In this episode of The Nature of Invisible Things podcast, I welcome artist and astrologer Janessa Quinn of By Jove Astrology. Together, we explore some of our personal experiences with astrology, sharing insights about our fallen chart placements and how they’ve changed over time. We also hear about Janessa's transition from casual interest to professional astrology practice. We also discussed our experience at the Northwest Astrology Conference (NORWAC) in May, which continues to influence our practices and offerings.

We explore how the cultural shift in astrology, from predictive pedagogy to more personalized experiences, has impacted its role in navigating life's challenges and transitions by embracing paradox.

Welcome, Janessa!

Janessa’s Bio:

Janessa Quinn is an artist, astrologer, and mom extraordinaire located in Minnesota. As a tender of flame and keeper of hearth, she is here to inspire and encourage others to liberate themselves by remembering their fire within. With the help of her 8th house Libra sun and fiery chart ruler, Jupiter in Aries, Janessa illuminates the treasure we can only find in the dark and boldly shares it with the world via her many offerings, including one-on-one consultations, workshops, writing, and her podcast, The Astro Garden.

Connect with Janessa:

You can find out more about Janessa’s work at her website, byjoveastrology.com, or on Instagram. Janessa’s podcast is available on all streaming platforms, including YouTube, and her writing is available both on her website and her Substack.

Connect with Erin:

You can find Erin at slowmagick.com, on Instagram, and The Nature of Invisible Things on Substack.

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In this episode of The Nature of Invisible Things podcast, I'm joined once more by my friend Leah for a joyful and uplifting conversation about the magic of the heart and how to tap into its compassionate wisdom to transform our everyday experiences.

Together, we explored the significance of the heart in traditional Chinese medicine and its connection to summer, discussing its role as a ruler and its relationship to emotions and other organs.

We examine the heart's role in communication and perception, including its scientifically researched electromagnetic energy and its connection to astrology and cultural perspectives on emotions.

Join us as we invoke heart magick and explore how it can assist us in times of societal change.

Welcome back, Leah!

Leah’s Bio:

Leah Lubin is an acupuncture physician, energy healer, and soul guide based in Tampa, Florida. She is passionate about helping others connect with their inner child and move through life with greater ease, clarity, and joy.

While imbuing protection, Leah energizes self-compassion, curiosity, and self-trust, allowing her patients and clients to experience wholeness, to feel the deep well of peace, safety, and love within their own being. Along her own sacred journey, Leah has learned the profound healing that can come from the pure (and sometimes uncomfortable) surrender to grace, allowing the heart and soul to be nurtured.

Leah also loves being a bridge between Western minds and Eastern energy concepts, teaching the multidimensional nature of energy medicine in the human body.

She is an artist, auntie, cat mom, magic maker, and booty shaker.

Venusian at heart, she always stops to smell the flowers.

Follow Leah:

Instagram

Feel Better Heal Better Facebook page

Follow Erin:

You can find Erin at slowmagick.com, @slow.magick on Instagram, and The Nature of Invisible Things on Substack.

Other resources mentioned in this episode:

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Science of the Heart Volume Two, conducted by the HeartMath Institute

Listen to Leah’s TNIT episode from Season One

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In this episode of The Nature of Invisible Things podcast, I am joined by Kilie Crowley, my friend, former co-worker, and end-of-life doula, for another conversation bursting at the seams with so many gems of insight and wisdom about moving through change.

I had the pleasure of meeting Kilie in 2021 while working in death care during the COVID-19 pandemic. This experience forever changed me and became part of my growth trajectory. Tune in as we share our experiences with grief and loss, personal development through service, and how we stay present in difficult situations in everyday life.

Together, we explore what the living can learn about moving through change from the dying, and what the living can do to help the dying as they encounter the most significant change in our human experience.

Welcome, Kilie!

Kilie’s Bio:

Kilie Crowley pays the bills and feeds her soul working as a hospice liaison and account support for BK Books. She is also a trained death doula. For Kilie, it all feels like a calling, and she finds a lot of comfort in that, as she doesn’t need to work so hard to hopscotch her ego. Kilie feels most at home in the world when she is in service to something greater, but also really enjoys wine and sleeping in.

Follow Kilie:

Instagram

LinkedIn

Follow Erin:

You can find Erin at slowmagick.com, @slow.magick on Instagram, and The Nature of Invisible Things on Substack.

Other people and resources mentioned in this episode:

Barbara Karnes Books

Hospice Nurse Julie

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Most folks are familiar with the infamous Saturn return, which occurs approximately at age 28 to 30. But did you know we experience many Saturn cycles throughout our lives? In this episode of The Nature of Invisible Things, I continue the series on midlife transits with listener favorite and therapeutic intuitive, Natasha Levinger. Join us as we discuss her experiences with Saturn's influence on her life and personal growth through an astrological and contemplative review of her birth chart. Natasha, an Aquarian Sun conjunct Venus with a Libra Moon, describes how Saturn's presence in Taurus in her third house contributed to her finding avenues for self-reflection, communication, and eventually her professional path. We also hear about her challenging experiences at age 21 during her second Saturn square that assisted her in creating inner structure and coping skills, and the transformative impact of her mother's death in 2012 during her second Saturn opposition.

Also, in this episode, I have a personal and profound experience that, combined with Venus’ retrograde and Saturn conjunct my Ascendant, led to a pretty big breakthrough in my personal life. I was going to edit it, but ultimately, it felt right to share it, and I will give an update at the end.

Welcome back, Natasha!

Natasha’s Bio:

Natasha Levinger is a therapeutic intuitive, psychic teacher, and inner child healing expert who helps people break free from the patterns they absolutely did not sign up for. She’s the author of Healing Your Inner Child: Reparenting Yourself for a More Secure and Loving Life (now in three languages, so your inner child can feel seen globally), and writes the Substack newsletter Coming Home, a lovingly irreverent guide to becoming the person your inner child actually wanted to grow up to be. She also co-hosts Crystal Ballers, a podcast where psychic insight, healing tools, and sass coexist peacefully. If you’ve ever felt too sensitive, too magical, or too tired of everyone’s nonsense, you’ll probably feel right at home.

Follow Natasha:

Website

Coming Home on Substack

Crystal Ballers Podcast

Follow Erin:

You can find Erin at slowmagick.com, @slow.magick on Instagram, and The Nature of Invisible Things on Substack.

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In this episode of The Nature of Invisible Things podcast, I am pleased to share my conversation with author, teacher, and Aquarian Sun, Perdita Finn. I first encountered her work in 2020, and it’s been a cornerstone of my personal development since. Her writing, along with that of her husband, Clark Strand, and her daughter, Sophie, was pivotal in helping me find my way home and reconnect to the miracle of my human life.

Join us as Perdita shares her exploration of the "nature of invisible things" and miraculous experiences with her ancestral connections. We discuss the role of the dead in our lives, and Perdita shares the perspective shift that comes when we recognize the long story of our souls—a much-needed balm for these times.

Our conversation explores deep spiritual and metaphysical themes around connecting with our beloved dead, the unseen realms, and our relationship to the earth. You’ll also hear about Whole Earth Animism, a program she and her husband Clark offer in March 2025. This program aims to reconnect humans with the natural world and foster a deeper understanding of our place in the cosmos.

Welcome, Perdita!

Perdita’s Bio:

Perdita Finn is the co-founder, with her husband Clark Strand, of the feral fellowship The Way of the Rose, which inspired their book The Way of the Rose: The Radical Path of the Divine Feminine Hidden in the Rosary. They are currently at work on their next book together Circles Not Lines: Spiritual Community Beyond Patriarchy. To find out more about her devotion to “ecology not theology,” visit wayoftherose.org.

In addition to extensive study with Zen masters, priests, spirit workers, and healers, she apprenticed with the psychic Susan Saxman, with whom she wrote The Reluctant Psychic. Perdita Finn now teaches popular workshops on Getting to Know the Dead. Participants are empowered to activate the miracles in their own lives with the help of their ancestors and recover their own intuitive magic. Her book Take Back the Magic: Conversations with the Unseen World is an intimate journey through her recovery of these lost ways. She speaks widely on how to collaborate with those on the other side, on the urgent necessity of a new romantic animism, and on the sobriety that emerges when we claim the long story of our souls. Her next book is the forthcoming Mothers of Magic: Recovering the Love at the Heart of the World.

She lives with her family in the moss-filled shadows of the Catskill Mountains.

Follow Perdita:

Instagram

Facebook

Substack

Follow Erin:

You can find Erin at slowmagick.com, @slow.magick on Instagram, and The Nature of Invisible Things on Substack.

Other people mentioned in this episode:

Clark Strand

Sophie Strand

Robert Moss

Caroline W. Casey

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It's been ONE YEAR here at The Nature of Invisible Things podcast! Join me for episode 11 of season two as I share a reflection and invitation. Tune in as I discuss the importance of a particular astrological subsection of Generation X and its role in navigating current and future challenges.

I also invite a co-host to join the podcast regularly. Is this YOU?!? I am seeking someone with another healing modality, art, or creativity to share the air with me!

Then, I share the magick of my new program, Devotional Astrology, starting on January 25th. This astrology course blends traditional timing techniques with modern insights to break cycles and re-enchant the world.

* Devotional astrology is about falling in love with our entire embodied experience. It's about using astrology as a language to bridge the logical left brain with the intuitive right brain, opening us to the co-creative possibility of mystery.

* The world needs our magic, creativity, and art right now. Devotional astrology is my offering to help people connect with the archetypal, numinous, and imaginal realms to co-create change.

Follow Erin:

You can find Erin at slowmagick.com, @slow.magick on Instagram, and subscribe to The Nature of Invisible Things on Substack.

Do you love TNIT? Are you interested in co-hosting with me? I’d love to hear from you. Use this link to send me a message and let me know.

Re-enchant the world with me in 2025:

Devotional Astrology will cover astrological empowerment, cosmic communion, and synchronicity. It's open to beginners and experienced astrologers who want to deepen their practice in a devotional and applied way. Culturally, we’ve studied astrology enough—it is time to use our knowledge in everyday experiences.

Check out the Devotional Astrology course page

My holy heart says YES - listener/subscriber discount $125/mo.

Other people & resources mentioned in this episode:

LA Wildfire Relief

The Alphabet Vs. The Goddess by Leonard Shlain

Staying with the Trouble: Making Kin in the Chthulucene by Donna J. Haraway

Barbara Karnes

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In episode ten of season two of The Nature of Invisible Things (TNIT), I am excited to share my reflection on another midlife transit: the Uranian Opposition, which occurs around age 42. This is when Uranus, the planet of disruption and innovation, frees us from Saturn's limitations and restrictions. We move further down the path of individuation and express our unique genius. Mine was a total midlife crisis of values, the impacts of which still play out today as it is when I chose the road less traveled and left behind the career I spent so much time building. Join me as I share my experiences about the challenges and gifts of this powerful transit.

Upcoming Offerings:

The Heart Talisman Ritual | January 10, 2025

Over the past seven years, I've refined and expanded this cornerstone of my practice, and I’m excited to share it with you. I’ve used it to find a partner, a place to live, and, most importantly, to navigate the unknown waters of the mysterious dark. And it has never let me down. Join me on Jan. 10th and let’s make magick together.

Devotional Astrology | Feb. 6th, 2025

Learn astrology in a supportive community this year! Join me on the first Thursday of each month through September for a heart-centered experience of the stars grounded in everyday life.

Follow Erin:

You can find Erin at slowmagick.com, @slow.magick on Instagram, and The Nature of Invisible Things on Substack.

Other people mentioned in this episode:

JP Hawthorne

Amanda Moreno

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In episode nine of season two of The Nature of Invisible Things podcast, I am so pleased to welcome back astrologer Gina Piccalo for another installment in my series honoring the transits of mid-life. Our conversation explores the Chiron return, which happens at about age 50. My own Chiron return is on the horizon, and I couldn’t think of anyone I’d rather have this chat with, as Gina’s grace and acceptance are so readily apparent in this episode.

Recorded during the Mercury Cazimi on December 5th, this episode offers a beautiful discussion about Chiron beyond the return itself. Gina offers incredible insight into her approach to this sensitive placement in her readings with clients and many avenues of exploration for your Chiron placement as “the original wound we learn to negotiate” through different seasons of life.

Welcome back, Gina!

Gina’s Bio:

Gina Piccalo's first career was in journalism, eventually landing on staff at the Los Angeles Times. She studied astrology in secret for 20 years, before earning her certifications at Kepler College in 2014. Today, Gina works one-on-one as a counseling astrologer, lecturing monthly at SoHo House Nashville, where she is the house astrologer, and recently founded the Nashville Astrology Club. Her astrology research has been published in The Mountain Astrologer and Evolving Astrologer magazines. She uses astrology to help people cultivate self-compassion and align with their true path.

Follow Gina:

Gina offers Astrology 101 at her Patreon membership, astrological analysis on her Substack, and daily guidance on Instagram.

Upcoming Offering --> Cosmos + Soul: A six-week blend of individual + group coaching, energy healing + astrology. Connect with your natal promise + your Higher Self. Plot your course for awakening in 2025.

Follow Erin:

You can find Erin at slowmagick.com, @slow.magick on Instagram, and The Nature of Invisible Things on Substack.

Other people and resources mentioned in this episode:

Gina’s TNIT episode from Season One

The minor goddess Elpis

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No, that is not a typo.

In episode eight of season two of The Nature of Invisible Things (TNIT) podcast, I am pleased to welcome back author, astrologer, and teacher Britten LaRue for an adventurous exploration and expansion of the Sagittarius archetype.

In late 2023, Britten and her boyfriend, Matt, birthed an idea into being or, perhaps, summoned a being back into collective consciousness—as there is something simultaneously old and new about Vagittarius. Together, they pondered, what does embodying the bold and unbridled audacity we associate with Sagittarius look or feel like in different body types or gender identities? And thus, Vagittarius was born.

Tune in and join us as we explore the nature of this wild beastie who refuses to be known wholly and entirely, a shapeshifter extraordinaire combining an uncontainable spirit and voracious appetite for life. The spirit of Vagittarius invites us to reject toxic certainty and fall in love with the story of our lives again and again. And it’s just getting started.

Welcome back, Britten!

Britten’s Bio:

Britten LaRue, MA, is a public astrologer, author, teacher, and intuitive guide. A self-described “recovering academic,” she left behind a twenty-year career in art history to reinvent herself at mid-life. Britten is known and loved by her community for modeling what it looks like to live from one’s dream field. Creator of Emergence Astrology, Britten’s deepest calling is to be a midwife for those in the process of birthing their own inner knowing, healing from shame, and learning to trust themselves again with the reckless freedom they deserve. Her first book, Living Astrology: How to Weave the Wisdom of the 12 Signs Into Your Everyday Life, was recently released in March 2024. She’s a Pisces Sun, Capricorn Moon, and Aries Rising.

Follow Britten:

You can find Britten online at brittenlarue.com or @brittenlarue. Her book, Living Astrology: How to Weave the Wisdom of the 12 Signs Into Your Everyday Life, is available on Amazon, Bookshop.org, and her website.

Follow Erin:

You can find Erin at slowmagick.com, @slow.magick on Instagram, and The Nature of Invisible Things on Substack.

People and other resources mentioned in this episode:

Britten’s original Vagittarius post on Instagram and Unshaming Sagittarius workshop from 2023. You can find the previous TNIT episode with Britten here.

The Substance

Sheela Na Gig

The Creative Act by Rick Rubin

TNIT Episode with Lisa Quigley

Diana Rose Harper

Martha Stewart documentary

Wild Wild Country

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Hello friend! The podcast is back! In this episode of The Nature of Invisible Things (TNIT), I continue my mini-series honoring mid-life transits by sharing my experience with the intoxicating Neptune square Neptune, which folks experience around the age of 42.

Neptune in the chart shows us how we engage with mysticism and spirituality and connect to the cosmos beyond the self. Still, it is also the planet of illusion and confusion. Join me in this exploration, and we’ll go through the looking glass together.

I’ve been under the influence of Neptune for some time, and its very nature makes it confusing to bring Neptune into form, so this episode is not a complete analysis but reflective of my experience.

I also experienced transiting Neptune, squaring all my personal planets (Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, and Mars), nodal axis, and natal Uranus before experiencing Neptune square Neptune. Recently, I had Neptune conjunct the Ascendant, and presently, Neptune is square my midheaven. That doesn’t mean I am unique, but more so a reflection of the number of times I’ve been around the Sun. It's very likely you, too, have been under the influence of Neptune but didn’t know it at the time.

In addition, I share a few ways I have honored and given expression to Neptune’s lessons and how I surrendered under states of confusion.

Enjoy!

People and other resources mentioned in this episode:

The previous episode with Lisa Quigley

The Book of Neptune by Steven Forrest

Vanessa Couto

Planets in Transit by Robert Hand

Caroline W. Casey

Do you want to talk about Neptune or something else with me? Book your session here.

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