Join Chris and Austin as they discuss "Agile Satori, Meatloaf Industrialism, and Ensemble Training" with Jon Fazzaro. First, they discuss flipping the classroom, "Nerd Lunch," and ensemble training in light of "the speed of work as the speed of idea sharing." Second, they dive into Meatloaf Industrialism and our unquestioned cultural habits. Lastly, Jon shares about agile satori vs. slow gradual transformation and they discuss the relation between immersion and the paradox of paradigm shifts.