The M.O. Sessions

My guest on this episode is magician Greg Dubin. I spotlight his career in magic and theater. Greg was kind enough to show me around his venue and even gave me a sneak peek of the good old streets of his NYC neighborhood. This neighborhood is home to his venue, Precision Clocks and Watches. A clock shop in the front and hidden in the back, a magic venue! Incredible!

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On this episode, I am pleased to have sat down with magician Doc Docherty. I really enjoyed this episode spotlighting his career and his incredible show in Asheville, NC. Enjoy this episode! Please subscribe to stay up to date on the latest episodes!

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https://ashevillemagicshow.com/

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Summary

In this conversation, magician Will Coile shares his journey from a young boy fascinated by magic to a performer who intertwines personal storytelling with his craft. He discusses the importance of community, the evolution of his performances, and the emotional themes he explores through magic. Will emphasizes the significance of aesthetics, the power of silence in performance, and the challenges of vulnerability when sharing personal experiences with audiences. In this engaging conversation, Will Coile discusses the evolution of his magic career, emphasizing the importance of personal storytelling and emotional connection in performances. He reflects on the challenges of sharing personal experiences, the transition from his previous persona, William the Great, and the desire to create authentic and intentional magic experiences. The dialogue explores the influences that shape his craft, the significance of community in magic, and the creative process behind developing new shows.

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https://willcoile.com/

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In this engaging conversation, Christian Cagigal shares his journey into the world of magic, exploring the influences of his childhood, the intersection of magic and theater, and the cultural elements that shape his performances. He discusses the evolution of spooky and bizarre magic, the impact of personal experiences with death, and the role of community in creating a unique magic experience. Cagigal emphasizes the importance of storytelling, imagination, and implicit narratives in his work, while also reflecting on the nature of skepticism and belief in magic. In this conversation, Christian Cagigal and Benny explore the intersection of gothic imagery, spooky aesthetics, and the art of magic. They discuss how to create a safe space for audiences while engaging them through storytelling and personal narratives. The dialogue also touches on the evolution of close-up magic, the influence of theater on performance, and the impact of online magic on new generations. Christian reflects on his experiences consulting for theatrical productions and the importance of reaching out to heroes in the magic community. In this engaging conversation, Benny and Christian Cagigal delve into the intricate world of mentalism, storytelling, and the distinctive performance style of spooky magic. They discuss the importance of audience engagement, the ethics of mentalism, and the intersection of magic with history and belief systems. Christian shares his experiences with psychics and the evolution of belief, while also delving into the challenges and rewards of performing in a speakeasy environment. The dialogue highlights the commitment required to create impactful magic and the nuances of connecting with an audience.

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In this episode, I sit down with one of the sharpest and funniest minds in magic. From her early start learning card tricks in Chicago to becoming a standout performer in New York City’s most respected close-up rooms, she’s carved out a style that blends wit, tension, and technical skill in a way that’s entirely her own.

We talk about what it means to hold someone’s attention, why close-up magic still matters, and how humor becomes a kind of sleight-of-hand on its own. Plus—plenty of laughs, and a surprise cameo from the infamous Kiwi.

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Summary

In this engaging conversation, Franco Piscali shares his journey through the worlds of magic and cardistry, discussing his influences, creative processes, and the importance of performance. He emphasizes the emotional connection created during performances and the role of failure in learning. Franco also explores the intersection of magic and cardistry, highlighting how they can complement each other. Additionally, he introduces CardoLago as a creative hub for his work, focusing on usability and artistic expression. In this engaging conversation, Benny and Franco explore the intricate world of magic and cardistry, discussing the emotional connection to creating playing cards, the art of performance, and the impact of digital media on magic. They delve into the creative process, the importance of collaboration, and the evolving nature of magic as an art form. Franco shares his experiences in the film industry and the joy of inspiring others through his craft, emphasizing the significance of creativity and connection in the world of magic.

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https://cartelago.la/

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In this engaging conversation, Benny and Elliott Terrell explore the profound impact of magic and personal growth on their lives. They discuss the importance of living a life worth commenting on, the influence of childhood icons like Steve Irwin and Mr. Rogers, and the journey of self-discovery through the art of conjuring. Elliott shares his experiences with mentorship, the role of self-teaching, and the intersection of art and craft in magic, ultimately revealing how these elements shape one's identity and purpose. In this conversation, Elliott Terral and Benny explore the deeper aspects of conjuring and magic, discussing the importance of spirituality, trust, and mindfulness in performance. They delve into the development of subtle senses to uncover truth and the journey from mastery to authenticity in the craft. The discussion also highlights the creation of a new educational space in magic that emphasizes deeper thinking and authenticity. In this conversation, Elliott Terral and Benny explore the evolution of magic, the importance of community, and the role of perception in performance. They discuss the impact of consistency in one's craft, the necessity of stepping back to gain perspective, and the need for a supportive and loving magic community. The dialogue also delves into the development of taste in magic, the significance of aligning intention with performance, and the challenges posed by the current magic politics. Ultimately, they emphasize the importance of creating a positive environment for magicians and the future of the art form. In this conversation, Benny and Elliott Terral explore the multifaceted role of the wand in magic, discussing its symbolism, the importance of coherence in performance, and the subtleties that contribute to a magician's effectiveness. They delve into the significance of building relationships within the craft, the future of magic in society, and performers' emotional and artistic responsibilities. In this conversation, Elliott Terral discusses his journey through imposter syndrome, the evolution of the magic community, and the importance of mentorship and personal growth. He emphasizes the need for a new approach to teaching magic that focuses on empowering individuals rather than just honing technical skills. The dialogue also touches on societal power dynamics, generational shifts in perspective, and the role of fashion in performance. Elliott advocates for a harmonious community of magicians who can positively influence the world.

Summary

In this episode, Benny reflects on his podcast journey, expressing gratitude to past guests and sharing insights from his interviews with prominent magicians. He discusses the creative process behind his podcast, the importance of experimentation in magic, and the significance of the wand in performances. Benny also explores the magic scene in Atlanta and shares his writing endeavors, emphasizing listener engagement and plans for the podcast.

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In this conversation, Matthew Holtzclaw shares his journey into the world of magic, from his early influences and experiences in a small magic shop to his growth as a performer in New York City. He discusses the evolution of magic, the importance of quality performances, and the resurgence of live magic. Holtzclaw emphasizes the need for authenticity and connection with audiences, offering insights and advice for young magicians looking to find their voice in the craft. In this engaging conversation, Matt Holtzclaw shares his insights on the journey to authenticity in performance, the challenges of consulting in the magic world, and the importance of collaboration. He discusses the evolution of magic, the emotional impact it can have on audiences, and the significance of mentorship for aspiring magicians. The conversation also touches on the role of women in magic and the future of the art form, emphasizing the need for community and support among performers.

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00:00 The Magic Origin Story

03:27 Influences and Mentorship in Magic

06:23 Navigating the New York Magic Scene

09:32 The Impact of Iconic Magicians

12:31 The Evolution of Magic Performance

15:23 Resurgence of Live Magic

18:33 Audience Expectations and Quality Magic

21:33 The Future of Magic in a Digital Age

25:00 The Art of Magic: Learning from the Masters

27:56 The Evolution of Performance: From Script to Spontaneity

31:31 Creating Connection: Engaging with the Audience

34:37 Navigating Modern Challenges: Phones and Distractions

42:21 Advice for Young Magicians: Finding Your Voice

44:46 The Balance of Performance and Authenticity

45:52 Consulting in the Magic World

48:22 Challenges in Collaborative Productions

49:43 The Overrated Nature of Broadway

51:21 Reimagining Classic Stories

53:14 The Cost of Magic and Storytelling

55:04 Evolving as a Performer

57:10 The Importance of Authenticity in Magic

01:00:41 Keeping Magic Fresh and Innovative

01:05:24 The Importance of Versatility in Performance

01:07:48 Teaching the Next Generation of Magicians

01:10:19 The Evolution of Magic and Performance

01:13:36 Advice for Aspiring Magicians

01:16:45 Navigating the Magic Community

01:21:29 Women in Magic and Their Unique Challenges

01:25:37 The Secrets Behind the Performance

01:27:18 MO OUTRO 2025.mp3