Exploding pagers, attacks on underwater gas pipelines and deepfake videos - we’ve entered a terrifying new realm of hybrid warfare, where the aim is to sow discord deep within our democracies. But how do you fight a war that isn’t really a war, against an invisible enemy? We visit a centre in Finland where they are urgently trying to find the answers to that question.  

Teija Tiilikainen - Director of the European Centre of Excellence for Countering Hybrid Threats. 

Elina Valtonen - Minister for Foreign Affairs of Finland 

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