The Missions Show

By Alex Kocman and Scott DunfordSociety & Culture Religion & Spirituality Christianity Education Philosophy

The Missions Show episodes

November 17, 2025Islam’s War on Christians in Nigeria With Larry Alex Taunton
What's happening with persecuted Christians in Nigeria?
In this episode of the Missions Podcast, Alex and Scott talk with Larry Alex Taunton, an author and apologist, who shares his firsthand experience witnessing Christian persecution in Nigeria. Taunton recounts his journey to the country’s northern region, where he saw the devastating effects of what he calls a “genocide against Christians.” He describes traveling through burned villages, military checkpoints, and communities living in constant fear of attacks by Boko Haram and Fulani militants.
Through personal experience, Taunton highlights the courage of Nigerian Christians who remain steadfast in their faith despite extreme danger. His central message is that the Western church has largely ignored this persecution, and that believers in safer nations must recognize their responsibility to speak out and advocate for action. Alex and Scott end with a call to combine compassion, truth, and courage—to both confront injustice and advance the mission of Christ.
Key Topics:
Larry Taunton’s firsthand experience in northern Nigeria and exposure to Christian persecution.
The role of Boko Haram and Fulani herdsmen in anti-Christian violence.
The silence and suppression of the issue by Western media and international organizations.
The moral and spiritual responsibility of the Western church to respond.
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31 min
November 10, 2025Is Persecution a Good Thing?
Is it true that the "blood of the martyrs is the seed of the church"?
In this episode, Alex and Scott challenge the popular belief that persecution is inherently good for the church. Drawing from Ronald Boyd-MacMillan’s article Does Persecution Always Bring Growth?, they argue that while persecution can refine believers, history shows it often destroys the local church entirely. They distinguish between short, intense persecution that may spark renewal and long-term systemic persecution that weakens or eliminates the church altogether.
Alex and Scott discuss that Christians should not romanticize suffering and realize that persecution is a valuable tool that Satan uses against God's people. They stress the importance of religious freedom, both for evangelism and human dignity, urging Christians to defend it globally, and ultimately, they conclude that while God can bring good from persecution, it should never be desired or celebrated.
Key Topics
Misconceptions about persecution as beneficial for church growth
Historical examples where persecution led to church extinction (e.g., Uyghur, Arabic, and Mongol eras)
Distinction between short-term vs. long-term persecution effects
The role of religious freedom in advancing the gospel
Biblical and historical perspectives on persecution and faithfulness
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32 min
November 03, 2025Need to Know Data on Church Missions Engagement With Matthew Ellison and Denny Spitters
Does your pastor adequately prioritize missions at your church?
In this episode of The Missions Podcast, Alex interviews Matthew Ellison and Denny Spitters from 1615 Missions Coaching about their new book, The Sending Shepherd: Leading Churches to Disciple All Nations. Drawing from a Barna study, the conversation centers on the vital role of church leadership in global missions. They argue that effective mobilization starts with senior pastors embracing a “sending shepherd” mindset—reintegrating God’s global purpose into preaching, discipleship, and church culture rather than treating missions as an optional program.
They encourage pastors to see missions not as one ministry among many, but as the core narrative of Scripture shaping every believer’s role in God’s redemptive story. The discussion closes with success stories of integrating missions into the church, practical encouragement for pastors, and a reminder that mobilizing for the Great Commission is both essential for the world and for the church’s spiritual health.
Key Topics
Findings from the Barna “U.S. Pastors and Missions Survey”
The problem of “when everything is missions, nothing is missions”
Leadership’s critical role in shaping global vision (Antioch model from Acts 13)
The difference between marginalizing missions and integrating it into the church’s DNA
Importance of defining and distinguishing evangelism, outreach, and missions
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29 min
October 26, 2025Collab: Nicene Creed and the Transcultural Gospel with Dr. Don Fairbairn and Cedar Crest Church
How does the Nicene Creed unite believers from East and West?
This episode of The Missions Podcast—in collaboration with Cedar Crest Bible Fellowship Church’s Captivate & Conform podcast—features Dr. Don Fairbairn, a theologian and former missionary to Soviet Georgia. The conversation explores the intersection of missions, theology, and church history, particularly how the Nicene Creed and patristic theology offer transcultural insight for modern missiology. Dr. Fairbairn shares his journey from seminary to the mission field and how his time in Eastern Europe reshaped his academic focus on Eastern Orthodoxy and early church thought.
He emphasizes that the early church’s theology was already multilingual and multicultural, forged by African and Asian theologians rather than Europeans—a reminder that Christianity’s foundations are inherently global. Fairbairn advocates for retrieving the transcultural truths of the Nicene Creed and a deeper understanding of the relational nature of salvation.
Key Topics:
The transcultural and multilingual origins of the Nicene Creed
Differences between Eastern Orthodox and Western (Protestant) theology
The concept of divine acceptance vs. human striving for God
How patristic theology informs modern missiology
The importance of understanding the Trinity in global missions
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29 min
October 19, 2025Your ‘World View’ Is Wrong: The Challenge and Blessing of Missionary Mapmaking
How does a visual representation of the world affect your overall world view?
Alexand Scottdiscuss the spiritual and practical significance of maps in missionary work, exploring how maps not only display geography but also influence how Christians perceive the world’s spiritual landscape. They trace the history of missionary mapping from figures like David Livingstone and William Carey, reflecting on how visual tools like the 10/40 Window have historically mobilized believers toward unreached regions.
Alex and Scott emphasize that maps do more than expand awareness—they refine our worldview, highlighting both the vast need for the gospel and the ongoing progress of Christianity globally. They also stress the importance of using maps not only globally but locally—to visualize one’s own city, region, and immediate mission field and argue for a balanced view that celebrates where the gospel has flourished while still acknowledging areas of spiritual darkness.
Key Topics:
The theological and historical role of maps in missions
The concept and influence of the 10/40 Window
How map design shapes worldview and missional focus
The balance between global vision and local mission engagement
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29 min
October 12, 2025Why Church Planting Still Matters in America With Clare Jewell
What does church planting look like here in North America?
In this episode, Alex and Scott talk with Dr. Clare Jewell, national representative of the GARBC and Executive Director with ABWE’s EveryEthne, about the state of church planting in North America. Clare shares his journey from pastoral ministry to missions leadership, explaining his passion for helping churches reproduce and make disciples. While the U.S. is filled with churches, it remains the world’s third-largest mission field. New church plants, Clare explains, are far more effective in reaching the lost than established congregations, and the focus must shift from programs to relationships.
Jewell also addresses how churches can reach people “not like them”, to get beyond people that share the same demographics, moral code, or even religion. He highlights the growing hunger among younger generations for mentorship and authentic discipleship, seeing signs of renewed spiritual interest.
Key Topics
The need for disciple-making and church reproduction in North America
Effectiveness of new church plants versus established churches
Relational evangelism over program-driven ministry
Engaging culture without compromising biblical truth
Revitalizing the GARBC toward mission and interdependence
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32 min
October 05, 2025If Bible Colleges Close, What Happens to Missions? With Dr. Jim Lytle
Are small Bible colleges on life support in America?
In this week's episode, Alex and Scott welcome Dr. Jim Lytle, former president of Clarks Summit University and former ABWE missionary to South Africa, to discuss the enduring importance of Christian institutions and the plight facing Bible colleges today. They explore how Bible colleges have historically served as crucial training grounds for mobilizing missionaries, shaping young believers’ worldviews, and fostering a heart for cross-cultural ministry. Lytle emphasizes that the purpose of these schools was not only theological education but also defining reality for students—helping them see their lives in the context of God’s global mission.
They also address the challenges facing Christian higher education today, including declining enrollment, rising costs, parental hesitancy toward missions, and cultural changes that have shifted students’ perspectives. They discuss the growing need for local churches to take on a greater role in developing and sending workers, the later age at which many missionaries are now mobilized, and the unique openness of Gen Z to purpose-driven and clearly defined callings.
Key Topics
The role of Christian institutions like Bible colleges in missions mobilization and shaping students’ worldview and calling
Challenges for Christian higher education (enrollment, finances, cultural shifts)
Trends in mobilizing Gen Z for missions and ministry
Need for clearly defined, purpose-driven calls to action
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29 min
September 28, 2025Bringing Christ to the Frontlines: Stories From North Africa
What does being a missionary look like among a totally unreached Muslim majority people group?
In this week's episode, Alex and Scott sit down with Alan, an ABWE missionary serving in North Africa, who shares his experience of seeing God work in incredible ways among an unreached people group. Despite having a lucrative career in corporate America, Alan felt the call to go preach the gospel to unreached Muslim people, all at the age of 50.
Alan shares personal stories about the risks and rewards of serving in an unreached context. He also talks about what he sees as being his biggest need on the field.
Read about Alan's full story in ABWE's Message Magazine. Click here.
To connect with Alan, email alex @ missionsshow.com. You can also support his ministry by giving here.
Key Topics:
Alan's call to ministry. From apathy to having a heart for unreached Muslims.
Using a business platform as a means to church planting
Personal story about Youssef coming to Christ and then his whole family
The biggest need on the field in North Africa.
Being a godly husband and father isn't about one big heroic act, it's about showing up every day. Men need a simple, practical plan to stay faithful in the daily grind. How To Lead Your Family is a no-nonsense guide, from author Joel Beeke, that gives the biblical foundation, Christ-centered encouragement, practical advice for men to purse the high standards that God calls them too. Get 20% off your copy today when you use the promo code: LEADABWE. Additionally, new email subscribers can get 10% off a future order. We are thankful for Reformation Heritage Books for their sponsorship of this episode!
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29 min
September 21, 2025AI Translation, Culture, and the Myth of Missions Shortcuts
Can AI technology shortcut language barriers for the gospel?
Alex Kocman and Scott Dunford explore the connection between language, culture, and gospel communication. They discuss Apple’s new AirPods Pro 3 with Live Translation and explain why technology can’t replace the slow, intentional work of learning a language. Scott shares personal stories from learning Mandarin, showing how culture shapes meaning and how simple translation can miss the point.
They also warn against reductionistic approaches to missions that downplay language learning and rely too much on quick methods. God Himself prepared a cultural framework over centuries for Christ’s coming, which shows why missionaries must engage deeply with local language and culture to clearly communicate the gospel.
Key Topics
Apple AirPods Pro 3 with Live Translationand the excitement and limitations for missions work
Language and culture as inseparable
How language shapes thought and the need for teaching new concepts
Cultural literacy and understanding local history, customs, and “insider language”
Being a godly husband and father isn't about one big heroic act, it's about showing up every day. Men need a simple, practical plan to stay faithful in the daily grind. How To Lead Your Family is a no-nonsense guide, from author Joel Beeke, that gives the biblical foundation, Christ-centered encouragement, practical advice for men to purse the high standards that God calls them too. Get 20% off your copy today when you use the promo code: LEADABWE. Additionally, new email subscribers can get 10% off a future order. We are thankful for Reformation Heritage Books for their sponsorship of this episode!
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30 min
September 14, 2025The Sin of Empathy? Leadership, Sabotage, and Missions With Joe Rigney
Can empathy be a bad thing?
This week, Alex and Scott sit down with Joe Rigney, Fellow of Theology at New Saint Andrew's College and pastor, as they explore the challenges of Christian leadership, ministry, and missions, and the dangers of emotional sabotage and untethered empathy. Rigney explains that in times of turmoil, leaders must maintain mission clarity and resist being derailed by reactive or manipulative pressures within their organizations.
Joe Rigney discusses that rather than being an unqualified good, empathy can be wielded as emotional blackmail, steering ministries away from their God-given purposes. They also focus on principles of mobilization and missions. Rigney stresses that appeals to missions should be rooted not in guilt but in gratitude, joy, and faith in God’s future grace.
Key Topics
The concept of mission drift and how institutions get derailed in anxious times
Difference between biblical compassion and untethered empathy
The dangers of empathy as emotional blackmail and manipulation
How appeals to missions should be based on truth and joy, not guilt
Building sober-minded, resilient leaders who can withstand cultural and emotional pressures
Being a godly husband and father isn't about one big heroic act, it's about showing up every day. Men need a simple, practical plan to stay faithful in the daily grind. How To Lead Your Family is a no-nonsense guide, from author Joel Beeke, that gives the biblical foundation, Christ-centered encouragement, practical advice for men to purse the high standards that God calls them too. Get 20% off your copy today when you use the promo code: LEADABWE. Additionally, new email subscribers can get 10% off a future order. We are thankful for Reformation Heritage Books for their sponsorship of this episode!
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The Missions Show answers hard questions about theology, missions, and practice to help goers think and thinkers go. We are conservative, evangelical, and gospel-centered.