In this episode of The Nature of Invisible Things podcast, I am joined by erotic ceremonialist, healer, and fellow 8th house Libra sun, grace allerdice.

Together, we explore the similarities in our astrology and interests, including death, walking the path of devotion, and magick. We discuss the qualities and challenges of being deeply Venusian, the importance of self-discovery, and the power in alchemical partnerships. Our conversation covers spiritual growth, initiation processes, and the transformative power of desire, with grace sharing her personal journey from her evangelical upbringing to embracing magical practices and embodiment.

I am so excited for you to listen in—this whole conversation was such a treat! You can also watch this episode on YouTube.

Welcome, grace!

Grace’s bio:

grace allerdice is an erotic devotion coach, healer, ceremonialist, and teacher whose synthesis of embodiment, eroticism, magic, and spiritual traditions brings a powerful alchemy for modern mystics.

With 20 years of teaching movement and embodiment to all ages, she has developed a unique ability to facilitate powerful transformational spaces and guide people toward their soul — the part of you that is already whole and already Knows.

As a ceremonialist-priestess, grace brings deep experiential knowledge that extends far beyond academic study. She has cultivated rare expertise in practicing presence, navigating the emergent, and fostering profound intimacy with clients. This artistic background, combined with her certifications as a Pilates and yoga instructor, provides her with practical somatic tools for translating mystical concepts into lived, physical experience.

She is the host of the highly rated home—body podcast, and she facilitates transformational courses, workshops, and retreats both in person and online. She lives in Atlanta, Georgia, with her hot husband, dogs, garden, and so many books.

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In this episode of The Nature of Invisible Things podcast, I’m thrilled to welcome back Britten LaRue—teacher, author, astrologer, and fellow “nerd for gnosis.”

Join us as we celebrate Britten’s seven-and-a-half-year entrepreneurial journey and discover how she balanced a long-term vision with daily adaptability to grow her astrology business at scale. We delve into how the evolution of her practice inspired her Emergence Astrology approach and her new offering, Living Emergence.

Our conversation covers musings on personal and collective transformation, embracing paradox, and offers plenty of bite-sized insights for forging your own path. Tune in as we geek out on living emergently and becoming approachable to our future selves—or watch this episode on YouTube!

Britten’s Bio:

Britten LaRue, M.A. is a teacher, author, and astrologer known for helping big-hearted humans tap into and embody their malefic parts—the fierce, boundaried, and truth-telling aspects of the self that make clarity, empowerment, and specificity possible. Through her framework of Emergence Astrology and her year-round ecosystem Living Emergence, Britten guides mystics, intuitives, and creative visionaries in remembering their own wisdom and unshaming their magic.

A former art historian turned speech-artist of astrology, Britten’s teaching merges scholarly precision with intuitive revelation, inviting her students to root their magic in lived reality. She is the host of the beloved podcast Moon to Moon, co-host of Crystal Ballers, and author of Living Astrology: How to Weave the Wisdom of All 12 Signs into Your Everyday Life.

At the heart of all her work is a devotion to collective transformation through intimacy and voice, helping others trust themselves again with the reckless freedom they deserve.

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Other resources mentioned in this episode:

The Rape of the Lock, Aubrey Beardsley

Comedienne Iliza Shlesinger: Elder Millennial

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Throughout my journey to deepen my understanding of myself in a relationship, I’ve made many mistakes. In this episode of The Nature of Invisible Things podcast, I share some of my experiences with you, including an experience where I said no to a business opportunity that didn’t align with my values, marking a significant shift by breaking the pattern of prioritizing the needs of others over my own.

Join me and my guest, acupuncturist and energy worker Leah Lubin, as we discuss our evolving approaches to all types of relationships in the astrological 7th house, including romantic relationships, business partnerships, and platonic friendships. Additionally, we examine how understanding our personal power in relationships affects the 5th house of pleasure and romance, as well as the 11th house of acquaintances and groups to which you belong.

Tune in as we explore themes of personal growth, self-awareness, and the importance of maintaining boundaries while fostering meaningful connections, and hear our take on some unusual ‘soulmate’ connections.

Leah and I also discuss our partnership for SOVEREIGN, an experimental container for those ready to explore more profound intimacy with themselves by expanding their view of 1:1 relationships beyond romance to include close friendships and business partnerships.

Are you done with crumbs and ready for something much more satisfying? SOVEREIGN Transformational Partnership begins on September 28th.

Welcome back, Leah!

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Leah’s Bio:

Leah Lubin is an acupuncture physician, energy healer, and soul guide based in Tampa, Florida. She is passionate about helping others connect with their inner child and move through life with greater ease, clarity, and joy.

While imbuing protection, Leah energizes self-compassion, curiosity, and self-trust, allowing her patients and clients to experience wholeness, to feel the deep well of peace, safety, and love within their own being. Along her own sacred journey, Leah has learned the profound healing that can come from the pure (and sometimes uncomfortable) surrender to grace, allowing the heart and soul to be nurtured.

Leah also loves being a bridge between Western minds and Eastern energy concepts, teaching the multidimensional nature of energy medicine in the human body.

She is an artist, auntie, cat mom, magic maker, and booty shaker.

Venusian at heart, she always stops to smell the flowers.

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In this episode of The Nature of Invisible Things podcast, I am so pleased to welcome back astrologer and soul worker, Amanda Moreno, who shares her Pluto square Pluto transit with us.

Tune in as she shares her experience of this midlife transit that includes a series of health crises and complications, and how these events impacted her relationships, career, and well-being.

Please note, there is a moderate content warning for this episode. While we do not go into prolonged graphic detail, we wanted to remind folks to take care of themselves if needed.

Specifically, Amanda notes, “for whatever reason, my chart, my life... the astrology shows itself in very concrete and sometimes extreme ways. And that's not the case for everyone. I'm really inviting people to listen lightly...We are going into the realms of fear a little bit here with Pluto transits.”

So join us as we explore Pluto's significance in astrology, particularly its role in deep-seated emotional patterns and unconscious coping mechanisms linked to early experiences and past lives.

Welcome back, Amanda!

Amanda’s Bio:

Amanda is an astrologer, soul worker, writer, and educator based in Seattle, WA. She is an anarchistic(ally) non-monogamous witch who prefers to avoid labels but admits to being an introvert. Amanda obtained her Master’s degree in Depth Psychology with a focus on how astrology can help us navigate personal and collective rites of passage. Throughout her 15 years of working with clients and students, she has remained passionate about working with astrology as an embodied, revelatory, socially conscious, and living way of knowing that is a perfect pal when it comes to dealing with the cascades of collective shifts we are living through. Amanda’s deepest honor in life is helping folks connect with their soul stories. Her approach is deeply influenced by animism, witchcraft, pleasure, empathy, collective liberation, and her love of music and the land.

Connect with Amanda:

You can book a session with Amanda and check out her work and her podcast at aquarianspirals.com, follow her on Instagram, and read her writing at The Astrophile on Substack.

View Amanda’s Working Midlife Transits Lecture NORWAC 2025

Coming Soon: Evolutionary Astrology Immersion

Connect with Erin:

You can find Erin at slowmagick.com, on Instagram, and The Nature of Invisible Things on Substack.

SOVEREIGN 2025 begins September 21st.

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In this episode of The Nature of Invisible Things podcast, I welcome artist and astrologer Janessa Quinn of By Jove Astrology. Together, we explore some of our personal experiences with astrology, sharing insights about our fallen chart placements and how they’ve changed over time. We also hear about Janessa's transition from casual interest to professional astrology practice. We also discussed our experience at the Northwest Astrology Conference (NORWAC) in May, which continues to influence our practices and offerings.

We explore how the cultural shift in astrology, from predictive pedagogy to more personalized experiences, has impacted its role in navigating life's challenges and transitions by embracing paradox.

Welcome, Janessa!

Janessa’s Bio:

Janessa Quinn is an artist, astrologer, and mom extraordinaire located in Minnesota. As a tender of flame and keeper of hearth, she is here to inspire and encourage others to liberate themselves by remembering their fire within. With the help of her 8th house Libra sun and fiery chart ruler, Jupiter in Aries, Janessa illuminates the treasure we can only find in the dark and boldly shares it with the world via her many offerings, including one-on-one consultations, workshops, writing, and her podcast, The Astro Garden.

Connect with Janessa:

You can find out more about Janessa’s work at her website, byjoveastrology.com, or on Instagram. Janessa’s podcast is available on all streaming platforms, including YouTube, and her writing is available both on her website and her Substack.

Connect with Erin:

You can find Erin at slowmagick.com, on Instagram, and The Nature of Invisible Things on Substack.

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In this episode of The Nature of Invisible Things podcast, I'm joined once more by my friend Leah for a joyful and uplifting conversation about the magic of the heart and how to tap into its compassionate wisdom to transform our everyday experiences.

Together, we explored the significance of the heart in traditional Chinese medicine and its connection to summer, discussing its role as a ruler and its relationship to emotions and other organs.

We examine the heart's role in communication and perception, including its scientifically researched electromagnetic energy and its connection to astrology and cultural perspectives on emotions.

Join us as we invoke heart magick and explore how it can assist us in times of societal change.

Welcome back, Leah!

Leah’s Bio:

Leah Lubin is an acupuncture physician, energy healer, and soul guide based in Tampa, Florida. She is passionate about helping others connect with their inner child and move through life with greater ease, clarity, and joy.

While imbuing protection, Leah energizes self-compassion, curiosity, and self-trust, allowing her patients and clients to experience wholeness, to feel the deep well of peace, safety, and love within their own being. Along her own sacred journey, Leah has learned the profound healing that can come from the pure (and sometimes uncomfortable) surrender to grace, allowing the heart and soul to be nurtured.

Leah also loves being a bridge between Western minds and Eastern energy concepts, teaching the multidimensional nature of energy medicine in the human body.

She is an artist, auntie, cat mom, magic maker, and booty shaker.

Venusian at heart, she always stops to smell the flowers.

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You can find Erin at slowmagick.com, @slow.magick on Instagram, and The Nature of Invisible Things on Substack.

Other resources mentioned in this episode:

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Science of the Heart Volume Two, conducted by the HeartMath Institute

Listen to Leah’s TNIT episode from Season One

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In this episode of The Nature of Invisible Things podcast, I am joined by Kilie Crowley, my friend, former co-worker, and end-of-life doula, for another conversation bursting at the seams with so many gems of insight and wisdom about moving through change.

I had the pleasure of meeting Kilie in 2021 while working in death care during the COVID-19 pandemic. This experience forever changed me and became part of my growth trajectory. Tune in as we share our experiences with grief and loss, personal development through service, and how we stay present in difficult situations in everyday life.

Together, we explore what the living can learn about moving through change from the dying, and what the living can do to help the dying as they encounter the most significant change in our human experience.

Welcome, Kilie!

Kilie’s Bio:

Kilie Crowley pays the bills and feeds her soul working as a hospice liaison and account support for BK Books. She is also a trained death doula. For Kilie, it all feels like a calling, and she finds a lot of comfort in that, as she doesn’t need to work so hard to hopscotch her ego. Kilie feels most at home in the world when she is in service to something greater, but also really enjoys wine and sleeping in.

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Other people and resources mentioned in this episode:

Barbara Karnes Books

Hospice Nurse Julie

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Most folks are familiar with the infamous Saturn return, which occurs approximately at age 28 to 30. But did you know we experience many Saturn cycles throughout our lives? In this episode of The Nature of Invisible Things, I continue the series on midlife transits with listener favorite and therapeutic intuitive, Natasha Levinger. Join us as we discuss her experiences with Saturn's influence on her life and personal growth through an astrological and contemplative review of her birth chart. Natasha, an Aquarian Sun conjunct Venus with a Libra Moon, describes how Saturn's presence in Taurus in her third house contributed to her finding avenues for self-reflection, communication, and eventually her professional path. We also hear about her challenging experiences at age 21 during her second Saturn square that assisted her in creating inner structure and coping skills, and the transformative impact of her mother's death in 2012 during her second Saturn opposition.

Also, in this episode, I have a personal and profound experience that, combined with Venus’ retrograde and Saturn conjunct my Ascendant, led to a pretty big breakthrough in my personal life. I was going to edit it, but ultimately, it felt right to share it, and I will give an update at the end.

Welcome back, Natasha!

Natasha’s Bio:

Natasha Levinger is a therapeutic intuitive, psychic teacher, and inner child healing expert who helps people break free from the patterns they absolutely did not sign up for. She’s the author of Healing Your Inner Child: Reparenting Yourself for a More Secure and Loving Life (now in three languages, so your inner child can feel seen globally), and writes the Substack newsletter Coming Home, a lovingly irreverent guide to becoming the person your inner child actually wanted to grow up to be. She also co-hosts Crystal Ballers, a podcast where psychic insight, healing tools, and sass coexist peacefully. If you’ve ever felt too sensitive, too magical, or too tired of everyone’s nonsense, you’ll probably feel right at home.

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Coming Home on Substack

Crystal Ballers Podcast

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You can find Erin at slowmagick.com, @slow.magick on Instagram, and The Nature of Invisible Things on Substack.

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In this episode of The Nature of Invisible Things podcast, I am pleased to share my conversation with author, teacher, and Aquarian Sun, Perdita Finn. I first encountered her work in 2020, and it’s been a cornerstone of my personal development since. Her writing, along with that of her husband, Clark Strand, and her daughter, Sophie, was pivotal in helping me find my way home and reconnect to the miracle of my human life.

Join us as Perdita shares her exploration of the "nature of invisible things" and miraculous experiences with her ancestral connections. We discuss the role of the dead in our lives, and Perdita shares the perspective shift that comes when we recognize the long story of our souls—a much-needed balm for these times.

Our conversation explores deep spiritual and metaphysical themes around connecting with our beloved dead, the unseen realms, and our relationship to the earth. You’ll also hear about Whole Earth Animism, a program she and her husband Clark offer in March 2025. This program aims to reconnect humans with the natural world and foster a deeper understanding of our place in the cosmos.

Welcome, Perdita!

Perdita’s Bio:

Perdita Finn is the co-founder, with her husband Clark Strand, of the feral fellowship The Way of the Rose, which inspired their book The Way of the Rose: The Radical Path of the Divine Feminine Hidden in the Rosary. They are currently at work on their next book together Circles Not Lines: Spiritual Community Beyond Patriarchy. To find out more about her devotion to “ecology not theology,” visit wayoftherose.org.

In addition to extensive study with Zen masters, priests, spirit workers, and healers, she apprenticed with the psychic Susan Saxman, with whom she wrote The Reluctant Psychic. Perdita Finn now teaches popular workshops on Getting to Know the Dead. Participants are empowered to activate the miracles in their own lives with the help of their ancestors and recover their own intuitive magic. Her book Take Back the Magic: Conversations with the Unseen World is an intimate journey through her recovery of these lost ways. She speaks widely on how to collaborate with those on the other side, on the urgent necessity of a new romantic animism, and on the sobriety that emerges when we claim the long story of our souls. Her next book is the forthcoming Mothers of Magic: Recovering the Love at the Heart of the World.

She lives with her family in the moss-filled shadows of the Catskill Mountains.

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Other people mentioned in this episode:

Clark Strand

Sophie Strand

Robert Moss

Caroline W. Casey

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It's been ONE YEAR here at The Nature of Invisible Things podcast! Join me for episode 11 of season two as I share a reflection and invitation. Tune in as I discuss the importance of a particular astrological subsection of Generation X and its role in navigating current and future challenges.

I also invite a co-host to join the podcast regularly. Is this YOU?!? I am seeking someone with another healing modality, art, or creativity to share the air with me!

Then, I share the magick of my new program, Devotional Astrology, starting on January 25th. This astrology course blends traditional timing techniques with modern insights to break cycles and re-enchant the world.

* Devotional astrology is about falling in love with our entire embodied experience. It's about using astrology as a language to bridge the logical left brain with the intuitive right brain, opening us to the co-creative possibility of mystery.

* The world needs our magic, creativity, and art right now. Devotional astrology is my offering to help people connect with the archetypal, numinous, and imaginal realms to co-create change.

Follow Erin:

You can find Erin at slowmagick.com, @slow.magick on Instagram, and subscribe to The Nature of Invisible Things on Substack.

Do you love TNIT? Are you interested in co-hosting with me? I’d love to hear from you. Use this link to send me a message and let me know.

Re-enchant the world with me in 2025:

Devotional Astrology will cover astrological empowerment, cosmic communion, and synchronicity. It's open to beginners and experienced astrologers who want to deepen their practice in a devotional and applied way. Culturally, we’ve studied astrology enough—it is time to use our knowledge in everyday experiences.

Check out the Devotional Astrology course page

My holy heart says YES - listener/subscriber discount $125/mo.

Other people & resources mentioned in this episode:

LA Wildfire Relief

The Alphabet Vs. The Goddess by Leonard Shlain

Staying with the Trouble: Making Kin in the Chthulucene by Donna J. Haraway

Barbara Karnes

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