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“This doesn’t just happen. This guy — this doesn’t happen. He doesn’t just come to a meeting and say ‘bugs.’”

The script came easily to Gary Ross & Anne Spielberg, but finding the right team and cast to make Big still took some time. By the time the film released in theatres, it was the fourth body-switching comedy to come out in a few years, even though it had been the first to be greenlit. But the script was smart and didn’t truck in dumb jokes, the casting was impeccable, and Penny Marshall found a way to navigate the fantasy and romantic nature of the film, and because of all these things, this film is the body-switching comedy from the late 80s that people still talk about. Join us – Pete Wright and Andy Nelson – as we continue our John Heard series with Marshall’s 1988 film Big.

We’re big on Big

It’s hard to argue that Tom Hanks’ career moved to new level with his performance in this film. He’s perfect in this film, playing brilliantly a 13-year-old in a 30-year-old’s body. But a lot of the success comes from Penny Marshall’s comedy smarts when capturing this story by avoiding the easy jokes.

It doesn’t hurt that Hanks has Elizabeth Perkins, Robert Loggia, and the man bringing this series together –John Heard – to work with as they all carry their weight. It’s interesting, however, to read the names of the other actors’ names mentioned for the roles. Robert De Niro? Really?

And then there’s David Moscow as young Josh and Jared Rushton as Billy, the two kids in the film who create the core childlike center of the film and ground it in youth. It works.

We do talk about the troubling aspect of Susan sleeping with a 13-year-old kid – even if she didn’t know he was only 13. How does that hold up? And what was poor Mercedes Ruehl doing the whole time he was gone? There are definitely darker aspects to this film, but again, Marshall smartly focuses on the Josh’s story and makes it work.

It’s a wonderful film. We have a great time talking about it and are happy to enter it into our library of shows, so check it out then tune in. The Next Reel – when the movie ends, our conversation begins!

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“Why didn’t I meet you first?”

After working with John Heard on her 1977 film Between the Lines, writer/director Joan Micklin Silver knew that she wanted to cast him in her next feature Chilly Scenes of Winter. He plays a fairly complex, lovestruck character that dances right on the edge of being a bit too crazy, but he pulls it off with an authenticity that leaves you rooting for him, even when you’re shaking your head at some of his decisions. Join us – Pete Wright and Andy Nelson – as we continue our John Heard series with Micklin Silver’s 1979 film Chilly Scenes of Winter.

It may be called Chilly Scenes of Winter, but it’s full of genuine comic moments.

The studio heads didn’t get it at all, releasing the film initially as Head Over Heels with an artificially happy ending. No one wanted to see that and the film bombed. It took Micklin Silver three years to get the original version released, and it was a success.

Do we like the way the movie plays out in this version? Absolutely.

How does John Heard do as this crazy character who rides the line with stalking Laura, the woman he falls in love with? What does the movie say about relationships, particularly when one side is more in love than the other side?

How about the idea of being the ‘other’ in a relationship?

Talk about the cast – aside from Heard, who is perfect in his role, we have Mary Beth Hurt as Laura, Peter Riegert, Gloria Grahame, Kenneth McMillan, Nora Heflin, and more. It’s a delightful cast and they’re all bringing their A-games here.

It’s a challenging but fascinating movie about relationships and finding yourself. We have a great time talking about it so check it out then tune in! The Next Reel – when the movie ends, our conversation begins!

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“We are still about telling the truth. We are still about something big here, and not many people can say that, man.”

After her success with Hester Street, it seemed fitting that director Joan Micklin Silver would make an ensemble film about a group of journalists at an alternative paper. She’d worked at The Village Voice, so clearly knew that world. Her writers did as well. Join us – Pete Wright and Andy Nelson – as we wrap up our ‘Journalist’ series and kick off our ‘John Heard’ series with Micklin Silver’s 1977 film Between the Lines.

There’s a lot going on between the lines in Between the Lines.

One of the things we love so much about the film is the ensemble nature of the story. While we feel John Heard’s character Harry is the protagonist, we’re following half a dozen people fairly closely with another half dozen prominent supporting players. While it’s not Altman, there’s a definite feel here that Micklin Silver is opening up a portal to this world and we’re here experiencing it with her.

But it is John Heard’s story. He was here with the start of the paper and we follow the story through his inevitable departure after the paper’s essentially eaten up by a corporation coming in and taking over all the ‘little guys.’ That being said, how fair is it to call him the protagonist? Couldn’t more than one be the protagonist?

Micklin Silver does a wonderful job of weaving us through the lives of these people, both within the world of the paper and without. We see romances form and fall apart. We see raises get denied. We see dancing. We see interviews. It’s a painting of this world, and we’re right here for it.

It’s a marvelous film and absolutely works for us. Definitely check it out then tune in. The Next Reel – when the movie ends, our conversation begins!

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“I thought you were snapping a few photographs, not reopening the whole case.”

We’re not sure how Kathryn Bigelow came to direct the adaptation of Anita Shreve’s book “The Weight of Water” for the big screen, but it feels a bit odd in her body of work. It’s arguably the least masculine film she’s made, and is a mystery told between two time periods, so it feels different for her. But what did we think of it? Join us – Pete Wright and Andy Nelson – as we continue our Journalists series with Bigelow’s 2002 film The Weight of Water.

Is there much weight to The Weight of Water?

This is a film we really struggle with. For a mystery film, it doesn’t leave much mystery. And the relationship angle feels sloppy. Why did Bigelow take on this project? Was the book any better? We didn’t connect with the two stories and their lack of actual connection. That being said, the actors largely work.

It’s just a shame they didn’t either focus on the story of the true murders on Smuttynose Island or the story in present day. Dancing between the two of them just doesn’t work.

Regardless, it’s another film checked off our Bigelow filmography, and we’re always happy to do that. So check out the movie if you can track it down and then tune in. The Next Reel – when the movie ends, our conversation begins!

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“Gentlemen, I give you the holy state of matrimony, modern style! Single lives, twin beds, and triple bromides in the morning!”

Dorothy Arzner is a filmmaker we want to look at more closely.

It’s surprising and a tad shameful to learn this late in the game about Dorothy Arzner. There had been other female filmmakers in the early days of the Hollywood system, but Arzner was largely the only woman regularly working as a director in the 30s and 40s. Her film Merrily We Go to Hell has some comedy in it but largely is a drama about a young couple who fall in love only to have their marriage affected by alcoholism and infidelity. But what’s so fascinating about it is that the woman sees what her husband’s up to and decides to do it too. It is a modern marriage, after all. Join us – Pete Wright and Andy Nelson – as we continue our Journalists series with Arzner’s 1932 film Merrily We Go to Hell.

For a series about journalists, journalism is barely recognized in this film.

Okay, so it’s not a perfect film for this series. But our protagonist, played by Frederic March, is a journalist so there’s at least some semblance of a loose connection. What he is is an incredible alcoholic, but Sylvia Sidney, the woman who falls for him, doesn’t see it that way. But do we buy their romance?

And what do we think of the modern marriage elements of the story? (It’s not so hard to believe, though, that she’d hook up with Cary Grant, great to see in an early role.)

What do we think of the title which gives it more of a comedic feel even though the film is much more of a drama?

How do the elements play in the pre-Code days?

And what stands out about Arzner’s direction?

It’s an entertaining and interesting film – but the story has some elements that don’t completely work for us. Regardless, it opened the door for us to Arzner and we definitely want to see more of her works. So check out the film then tune in. The Next Reel – when the movie ends, our conversation begins!

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