About a year ago, after getting frustrated with my industry for the umpteenth time, I posted a rant on Facebook and used the hashtag LeadnotLEED.  Why?  Mainly because I wanted to tell professionals in the building industry to become leaders, not just follow the LEED program like lemmings.  The LEED program is good for many reasons, but as we've discussed in previous episodes, it doesn't take human health concerns into account enough to make a difference.  So today, Jay and I recorded our show prep conversation and it was sounding so good, I decided to roll with it.  Its not really edited at all...Just Jay and I speaking freely.  Enjoy!