Mark Geyer and the Australian's Andrew Webster join James Willis to debate whether the Panthers dynasty is really coming to and end, given Liam Martin's decision to test the open market and with a host of big name players coming off contract. Also, a Perth Bears insider said they don't need a marquee player, as Mal Meninga is their marquee signing. Really?! Plus, the end of Latrell Mitchell's media silence, Josh Schuster on the comeback trail and tensions at the Bulldogs.

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