Joe Mulhall sits down with David Renton to discuss the subject of David's new book, the rise of a far right that is becoming increasingly detached from fascism. The two discuss the contemporary history of Donald Trump, Nigel Farage, and Stephen Yaxley-Lennon (aka Tommy Robinson) as well as exploring the possibilities for antifascists to confront this new radical right threat. David’s aim, in this book, was to describe how the far right and fascism could grow further and closer over time, and outlined some of the aims for the antifascist movement in a period where we may often be confronting people without any direct links to fascism, but who nonetheless advance a similar, divisive agenda.