Richard Zwicky speaks with Irin Rubin, CEO and co-founder of MamaZen and author of the MamaZen Parenting Method. Rubin addresses the modern "crisis" of maternal mental health, arguing that while childbearing is a biological process, the act of mothering in our current isolated society is far from natural.

She emphasizes the loss of the "village" and the disappearance of historical support systems, which often leaves new mothers feeling neglected and overwhelmed. Rubin advocates for a cultural shift where household responsibilities are shared by all family members and boys are raised to be active, supportive partners.