath it. Find out more at maffeodrinks.com or on Substack.

47 min
April 02, 2024 054 | Vani Gupta Dandia | How to Build a Drink Brand Bottom-up
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In Episode 054 I had the pleasure of speaking with Vani Gupta Dandia. I was a guest in her Marketing with Vani Podcast were she interviews marketing people from various industries. We dived into the Drinks Industry, looking at it from outside. I hope you will enjoy our chat
Time Stamps
0:00 Intro
0:26 Background
2:00 What Differentiates Alcohol
3:05 Target Occasions
7:35 Bridging Categories
9:22 Gender Stereotypes
11:12 Tracking What You Can Track
13:47 Educating Consumers
18:11 Role Of Storytelling
20:24: Bottom Up Trade
24:17 Being Everything To Everyone
26:40 Playing with Variations
31:39 Cross Generational Appeal
36:36 Functional VS Recreational
39:54 Building Brands Bottom Up
46:17 Outro
About The Host: Chris Maffeo
About The Guest: Vani Gupta Dandia

Chris Maffeo hosted this episode, brought to you by MAFFEO DRINKS.
MAFFEO DRINKS is a leading drinks business podcast, listened to in 120 countries with 130+ episodes. How the industry actually works, from the bar to the boardroom.
Wanna know what the conversation above means for your team? It's in the paid section.
You get access to Maffeo Confidential (Private Podcast), this analysis, and the full catalog of 130+ episodes, each one translating industry conversation into the commercial decisions underneath it. Find out more at maffeodrinks.com or on Substack.

47 min
March 26, 2024 053 | Justin Medcraft | Mate Maker | Nailing Your City (Distribution) Strategy: How to Transform Brand Momentum into Velocity in the right venues
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In Episode 053, I continued the conversation with Justin Medcraft from Episode 052, so feel free to listen to that as well. He is the Founder of Mate Maker Hard Kombucha.
He brings a wealth of previous experience in Spirits and Beer. We discussed building demand for a start-up drinks brand, standing out amongst a sea of products, and focusing on building momentum.
I hope you will enjoy our chat.

One last thing: If you enjoy this podcast, you will also like the MAFFEO DRINKS Guides. You can subscribe free or paid on maffeodrinks.com

Time Stamps
0:00 Intro
0:24 When To Open New Markets
10:31 Community Driven Marketing
15:45 Growing From Your Community
18:33 Getting The SKU In, Increasing Rotation
26:33 Advantages Of Small Brands
36:19 Discipline
39:15 Contacts
39:54 Outro

About The Host: Chris Maffeo
About The Guest: Justin Medcraft

Chris Maffeo hosted this episode, brought to you by MAFFEO DRINKS.
MAFFEO DRINKS is a leading drinks business podcast, listened to in 120 countries with 130+ episodes. How the industry actually works, from the bar to the boardroom.
Wanna know what the conversation above means for your team? It's in the paid section.
You get access to Maffeo Confidential (Private Podcast), this analysis, and the full catalog of 130+ episodes, each one translating industry conversation into the commercial decisions underneath it. Find out more at maffeodrinks.com or on Substack.

41 min
March 19, 2024 052 | Justin Medcraft | Mate Maker | How a Crystal-Clear Target Occasion Helps you Stand Out in the Busiest Market for Your Category
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In Episode 52, I enjoyed chatting with Justin Medcraft, the Founder of Mate Maker Hard Kombucha.
He brings a wealth of previous experience in Spirits and Beer. We discussed how to build demand for a start-up drinks brand, stand out amongst a sea of products, and focus on building momentum.
I hope you will enjoy our chat.

One last thing: If you enjoy this podcast, you will also like the MAFFEO DRINKS Guides. You can subscribe free or paid on maffeodrinks.com

Time Stamps
0:00 Introduction
2:04 Building Demand
3:49 Building Community: Brand Or Liquid?
6:15 Mate Maker Elevator Pitch
11:26 The Consumer Pitch
13:07 The Ring Road
19:39 Determining Direction
26:05 Home Turf Advantage
35:09 Growing Beyond Your Hometown
38:01 Outro

About The Host: Chris Maffeo
About The Guest: Justin Medcraft

Chris Maffeo hosted this episode, brought to you by MAFFEO DRINKS.
MAFFEO DRINKS is a leading drinks business podcast, listened to in 120 countries with 130+ episodes. How the industry actually works, from the bar to the boardroom.
Wanna know what the conversation above means for your team? It's in the paid section.
You get access to Maffeo Confidential (Private Podcast), this analysis, and the full catalog of 130+ episodes, each one translating industry conversation into the commercial decisions underneath it. Find out more at maffeodrinks.com or on Substack.

39 min
March 12, 2024 051 | Ilias Mastrogiannis | Mastering Unscalable Things to Drive Scale: Diary of a Drinks Builder obsessed about details
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In Episode 051, I continued the conversation with Ilias Mastrogiannis from Episode 050 so feel free to listen to that as well. I hope you will enjoy our chat

Time Stamps
0:00 Intro
0:15 Winning Large Retailers
5:28 Securing The Foundation
8:34 Non-Scalable Tasks
13:31 1% Better Everyday
17:57 The Necessity of Obsession
25:07 Wrap Up
27:24 Outro

About The Host: Chris Maffeo
About The Guest: Ilias Mastrogiannis

Chris Maffeo hosted this episode, brought to you by MAFFEO DRINKS.
MAFFEO DRINKS is a leading drinks business podcast, listened to in 120 countries with 130+ episodes. How the industry actually works, from the bar to the boardroom.
Wanna know what the conversation above means for your team? It's in the paid section.
You get access to Maffeo Confidential (Private Podcast), this analysis, and the full catalog of 130+ episodes, each one translating industry conversation into the commercial decisions underneath it. Find out more at maffeodrinks.com or on Substack.

28 min

About The MAFFEO DRINKS Podcast

From the publisher's feed

The Maffeo Drinks Podcast is a leading business podcast in the drinks industry. 135 episodes. Listened to in more than 120 countries. This podcast closes the gap between Bottom-up reality and Top-down expectations with conversations about how brands are actually built, from the field, not the boardroom. Chris Maffeo, founder of MAFFEO DRINKS, hosts the show with over 20 years of experience across 30+ markets.