The Next Chapter by Ellie Barker

Fanny is a money coach – but she did not become this until
in her fifties. She did all different jobs and shows how sometimes different twists and turns may not always be what we want the time but they take us to exactly where we are supposed to be.

 Fanny speaks honestly about her past and about her when her
family lost a lot of money – it drove her to take control of her own finances.

But she believes our relationship with money is all about mindset and we can all learn to break free from whatever it is that is holding us back. Fanny gives great practical advice about what to do if you are struggling - but most of all she believes we should not be scared of money.  Fanny believes we should treat it as an adventure and tackle it with courage and curiosity. Fanny believes we all have it in us to create exactly the life we wish, which is exactly why she’s such a wonderful guest for The Next Chapter podcast.

To learn more about Fanny you can find her at: https://fannysnaith.com/

And just in case you were wondering you can find me and my
books at elliebarkerwrites.com

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Part 2.

Reverend Clive Jennings was brought up in a council house and he says he wears his roots like a badge. Although he loved drama and wanted to be an actor, he joined the police and worked in the Firearms Department, VIP Protection, The Special Branch and the Counter Terrorist Branch too. But then life changed for Clive and he became a Vicar in the wonderful town of Clevedon.

Clive has experienced so much and has seen all the different sides of life. But he believes  - whether through his work in the police or as a Vicar - it’s all about connection. This is what we're all looking for, whoever we are. We discuss so much in this conversation - from firearms, bomb scene management, protecting VIPs to love, loneliness and where we should go when we're feeling lost. There’s so much to think about in this conversation - and I know how busy many of you are - I divided it into two episodes.  There is so much at the moment about the dark side of life, it's easy to forget there is so much warmth and love too - and that there are people like Clive. He’s kind, thoughtful and so generous with his thoughts. He believes sometimes, without realising we can all lose the joy in our lives and joy is what we all need, as long as we allow it in. Well, this conversation was joyous to record. I hope you enjoy meeting Clive as much as I did. 

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Part 1.

Reverend Clive Jennings was brought up in a council house and he says he wears his roots like a badge. Although he loved drama and wanted to be an actor, he joined the police and worked in the Firearms Department, VIP Protection, The Special Branch and the Counter Terrorist Branch too. But then life changed for Clive and he became a Vicar in the wonderful town of Clevedon.

Clive has experienced so much and has seen all the different sides of life. But he believes  - whether through his work in the police or as a Vicar - it’s all about connection. This is what we're all looking for, whoever we are. We discuss so much in this conversation - from firearms, bomb scene management, protecting VIPs to love, loneliness and where we should go when we're feeling lost. There’s so much to think about in this conversation - and I know how busy many of you are - I divided it into two episodes.  There is so much at the moment about the dark side of life, it's easy to forget there is so much warmth and love too - and that there are people like Clive. He’s kind, thoughtful and so generous with his thoughts. He believes sometimes, without realising we can all lose the joy in our lives and joy is what we all need, as long as we allow it in. Well, this conversation was joyous to record. I hope you enjoy meeting Clive as much as I did. 

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Cat, in her own words, questioned school and authority when
she was a child, but navigated her own way through this, so who better to work with young people now and help them find their own?

Cat trained as an Occupational Therapist and she worked in a psychiatric unit for several years.
But after many years of supporting children and young people in statutory services she decided to ‘pack up her tool-kit’ as she describes it. The system, she believes is broken, so now she’s helping parents access what they need, when they need it.

Cat works as child and young person’s therapist and is also
the Boxing Therapy Manager at the charity, Empire Fighting Chance, where she has helped thousands and thousands of young people turn transform their lives.
(We’ve also interviewed the founder, Martin Bisp on this very podcast).

Cat teaches them techniques not just to cope but thrive as
the person they are – in short, how to be their true selves. She is all about
having fun, and gives some great advice for us adults too – but warning alert: there’s some tough love in there.

Cat speaks openly about where she thinks we are all going
wrong with our young people, but she gives brilliant advice about how she believes we can fix this. Her mission is to take away stigma and labels and teach children what they can’t learn in school – Cat does this in such a warm and unique way, I learned so much from this conversation and I hope you will
too.

You can learn more about Cat and her work at : https://www.findyourhappiness.me/

And - in case you've forgotten - you can find me and my books here: https://www.elliebarkerwrites.com/

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Now, most of us know Maggie from the days of Swap Shop. Millions of children tuned in every Saturday – and she helped transform weekend mornings. Noel Edmonds, Keith Chegwin, John Craven and then Maggie bringing joy to our screens.  Hours of live television every week (top fact, they only ever rehearsed the first 30 seconds) and their audience was so big they attracted the biggest stars in the world. 

She then moved to Tomorrow’s World where for 8 years she helped change the way we all think about science and technology. This all helped inspire her to begin her own Next Chapter and set up the charity Teen Tech which 15 years later she and her team are still changing and transforming the way young people think about science and maths.

Maggie believes it’s all about learning – and we must all keep doing this, not just for us but for our children’s too. 

Maggie is open, honest and humble. She tells us how she applied for the Swap Shop job without even knowing about it and how self-doubt nearly cost her that job at Tomorrow's World. But a long time ago she taught herself to recognise her fear and she promised to say 'yes' more. I’m so pleased she said yes to this conversation..

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This is the last conversation in this series and what a way to finish!

I loved this when I first recorded it but when I listened to it back, I learnt even more.

Andrea is even more open and honest in this second half. She talks about how appearing on a reality show changed everything for her. How she made her decision to leave a huge, high profile job like the host of Loose Women and what happened the day she announced it on air. (Spoiler alert… everything she’d been planning fell apart.)

Andrea also gives some tough but great advice. She tells us how she copes when someone is making her feel inferior and why she believes we all have much more control than we think we do. But what I love about Andrea – she isn’t just talking the talk, she has absolutely walked the walk and still is. But like she says, Next Chapters are a bit like taking steps in high heels, you may only be able to take tiny ones at a time, but as long as you keep going, you’ll get there in the end.

To find out more about Andrea and her brilliant work you can find her at: https://andreamclean.com/

And just in case you'd forgotten (how very dare you) you can find me and my books at elliebarkerwrites.com

We will be back with Series 10 in the Autumn until then Happy Next Chapters lovely people and thank you for listening x

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Most of you will know Andrea as one of our favourite presenters on Daytime Television for more than 2 decades. She brightened our mornings on GMTV as the lovely weather girl and then she was Loose Women’s longest serving host for 13 years. She’s also been on so many other shows like Dancing on Ice and Celebrity SAS Who Dares Wins. Plus, she’s interviewed some of the biggest names in showbusiness: Oprah, Drew Barrymore, Beyonce and Michael Bublé to name just a few.

But what you might not know is how Andrea came to be in these jobs and what life was really like behind the scenes. From her days of training as a journalist to being a household name - Andrea has shown determination, bravery, and resilience throughout it all

In 2020 Andrea decided to leave her enormous job in television for her own Next Chapter. She wanted to concentrate on what she loves doing: helping people - and especially women - to think differently about
themselves and the challenges life throws at them.

She’s now a life coach and her website This Girl is On Fire is helping women all over the world. She’s written 4 books and is a multiple Sunday Times bestselling author.

It’s very easy if you think of Andrea on our televisions, looking amazing, glamorous and confident next to all those big stars – to think she never suffers from the same insecurities, anxieties or worries as we do.

But this just isn’t true.  In this interview Andrea is candid, funny and honest. She spoke in such detail about all her Next Chapters we decided for the first time this should be a two-part interview, the next one will be next week. I’ve wanted to have her on the podcast for so long and she was everything a Next Chapter guest should be and more.

You can learn more about Andrea and her brilliant work
at  https://andreamclean.com/

And just in case you’ve forgotten you can find me and my
books at elliebarkerwrites.com

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The wonderful Suzi Grant has made it her mission to encourage as many women as possible to feel good no matter what our age. The ‘nutritionist with a passion for fashion’ began her career as a journalist. She was a roving reporter on Capital Radio, she worked on TV AM, she was one of the faces of Meridian plus she reported for Radio 4. But when her mum died suddenly at 62 from a heart attack, it made Suzi rethink everything. She put the 'work hard, play hard' days of journalism behind her and became a nutritionist. She helped people and has written 3 books.

Then in 2014, encouraged by her godchildren she started a
blog. She wanted to share everything she loved from nutrition, fashion and style and travel and lifestyle for the Over50s. She had no idea how much this would take off. She now has 110k followers, her work has been featured in the New York Times and she’s a model travelling all over the world spreading her mission that older women can and do have fun.

You can find Suzi and her wonderful work here:  https://www.alternativeageing.net/

And just in case you’ve forgotten (how very dare you?) you
can find me and my books at elliebarkerwrites.com

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Nearly ten years ago colleagues Lizzie Penny and Alex Hirst
had a conversation in the pub which would change their lives forever. Alex was
suffering from burnout and Lizzie knew the way they were working had to change.
But they didn’t just want to change the way they worked - they wanted to help
as many people as possible do the same.

They had no idea then this conversation would lead them to
create Hoxby – a multi-million pound social enterprise which has helped
thousands of people around the world do work they love within hours that suit
them.

They’ve worked with big companies like Unilever and Amazon
and Forbes magazine has described them as ‘creating the freelance revolution.’

They’ve written a book – a Sunday times bestseller called
“Workstyle” encouraging everyone to look at the way they work and it’s filled
with some powerful research which is hard for any of us to ignore.

Lizzie and Alex are open and honest about the way their work
has affected them and Lizzie had no idea this way of working would be
life-saving for her when she was diagnosed with cancer years later.

If you think working in a job you love in a way that suits
you will never be possible to you – Lizzie and Alex are encouraging you to
think again. They are a kind and generous with their advice and they want to do
all they can to help you think again.

You can find out all about Lizzie and Alex at Hoxby.com

And the link to their Workstyle Revolution Sunday Times
bestseller is here : https://www.workstylerevolution.com/

And just in case you were wondering or had forgotten (how
very dare you) you can find me at elliebarkerwrites.com

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Susan Lewis has written - wait for it – 50 books. Not only
that, but 50 bestselling books which have been sold all around the world. But
Susan’s own story is worthy of its own novel.

I’ll let Susan tell you, but it involves getting expelled
from boarding school, a disastrous affair with one of the FBIs most wanted and
a near-miss with George Clooney’s pot-bellied pig.

Susan also tells us about finding love at 50, becoming a
step-mum and what it’s really like to live in the French Riviera and Hollywood.
We also talk about how life changed forever for Susan when she was just 9 years
old.

Susan shows how Next Chapters can bring you just where you
need to be. This conversation has love, laughs, heart-break and glamour.  Susan is open, honest, funny and kind - it’s
no wonder her books are enjoyed by so many.

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