The Modern .NET Show

Hey everyone, and welcome back to The Modern .NET Show; the premier .NET podcast, focusing entirely on the knowledge, tools, and frameworks that all .NET developers should have in their toolbox. I'm your host Jamie Taylor, bringing you conversations with the brightest minds in the .NET ecosystem.

Today's episode is another one without a guest; it's just me again. This is part two of the series I started at the top of the season, Bridging the Gap, and if you're wondering where part two got to, we had a standard episode in between. That'll keep happening. The series numbers and the season numbers are going to drift apart, and I'll say which part we're on every time so nobody has to do arithmetic..

Anyway, without further ado, let's sit back, open up a terminal, type in `dotnet new podcast` and we'll dive into the core of Modern .NET.

The full show notes, including links to some of the things we discussed and a full transcription of this episode, can be found at: https://dotnetcore.show/season-9/you-might-not-need-to-upgrade-the-case-for-staying-put/

• This series
  • Bridging the Gap: Taking It Upstairs, every episode's business case on one page
  • s09e01 - You Are Not Behind: Why You Are Still On .NET Framework, part 1 of Bridging the Gap
• Episodes referenced in this one
  • Episode 24 - Migrating from ASP.NET to ASP.NET Core with Iris Classon
  • Episode 45 - Migrating Stack Overflow to .NET Core with Nick Craver
  • Episode 46 - Migrating Umbraco to .NET Core with Bjarke Berg, Umbraco's migration plans, as discussed in 2020
  • Episode 99 - Copy-Pasting with Iris Classon, Iris' second appearance on the show
  • S08E19 - Simplicity First: Why Complexity Is Not Sophistication with Chris Woodruff
• Microsoft lifecycle pages, which are the authority on every date in this episode
  • .NET and .NET Core official support policy
  • .NET Framework official support policy
  • ASP.NET official support policy, which carries the ASP.NET Core 2.3 end of support date
  • .NET Framework lifecycle policy
  • .NET and .NET Core lifecycle policy
  • .NET 11 release notes, the source of the .NET 11 support window quoted in the episode
• Microsoft announcements referenced in the episode
  • .NET STS releases supported for 24 months
  • .NET 8 and .NET 9 will reach End of Support on November 10, 2026
  • ASP.NET Core on .NET Framework servicing release advisory: ASP.NET Core 2.3, on why ASP.NET Core 2.1 was reshipped as 2.3
  • ASP.NET Core 2.3 end of support announcement
  • August 2026 cumulative update for .NET Framework, the most recent security rollup at the time of writing
• Stack Overflow's move off .NET Framework
  • Stack Overflow Migrate Architecture from .NET Framework to .NET Core, InfoQ, April 2020, the source of the developer-years figure
  • Which tools and technologies are used to build the Stack Exchange network?, the technology stack page on Meta Stack Exchange, with its revision history
  • Announcement of the chat upgrade to .NET 8, Meta Stack Exchange, October 2024
  • Stack Exchange Data Explorer migration to .NET 8, Meta Stack Exchange, May 2025
  • Moving the public Stack Overflow sites to the cloud: Part 1, the Stack Overflow Blog, August 2025
• Referenced in the episode
  • Migrating ASP.NET Microservices to ASP.NET Core: By Example, Iris Classon's first edition, 2019
  • Migrating ASP.NET Microservices to ASP.NET Core 8, Iris Classon's second edition, Apress, November 2024
  • Umbraco Long-term Support (LTS) and End-of-Life (EOL), the source of the Umbraco 8 and 9 support dates

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Hey everyone, and welcome back to The Modern .NET Show; the premier .NET podcast, focusing entirely on the knowledge, tools, and frameworks that all .NET developers should have in their toolbox. I'm your host Jamie Taylor, bringing you conversations with the brightest minds in the .NET ecosystem.

Today's episode was recorded shortly before the annual mid-year hiatus, and was recorded live at Codegarden. Codegarden is Umbraco's main conference, and I was invited by the folks over at Candid Contributions to record a collaboration episode on one of the stages. We sat down to discuss the topic of AI-based contributions to open source, the opinions of everyone present, what the Umbraco leadership team (which Emma is a part of) throught of them, and the (then) recent news that rsync's developer had come under fire for using AI. Along the way, we took questions from the audience and the recording ends with a rather spicy opinion from me; so keep an ear open for that.

I'm very grateful to Emma, Lotte, Carole, and Laura for asking me to collaborte with them on this episode. I'd also like to thank everyone on the Umbraco team for organising everything and allowing me to be part of Codegarden.

One thing to note is that Carole's mic wasn't working in the openning minutes. Podcast editor superstar Matt has done what he can to clean the audio up, and Carole's mic got replaced at the three minute mark, but it's worth knowing that going in.

Anyway, without further ado, let's sit back, open up a terminal, type in `dotnet new podcast` and we'll dive into the core of Modern .NET.

The full show notes, including links to some of the things we discussed and a full transcription of this episode, can be found at: https://dotnetcore.show/season-9/its-still-your-code-ai-contributions-to-open-source-live-at-codegarden/

• Codegarden and Candid Contributions
  • Codegarden programme
  • Candid Contributions
• Umbraco
  • Umbraco homepage
  • Umbraco Community
  • Getting involved with the Umbraco community
  • Umbraco on LinkedIn
  • Emma on LinkedIn
• Companion episode
  • S08E01 - Umbraco Unplugged: Emma Burstow & Mats Persson on Umbraco Being The Friendly, Truly Open-Source, CMS
• Open source projects discussed
  • curl
  • The Ladybird browser project
  • rsync on GitHub
  • Hacktoberfest
• Tools mentioned
  • Claude Code
  • GitHub Copilot
  • Cursor
  • JetBrains ReSharper
  • Playwright
  • GitHub CLI
• Also mentioned
  • Microsoft MVP Program
  • Stack Overflow
  • Explain Like I'm Five on Reddit
  • Hacker News
  • Bluesky

• Music created by Mono Memory Music, licensed to RJJ Software for use in The Modern .NET Show
• Editing and post-production services for this episode were provided by MB Podcast Services

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Music created by Mono Memory Music, licensed to RJJ Software for use in The Modern .NET Show.

Editing and post-production services for this episode were provided by MB Podcast Services.

Hey everyone, and welcome back to The Modern .NET Show; the premier .NET podcast, focusing entirely on the knowledge, tools, and frameworks that all .NET developers should have in their toolbox. I'm your host Jamie Taylor, bringing you conversations with the brightest minds in the .NET ecosystem.

Today's episode is a little different from the norm. There's no guest; it's just me. And it's the first episode of season nine, and the first episode of a series that I have apparently been meaning to make for about seven years without ever noticing that I was meaning to make it.

Anyway, without further ado, let's sit back, open up a terminal, type in `dotnet new podcast` and we'll dive into the core of Modern .NET.

The full show notes, including links to some of the things we discussed and a full transcription of this episode, can be found at: https://dotnetcore.show/season-9/you-are-not-behind-why-you-are-still-on-net-framework/

• This series
  • Bridging the Gap: Taking It Upstairs, every episode's business case on one page
• Episodes referenced in this one
  • Episode 18 - The History of .NET with Richard Campbell
  • Episode 24 - Migrating from ASP.NET to ASP.NET Core with Iris Classon
  • Episode 45 - Migrating Stack Overflow to .NET Core with Nick Craver
  • Episode 46 - Migrating Umbraco to .NET Core with Bjarke Berg
  • S08E07 - Hayden Barnes on .NET NES: Why We Need a New Approach to Open Source Maintenance
• Referenced in the episode
  • Conscious Business: How to Build Value Through Values, the source of the ontological humility definition
  • .NET Rocks
  • .NET Framework lifecycle policy
• Music created by Mono Memory Music, licensed to RJJ Software for use in The Modern .NET Show
• Editing and post-production services for this episode were provided by MB Podcast Services

• Leave a rating or review
• Buy the show a coffee
• Become a patron

• Via the contact page
• Joining the Discord

Remember to rate and review the show on Apple Podcasts, Podchaser, or wherever you find your podcasts, this will help the show's audience grow. Or you can just share the show with a friend.

And don't forget to reach out via our Contact page. We're very interested in your opinion of the show, so please get in touch.

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Music created by Mono Memory Music, licensed to RJJ Software for use in The Modern .NET Show.

Editing and post-production services for this episode were provided by MB Podcast Services.

This episode of The Modern .NET Show is supported, in part, by RJJ Software's Strategic Technology Consultation Services. If you're an SME (Small to Medium Enterprise) leader wondering why your technology investments aren't delivering, or you're facing critical decisions about AI, modernization, or team productivity, let's talk.

"In the agentic world that makes a lot of people really uncomfortable because what ends up happening is the agent has it, the agent has its own ID and then interacts with your data database."— Jerry Nixon

Hey everyone, and welcome back to The Modern .NET Show; the premier .NET podcast, focusing entirely on the knowledge, tools, and frameworks that all .NET developers should have in their toolbox. I'm your host Jamie Taylor, bringing you conversations with the brightest minds in the .NET ecosystem.

Today, Jerry Nixon returned to the show to talk about SQL MCP Server, something of a new product _and_ the evolution of Data API Builder; which we talked to Jerry about back in episode three of this season (there'll be a link in the show notes). Jerry does a much better job of introducing it than I can, but suffice it to say that SQL MCP Server is an MCP Server which abstracts away intracting with a SQL database... of almost any flavour. SQL Server, CosmosDB, Postgres, you name it.

"I mean there is nothing better for any agent than saying "new session." That is how you like create better answers all the time. You might feel like you have this session, you've been training it so long and you've told it so much, it has so much context that now when you ask it, it'll finally have the answer that you're looking for."— Jerry Nixon

Along the way, Jerry shared a lot of solid gold nuggets of advice about MCP servers, best practices for interacting with agents and models, and even context management. And, of course, we talk about how simple is almost always the best solution (and how SQL MCP Server might be one of the ways for you to achieve that).

Before we jump in, a quick reminder: if The Modern .NET Show has become part of your learning journey, please consider supporting us through Patreon or Buy Me A Coffee. Every contribution helps us continue bringing you these in-depth conversations with industry experts. You'll find all the links in the show notes.

So let's sit back, open up a terminal, type in `dotnet new podcast` and we'll dive into the core of Modern .NET.

The full show notes, including links to some of the things we discussed and a full transcription of this episode, can be found at: https://dotnetcore.show/season-8/giving-ai-agents-safe-access-to-your-data-sql-mcp-server-with-jerry-nixon/

• Data API Builder & SQL MCP Serverdocumentation
• Data API Builder on GitHub
• Book time with Jerry to discuss SQL MCP an your projects
• Agentic Design Patterns by Antonia Gulli

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Music created by Mono Memory Music, licensed to RJJ Software for use in The Modern .NET Show.

Editing and post-production services for this episode were provided by MB Podcast Services.

This episode of The Modern .NET Show is supported, in part, by RJJ Software's Strategic Technology Consultation Services. If you're an SME (Small to Medium Enterprise) leader wondering why your technology investments aren't delivering, or you're facing critical decisions about AI, modernization, or team productivity, let's talk.

Hey everyone, and welcome back to The Modern .NET Show; the premier .NET podcast, focusing entirely on the knowledge, tools, and frameworks that all .NET developers should have in their toolbox. I'm your host Jamie Taylor, bringing you conversations with the brightest minds in the .NET ecosystem.

Today's episode is a little different from the norm. I waned to, temporarily, take you away from the "AI is the best thing ever/worst thing ever" news cycle, and talk to you about an open source project that I work on called "OwaspHeaders.Core"

This is the second in a two-part series about OwaspHeaders.Core and focusses on providing a timeline of the evolution of the package; but this isn't going to a be all about how great I am. I'm going to cover the lessons I learned, the choices I made, and the help that I had from the community.

Before we jump in, a quick reminder: if The Modern .NET Show has become part of your learning journey, please consider supporting us through Patreon or Buy Me A Coffee. Every contribution helps us continue bringing you these in-depth conversations with industry experts. You'll find all the links in the show notes.

Anyway, without further ado, let's sit back, open up a terminal, type in `dotnet new podcast` and we'll dive into the core of Modern .NET.

The full show notes, including links to some of the things we discussed and a full transcription of this episode, can be found at: https://dotnetcore.show/season-8/from-pentest-to-1-7-million-downloads-part-2-the-lessons-nobody-ever-taught-me/

• OwaspHeaders.Core
  • NuGet package
  • GitHub repository
  • Documentation
  • Contributors graph
  • Scott Harden's PR #96
  • mkokabi's derivative for Azure Isolated Functions
• Companion episodes
  • S07E09 - Modern .NET NuGet Packaging with Scott Harden
  • S08E02 - Compassionate Coding: Safia Abdalla's Insights on Empathy in Open-Source Development
  • Safia Abdalla's website (current role at Warp)
• Supply chain & trust
  • OpenSSF Best Practices badge for OwaspHeaders.Core (passing, 96%)
  • OpenSSF Scorecard
  • GitHub Build Provenance Attestations
  • CodeQL
  • TanStack npm Supply-Chain Compromise Postmortem (11 May 2026)
• Scott Harden
  • Scott Harden's website
  • ScottPlot
• Communities and shows mentioned
  • Coding Blocks
  • Tabs and Spaces (now retired) on Spotify
  • James Studdart (Cynical Developer)
  • Zac Braddy on LinkedIn
• NuGet packaging references
  • NuGet documentation
  • Source Link
• Historical references
  • AppVeyor
  • GitHub Actions documentation
• Part one of this series

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Music created by Mono Memory Music, licensed to RJJ Software for use in The Modern .NET Show.

Editing and post-production services for this episode were provided by MB Podcast Services.

This episode of The Modern .NET Show is supported, in part, by RJJ Software's Strategic Technology Consultation Services. If you're an SME (Small to Medium Enterprise) leader wondering why your technology investments aren't delivering, or you're facing critical decisions about AI, modernization, or team productivity, let's talk.

Hey everyone, and welcome back to The Modern .NET Show; the premier .NET podcast, focusing entirely on the knowledge, tools, and frameworks that all .NET developers should have in their toolbox. I'm your host Jamie Taylor, bringing you conversations with the brightest minds in the .NET ecosystem.

Today's episode is a little different from the norm. I waned to, temporarily, take you away from the "AI is the best thing ever/worst thing ever" news cycle, and talk to you about an open source project that I work on called "OwaspHeaders.Core"

This is the first in a two-part series about OwaspHeaders.Core and lays the ground work for why I chose to create it. Part two will be more about how I went about creating it, and the lessons I learned along the way, which are not just about HTTP headers and building your own NuGet package, and some of the amazing contributions that the community has put in place.

The three main goals for this two-part series are to talk people through the real-world problem that exists in all web frameworks and how we can all work together to solve it, to talk you through what I believe good open source stewardship looks like, and to talk through what creating and publishing a NuGet package looks like.

Before we jump in, a quick reminder: if The Modern .NET Show has become part of your learning journey, please consider supporting us through Patreon or Buy Me A Coffee. Every contribution helps us continue bringing you these in-depth conversations with industry experts. You'll find all the links in the show notes.

Anyway, without further ado, let's sit back, open up a terminal, type in `dotnet new podcast` and we'll dive into the core of Modern .NET.

The full show notes, including links to some of the things we discussed and a full transcription of this episode, can be found at: https://dotnetcore.show/season-8/from-pentest-to-1-7-million-downloads-part-1-the-headers-id-never-heard-of/

• OwaspHeaders.Core documentation
• OwaspHeaders.Core on NuGet
• OWASP Secure Headers Project
• Episodes featuring Tanya Jana:
  • Episode 77 - Application Security
  • Episode 105 - More App Security
  • S07E11 - The Security Expert Speaks
• Troy Hunt
• securityheaders.com
• Abel Wang ("Don't Accept The Defaults")

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Music created by Mono Memory Music, licensed to RJJ Software for use in The Modern .NET Show.

Editing and post-production services for this episode were provided by MB Podcast Services.

This episode of The Modern .NET Show is supported, in part, by RJJ Software's Strategic Technology Consultation Services. If you're an SME (Small to Medium Enterprise) leader wondering why your technology investments aren't delivering, or you're facing critical decisions about AI, modernization, or team productivity, let's talk.

"The common definition of AI is a chatbot. And this is&helip; So something we haven't really mentioned is that .NET MAUI it's an evolution of Xamarin, which was the previous name and the previous platform for cross-platform development. And as a Xamarin developer, I was just, you know, adding the chatbot to an application was really an offline one."— Codrina Merigo

Hey everyone, and welcome back to The Modern .NET Show; the premier .NET podcast, focusing entirely on the knowledge, tools, and frameworks that all .NET developers should have in their toolbox. I'm your host Jamie Taylor, bringing you conversations with the brightest minds in the .NET ecosystem.

Today, we are joined by Codina Merigo to talk about the cross section of .NET MAUI and AI, her new book "AI-Enabled Apps with .NET MAUI", and some of the scenarios where you might want to include AI in your applications.

"To get privacy by design nowadays is really impossible. So if you need to really have something disconnected from the internet maybe you'll need a tiny offline model that just, I don't know, does speech-to-text."— Codrina Merigo

Along the way, we discuss the differences between local (on device) AI models and the frontier (online) models, we talk about where models really help with the accessibility of your applications, and we talk about where you can go to get started learning about this new world..

Before we jump in, a quick reminder: if The Modern .NET Show has become part of your learning journey, please consider supporting us through Patreon or Buy Me A Coffee. Every contribution helps us continue bringing you these in-depth conversations with industry experts. You'll find all the links in the show notes.

So let's sit back, open up a terminal, type in `dotnet new podcast` and we'll dive into the core of Modern .NET.

The full show notes, including links to some of the things we discussed and a full transcription of this episode, can be found at: https://dotnetcore.show/season-8/beyond-the-chatbot-ai-enabled-net-maui-apps-with-codrina-merigo/

• Codrina Merigo on:
  • LinkedIn
  • Bluesky
  • X (formerly Twitter)
  • GitHub
• AI-Enabled Apps with .NET MAUI

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Music created by Mono Memory Music, licensed to RJJ Software for use in The Modern .NET Show.

Editing and post-production services for this episode were provided by MB Podcast Services.

This episode of The Modern .NET Show is supported, in part, by RJJ Software's Strategic Technology Consultation Services. If you're an SME (Small to Medium Enterprise) leader wondering why your technology investments aren't delivering, or you're facing critical decisions about AI, modernization, or team productivity, let's talk.

"It is providing you a… unified stack, a cloud ready stack for building distributed applications where the configuration… you can say the configuration files that we usually maintain, like YAML files, XML files, json files. So it is generally taken care of those nitty gritties."— Joydip Kanjilal

Hey everyone, and welcome back to The Modern .NET Show; the premier .NET podcast, focusing entirely on the knowledge, tools, and frameworks that all .NET developers should have in their toolbox. I'm your host Jamie Taylor, bringing you conversations with the brightest minds in the .NET ecosystem.

Today, Joydip Kanjilal returned to the show to talk about Aspire and where it fits in the modern enterprise application stack. We also talk about how Aspire isn't just for microservices or nanoservices, it will work quite well with modular monoliths, too. As long as your application code isn't highly coupled.

"Maintaining large scale distributed systems requires deep visibility into… how the services are interacting, how the services are behaving over a period of time. So that helps enterprises to understand how the applications are behaving. If something goes wrong, what went wrong? Why is it that the application is not being able to scale? why is it not… able to handle, more you know, requests in a specific period? What are the security loopholes and everything?"— Joydip Kanjilal

One side note: we recorded this episode shortly before Aspire was rebranded from ".NET Aspire". So if you're listening in wondering, "wait. That's not what it's called," please bear with us because we both used the old branding for half of the episode. Let's hope that the PM for Aspire, Maddy Montaquila, doesn't notice. Sorry Maddy.

Before we jump in, a quick reminder: if The Modern .NET Show has become part of your learning journey, please consider supporting us through Patreon or Buy Me A Coffee. Every contribution helps us continue bringing you these in-depth conversations with industry experts. You'll find all the links in the show notes.

Anyway, without further ado, let's sit back, open up a terminal, type in `dotnet new podcast` and we'll dive into the core of Modern .NET.

The full show notes, including links to some of the things we discussed and a full transcription of this episode, can be found at: https://dotnetcore.show/season-8/aspirifying-the-enterprise-building-modern-apps-with-aspire-with-joydip-kanjilal/

• Joydip's website
• Joydip's blog
• Joydip's GitHub
• Joydip's newsletter

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Music created by Mono Memory Music, licensed to RJJ Software for use in The Modern .NET Show.

Editing and post-production services for this episode were provided by MB Podcast Services.

This episode of The Modern .NET Show is supported, in part, by RJJ Software's Strategic Technology Consultation Services. If you're an SME (Small to Medium Enterprise) leader wondering why your technology investments aren't delivering, or you're facing critical decisions about AI, modernization, or team productivity, let's talk.

"A lot of people go to conferences and they do conference-driven development. They come back with all these great ideas. And you know what? I'm guilty. I speak at conferences and I give lots of ideas. But they're ideas and you don't have to take every idea and apply it when you get back to the office."— Chris Woodruff

Hey everyone, and welcome back to The Modern .NET Show; the premier .NET podcast, focusing entirely on the knowledge, tools, and frameworks that all .NET developers should have in their toolbox. I'm your host Jamie Taylor, bringing you conversations with the brightest minds in the .NET ecosystem.

Today, we're joined by Chris Woodruff to talk simplicity, which is his overarching philosophy when it comes to working with code; whether that's developing, architecting, or interacting with decision makers: simplicity matters.

"Simplicity also reflects in cost. Because I've found all these studies that say that most companies that start putting solutions out on the cloud pay a lot more than they should."— Chris Woodruff

Along the way, we talked about how simplicity goes further than the code we write and into how we choose to host our applications, either in the cloud or on prem. Arguably, most of the time, an application which has a simpler architecture will be cheaper to host.

Before we jump in, a quick reminder: if The Modern .NET Show has become part of your learning journey, please consider supporting us through Patreon or Buy Me A Coffee. Every contribution helps us continue bringing you these in-depth conversations with industry experts. You'll find all the links in the show notes.

Anyway, without further ado, let's sit back, open up a terminal, type in `dotnet new podcast` and we'll dive into the core of Modern .NET.

The full show notes, including links to some of the things we discussed and a full transcription of this episode, can be found at: https://dotnetcore.show/season-8/simplicity-first-why-complexity-is-not-sophistication-with-chris-woodruff/

• Chris' blog
• Chris on Bluesky
• Chris on LinkedIn
• Simplicity First

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Music created by Mono Memory Music, licensed to RJJ Software for use in The Modern .NET Show.

Editing and post-production services for this episode were provided by MB Podcast Services.

This episode of The Modern .NET Show is supported, in part, by RJJ Software's Strategic Technology Consultation Services. If you're an SME (Small to Medium Enterprise) leader wondering why your technology investments aren't delivering, or you're facing critical decisions about AI, modernization, or team productivity, let's talk.

"The first measurement could be actually someone from the, so-called business, stating that, "oh gosh, this is so slow." That would be like the coarse grained measurement that you can sometimes receive for free"— Szymon Kulec

Hey everyone, and welcome back to The Modern .NET Show; the premier .NET podcast, focusing entirely on the knowledge, tools, and frameworks that all .NET developers should have in their toolbox. I'm your host Jamie Taylor, bringing you conversations with the brightest minds in the .NET ecosystem.

Today, we're joined by Szymon Kulec to talk about systems programming in .NET. But that's just the surface level detail of what we talk about. We do a deep-dive into some of the corners of .NET and C# that a lot of engineers hardly ever get the chance to cover. This is more than your standard, surface level conversation about C# and .NET.

"Maybe sometimes you will actually create a thread. Something that you don't do nowadays in .NET, because you know what you are doing and you want to own the specific thread for or your own specific purpose."— Szymon Kulec

Along the way, we talked about how developers who are using C# and .NET should think about learning the deeper levels of the language and how things work under the covers. Knowing how the JIT works with your code will help you to write more performant code, for sure.

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