The Next Reel Film Podcast

“All these years, you just looked right through me.”

It was after learning to box that Karyn Kusama became interested in making a film set in the world of boxing, specifically focused on a woman learning to box. After writing the script, she found it very difficult to finance. People said it wouldn’t work unless she changed the Latina protagonist to a white woman. They said having a female protagonist was “unbelievable” and “unappealing.” Even after her producers finally found the financing, the financier pulled out days before production was supposed to start. It was only with the last-minute financial support from one of her producers – Maggie Renzi, along with her partner John Sayles – that she was able to get her film made. And we’re glad she did, because it’s a great film and introduced the world to Michelle Rodriguez. Join us – Pete Wright and Andy Nelson – as we continue our Sports series with Kusama’s 2000 film Girlfight.

Here’s what we take on in our conversation about Girlfight.

Clearly, this film is a showcase for Michelle Rodriguez as Diana, our protagonist. We get a sense of her screen presence and her intensity. How much did this film end up defining the trajectory of her career? Is she ever offered parts in romantic comedies or does she purposefully steer toward the action films she’s generally making? Either way, we have a great time with her here and love watching her in whatever she chooses to make.

One of the challenges we have with the film is the balance between Diana and her boxing with her relationship with Adrian. Is it the script that leaves us struggling? The performances from beginning actors? Or the structure and how interconnected Diana’s love story becomes with her boxing journey? It works for us, but not as well as we perhaps want it to.

Regardless, we love the cast. Jaime Tirell, Douglas Santiago, Paul Calderón, Ray Santiago – they all deliver. Jaime’s Hector, however, is one of our favorites. What a great character.

Kusama shows great technique right out of the gate. The introduction to Diana in the school hallway. The intense looks Diana gives right into the lens, breaking the fourth wall. The boxing POVs with the white flashes. Kusama’s not afraid to put strong touches on her film and they all work to its benefit. How has her career progressed after this? And what do we think of her upcoming foray into the TV series remake of Cronenberg’s Dead Ringers? Either way, she’s a fascinating director and worth tracking.

This film is hard to come by these days as it’s currently not streaming. You can rent a physical copy from Scarecrow video, however, through their rent-by-mail program. Check them out – the link’s in the show notes below.

It’s worth tracking this film down and watching it. It certainly would be a film worth a streaming or physical release as more people should check it out. We have a great time talking about it so check it out then tune in. The Next Reel – when the movie ends, our conversation begins!

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“What I always admired was the fight in you.”

Gina Prince-Bythewood looked at her first film as a When Harry Met Sally... type of story that followed a pair of young people – Monica and Quincy – as they both worked on furthering their basketball careers. The film was supported by The Sundance Institute and Spike Lee came on as an executive producer to help get it made. We’re glad everything came together for this film because it’s wonderful. Join us – Pete Wright and Andy Nelson – as we kick off a new series about Sports with Prince-Bythewood’s 2000 film Love & Basketball.

It’s easy to fall for Love & Basketball.

Prince-Bythewood followed through on her When Harry Met Sally... story perfectly. We meet Monica and Quincy as new neighbors and instantly fall for them as friends. The fact that they develop a romantic relationship over time works, but only because we buy that friendship so strongly. Small details, like him sneaking over to sleep on her floor to get away from his fighting parents, highlight so perfectly moments that Prince-Bythewood captures to help us buy into this.

It helps that she cast Sanaa Lathan and Omar Epps, two incredibly beautiful and charismatic actors, to play the parts as well. They play the roles well, both as basketball players and as friends who become romantically involved. They’re perfect.

Of course the rest of the cast works just as well – Alfre Woodard, Harry Lennix, Dennis Haysbert, and Debbi Morgan play the parents and they all bring something to the table. The child versions of our leads are great. And the basketball is all great.

It’s a film that deals with the challenges of relationships when success changes hands from one to the other. It looks at the way women and men are treated in sports differently. There’s the theme of infidelity and how it’s used in relationships and destroys them. And there are powerful elements looking at parents and their children and how they relate.

It’s a strong way to kick off this series. We have a great time talking about it so check it out then tune in. The Next Reel – when the movie ends, our conversation begins!

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“I’m a golden starfish!”

Olivia Wilde has long been working as an actress before stepping her foot into directing. She made a few short films and music videos, then locked her sights on the Blacklist script Booksmart by Emily Halpern & Sarah Haskins. She had screenwriter Katie Silberman rework the script (that Susanna Fogel had already changed ) into something that painted the vision she was looking for, and off she went. The film, while not a runaway success that it should’ve been, still did well for itself and set Wilde up as a new director with a strong voice. Join us – Pete Wright and Andy Nelson – as we conclude our Coming of Age Debuts series with Wilde’s 2019 film Booksmart.

We’re big fans of Booksmart.

While we graduated from high school a few years (read decades) before this film takes place, it’s impossible not to notice all the same personalities and groups. What makes these characters stand out so well? And how much do we identify with our two protagonists Molly and Amy (played brilliantly by Beanie Feldstein and Kaitlyn Dever)?

The adults are interesting characters in the film, but what does it say that the one with the most time spent is Miss Fine? It’s fitting, considering her scenes together with our protags. And what do we learn about the complexities of people in general as we spend time with Jared, Annabelle, and Gigi?

The film stands as vibrant and alive. Wilde smartly uses slow motion in a few spots. How do those moments stand out and why those spots?

All in all, this may be the highlight of an absolutely brilliant series. We love it and hope you do too. Check it out then tune in! The Next Reel – when the movie ends, our conversation begins!

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“I think this makes me officially an adult. Right?”

Marielle Heller’s sister had gifted her the diaristic graphic novel “The Diary of a Teenage Girl: An Account in Words and Pictures” by Phoebe Gloeckner, and Heller instantly connected with it. She adapted it into a play and then, with Gloeckner’s blessing and film rights, into a script. With the help of The Sundance Institute, Heller built the cast and team of creatives that would help her bring her vision to life. Join us – Pete Wright and Andy Nelson – as we continue our Coming of Age Debuts series with Heller’s 2015 film The Diary of a Teenage Girl.

Does watching The Diary of a Teenage Girl feel like we’re reading a diary?

It’s funny how the diary in the film is an audio one, recorded by Minnie, our protagonist and titular teenage girl. Is it weird that she’s an artist always using her hands but recording an audio diary? A bit. That being said, it’s not a gripe of ours at all, just something we noticed.

We really connected with this story of Minnie coming into her own sexuality and figuring out what that means, even if it’s not always in the best ways. Still, what Heller and Gloeckner give us (along with the stellar lead performance by Bel Powley) is a complicated character taking her own complicated path to figuring herself out, at the end of which we’ve seen true growth.

It helps that Alexander Skarsgård plays opposite her, even if it is a bit... shall we say awkward?... that they connect given that he plays her mom’s boyfriend and definitely someone who consciously makes the choice to sleep with a minor.

But that allows for a conversation about finding your own sexuality, and how complicated that window of time is when you have your own sexual awakening, which almost always is before the official age of the adult label of 18. And certainly Minnie isn’t shying away from sleeping with boys her own age either.

We also love Kristen Wiig, Christopher Meloni, and the rest of the cast. The look captured by cinematographer Brandon Trost, production designer Jonah Markowitz, and costume designer Carmen Grande (not to mention hair and makeup) bring this world to life.

It’s a fantastic film, albeit a challenging one, but one worth watching and discussing. Check it out then tune in. The Next Reel – when the movie ends, our conversation begins!

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“Hit me! I’m serious, I can’t feel anything. Hit me!”

Catherine Hardwicke had worked as a production designer for nearly two decades, crafting the look for such diverse films as I’m Gonna Git You Sucka, Tombstone, Tank Girl, and Three Kings, before shifting her focus to directing. It’s not often the path people take, but clearly Hardwicke knew what she wanted and came at it with a unique story she co-wrote with Nikki Reed – her ‘surrogate daughter’ as she describes her – about life as young teenage girls. The film Thirteen immediately caught attention because of how hard-hitting it was with depiction of thirteen-year-olds engaging in sexual behavior, doing drugs, and self harm through cutting. It also drew notice for how raw and realistic it was, and that intensity helped put Hardwicke on the map. Join us – Pete Wright and Andy Nelson – as we continue our Coming of Age Debuts series with Hardwicke’s 2003 film Thirteen.

Thirteen is a tough watch... but a good one.

As fathers of daughters, this film pushes many of our buttons and makes us generally uncomfortable from start to finish. That being said, we can recognize the power in the dark places Hardwicke takes her characters. And she takes them to dark places.

Evan Rachel Wood and Nikki Reed shine as the two teens. Wood plays the teen eager to gain popularity only to fall in with the wrong person who introduces her to life on the edge. Reed – who co-wrote the script with Hardwicke when she was only 13 years old! – carries the challenge of being the draw for Wood’s character but also the manipulation, lies, and life struggling in a broken home. The two teenagers excel in their roles.

Holly Hunter plays Wood’s mother and depicts the desire for friendship with the challenges of parenting to a tee. She rightly deserved her Oscar nomination and in our eyes, likely should have won.

What did we think of the dad though? We have a bit of an argument about how the script portrays him and if it’s realistic or not.

With unique camerawork, editing techniques, coloring, and more, Hardwicke more than shows herself capable to handle this story. It’s a tough film but powerful and worth watching. We have a fantastic conversation about it so check it out then tune in. The Next Reel – when the movie ends, our conversation begins!

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