Humanities scholar and author Clay Jenkinson joins podcast host Mike McFeely and Clay tells a story about an Uber ride he received in Tacoma, Wash., and what that means in the bigger picture.

What will America do when a crucial industry — over-the-road trucking — is overtake by driverless technology? What will truck drivers do for jobs? Will this leave millions without work?

A quick-hitter turns into a fascinating, and sort of scary, discussion.