The Monocle Banking Podcast

In this episode, Professor David Bach of IMD Business School sat down with Michael Avery to take a compelling look at the leadership capabilities CEOs need to navigate today’s new era of complexity. From geopolitical fragmentation and the rapid advance of AI to shifting trade dynamics and climate pressures, they unpacked how these forces are rewriting strategic priorities for CEOs worldwide. The conversation also examined Africa’s rising strategic importance and what these changes mean for markets like South Africa.

To unpack the fast-shifting world of retail banking in South Africa, Michael Avery sat down with Mutsa Chironga, Managing Executive, Personal Banking at Nedbank. Mutsa shared how customer behaviour, data, and AI are reshaping the industry and offered insights into how convergence across retail, telco, and mobility could redefine banking by 2026.

Following the release of The Spell, David Buckham joined Michael Avery to unpack the book’s key themes. Drawing on examples like Saudi Arabia’s Project NEOM and the global AI race, David explained how powerful narratives reveal the dangers of unchecked power, complicit institutions, and belief systems masquerading as progress.

In this episode, Michael Avery spoke with Jeff Gable, Chief Economist at Absa, and Precious Dube, Macroeconomist for Broader Africa at RMB, about the ninth annual Absa Africa Financial Markets Index, which measures financial market maturity across 29 African nations.

They discussed Africa’s growing financial resilience, progress in market reforms, and the continent’s shift from aid dependency to investment-led growth. Through examples across key economies, the conversation highlighted how reform, innovation, and regional collaboration are shaping Africa’s economic future.

To understand what it really takes to make data a strategic asset, Michael Avery was joined by Prashant Rijhumal, Chief Data & Analytics Officer at RMB.

They unpacked the changing relationship between data, human judgment, and AI - exploring how automation, predictive insights, and ethical governance are redefining decision-making in investment banking.

Prashant also shared practical lessons and a forward-looking view on how data leaders can bridge the gap between information and impact.

In this episode, Michael Avery is joined by Nunu Ngoasheng, Lead of South Africa’s Just Energy Transition (JET) Funding Platform, to discuss how her team is making sure climate finance reaches the communities that need it most. Nunu explains how the platform connects funders with grassroots projects and tackles barriers facing local enterprises. She also shares plans for a pooled funding model that unites investors and philanthropies to better support community-driven climate solutions — a step toward making South Africa’s energy transition truly “just”.

Africa is warming faster than the rest of the world, making climate risk not only a major financial challenge but also a growing opportunity for the continent’s banking sector. Michael Avery speaks with Yaseen Lockhat, Senior Specialist in Sustainable Finance at the Banking Association of South Africa (BASA), about how this reality is pushing banks to adjust traditional risk models, data systems, and lending practices. The discussion highlights how African banks are evolving their approach to sustainability - turning climate challenges into opportunities for growth, resilience, and long-term impact.

In this week’s episode, Michael Avery sat down with Lino Ferreira, who reflects on the lessons learned after selling their family business, The Fruitspot, to Massmart - and navigating the complex realities of M&A. Starting over in a 30m² kitchen, Lino and his son built Ferreira Fresh into a powerhouse moving over 250 tons of produce daily. After weathering the impact of COVID and forming a strategic 40% partnership with Vuna Partners, they’re now targeting R2 billion in revenue.

Since its launch in 2019, PayJustNow has processed over R11 billion in transactions, opening access to credit for millions of previously unbanked consumers. Michael Avery sat down with the platform’s Chief Data and Analytics Officer, Mark McChlery, to discuss how South Africa’s Buy Now Pay Later (BNPL) sector is reshaping financial inclusion.

Mark shared how PayJustNow is building financial identity through transaction data, as well as how they’re addressing global competition, risk management, and the future of regulation in this rapidly evolving space.

Despite the fintech hype, cash still accounts for 56% of transactions in South Africa. Michael Avery sat down with Ontiretse Modise, Standard Bank CIB’s newly appointed Head of Payments, about what’s really driving Africa’s evolving payment landscape. From trust and education to merchant acceptance, they explored the barriers to broader adoption, the shift among younger generations, and how collaboration with fintechs, telcos, and regulators is shaping the future of payments across the continent.