Welcome to The Nonlinear Library, where we use Text-to-Speech software to convert the best writing from the Rationalist and EA communities into audio. This is: Petrov Day Retrospective, 2023 (re: the most important virtue of Petrov Day & unilaterally promoting it), published by Ruby on September 28, 2023 on LessWrong.
When Stanislav Petrov's missile alert system pinged, the world was not watching. Russia was not watching. Perhaps a number of superiors in the military were staying in the loop about Stanislav's outpost, waiting for updates. It wasn't theatre.
In contrast, LessWrong's historical Petrov Day celebrations have been pretty flashy affairs. Great big red buttons, intimidating countdown timers, and all that. That's probably not what the next "don't destroy the world" moment will look like.
It's also the case that some of the biggest moral dilemmas don't come clearly labeled as such, and don't have the options clearly marked as "cooperate" or "defect". (I think in Petrov's case, it was clear it was a big decision. Unclear to me how it easy it was for him to make and why.)
Matching the spirit of the above, this year's LessWrong commemoration was a little more one-on-one. It started with a poll. In previous year's, the LessWrong team has unilaterally decided the meaning of Petrov Day, often to objection. So why not get a sense of what people actually think matters most?
We sent the following private message to anyone who'd been active on LessWrong in the previous 24 hours:
252 people responded to the survey at the time I started work on this post, and the results are pretty clear:
The Most Important Value of Petrov Day
Note: We did not actually spend much time thinking about the options in this poll, their framing, etc. Like under 10 minutes. Feel free to discuss in the comments.
VirtueNumPercentAvoiding actions that noticeably increase the chance that civilization is destroyed14457%Accurately reporting your epistemic state2711%Quickly orienting to novel situations2510%Resisting social pressure5622%Total252100%
Results are not significantly different for users with 1000+ karma:
VirtueNumPercentAvoiding actions that noticeably increase the chance that civilization is destroyed3549%Accurately reporting your epistemic state811%Quickly orienting to novel situations811%Resisting social pressure5628%Total107100%
Unilaterally pushing your own values over the collective?
I don't know whether what really was going on was genuinely idealistic as opposed to symmetrical fighting over resources, but a lot of the USRussia conflict seemed to be about values and beliefs about what was right. Capitalism, communism, etc.
This raises some good questions. What are the legitimate ways to promote your own values over other people? This is where the follow-up poll question took us.
Users were divided on the most important virtue (we don't know their opinions on the other virtues listed re Petrov Day), but it seemed reasonable that next year we'd go with the majority (or at least plurality) as a focus.
However, part of the Petrov Day experience (imo) is individuals being options to unilaterally change how things go for everyone else. Such an option we did kindly provide.
After some discussion, the LessWrong team has decided to make the focus of next year's Petrov Day be the virtue that is selected as most important by the most people...If you click the below link and are the first to do so of any minority group, we will make your selected virtue be the focus of next year's commemoration [instead].
The plain value choice, according me, is faced with a values difference (or belief difference?) to go along with the majority, or to decide that unilaterally you'll take the opportunity to promote what you think is correct.
I find myself thinking about Three Worlds Collide scenarios where you come across others with different values, and possibly there are power differentials. What do you do confronted by baby eaters people who prioritize communicati...