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Gifted students are in every orchestra room, whether or not they've been identified. In Episode 168, Dr. Charles Laux talks with Kimberly Shimpo, Head Director of Orchestras at North Mesquite High School in Texas, about teaching them well.
Kimberly is in her 26th year of teaching and has earned a gifted endorsement. She shares how she handles perfectionism and fear of failure, keeps gifted students engaged without lowering standards, and uses student choice, hints, and even tiny resin ducks to motivate her students. We also talk about the pressure gifted kids face, from first-generation college expectations to AP stacking, and why gifted training can make you a better teacher of every student in the room.
If you've ever had a student who seemed bored, restless, or afraid to make a mistake, this conversation is for you.
About our guest: Kimberly Shimpo has taught for more than 25 years in public, private, early childhood, and university settings. Her North Mesquite Orchestras consistently earn Superior ratings at UIL events. She was a 2017 quarterfinalist for the Recording Academy and GRAMMY Foundation Music Educator Award and sponsors her school's chapter of Texas Future Music Educators.
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Scott Laird on Life After 40 Years in the Classroom, Rehearsal Trust, and Finding Your Sphere of Influence | Orchestra Teacher Podcast #167
Scott Laird returns to The Orchestra Teacher Podcast to talk about his next chapter. After 40 years in public music education, Scott retired on July 1 from the North Carolina School of Science and Mathematics. He doesn't call it retirement. He calls it a new job as an independent contractor, with plenty of secrets to share.
In this episode, Scott and Dr. Charles Laux discuss:* How Scott planned his transition with a thought partner from his alumni network, a consultant (Christian Howes), and a men's group at his church* Dividing his time between performing, conducting and working with students, and teacher education* Rehearsal principles: functional musicianship, and building a loop of trust, friendship, and love with students* Scott's ensemble tuning procedure, including eye contact, listening to the A for at least five seconds, tuning open fifths, isolating the C and E, and treating tuning as a series of binary decisions* New presentations on systems thinking, computational thinking and STEM advocacy, repertoire selection, and writing recommendation letters for arts students* Why Scott builds sessions around what teachers ask for rather than what he wants to give them* Facing imposter syndrome after 200+ conference presentations* Advice for teachers who are struggling: you are having an impact, and your sphere of influence doesn't have to look like anyone else's
Scott is a violinist, conductor, and string educator from Durham, NC. He was Fine Arts Chair and Instructor of Music at NCSSM, and earlier directed orchestras at Eleanor Roosevelt High School (Greenbelt, MD) and in the Palmyra, PA School District. He is a frequent honor orchestra conductor and conference presenter, performs on acoustic and electric violin, and writes the blog "Thoughts of a String Educator." He is a sponsored artist and educational specialist for D'Addario Orchestral, CodaBow International, and NS Design Electric Violins.
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166. Desiree Overree: Learning, Earning, Returning
After 31 years as an orchestra director, Desiree Overree retired in June and quickly found a new path. She founded Green Baton LLC, a professional development and mentorship company for music educators.
Desiree joins us to talk about her 21 years at Seven Lakes High School in Katy, Texas, where she grew the orchestra program to more than 280 students in seven ensembles. She explains how strong feeder programs and weekly visits to junior high campuses built the foundation, and why she left her ego at the door when helping other directors.
We also discuss advocating for help when your program grows past what one person can handle, keeping high standards for every ensemble at every level, and why she considers bowings "life" for tone production. Desiree shares how the Mu Omicron mentoring committee is supporting new and newly assigned string teachers, and what she's building at Green Baton, including interactive professional development that people actually want to attend.
About our guest: Desiree Overree is an adjudicator, presenter, clinician, conductor, and educational consultant. Her Seven Lakes ensembles earned multiple TMEA Honor Orchestra titles, Mark of Excellence national honors, and five American Prize wins. She is Vice-President of Mu Omicron and an Educational Consultant for Music for All.
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Marcia Neel: Be a Killer Music Educator
Marcia Neel hired our host for his first teaching job 31 years ago, and she's still mentoring music teachers today. In this episode, she shares the story behind their meeting at a 1996 conference in Kansas City and the career that followed.
Marcia spent 37 years in music education, including 14 years as Coordinator of Secondary Fine Arts for the Clark County School District, the fifth largest in the country. She talks about teaching choir while her students sang backup for Las Vegas headliners, how the district's mariachi program grew from about 250 students to more than 8,000, and why she made it her mission to clear obstacles out of teachers' way.
You'll also hear her practical advice on:
About our guest: Marcia Neel is president of Music Education Consultants, Inc., Senior Director of Education for Yamaha Corporation of America, and Education Advisor to the Music Achievement Council. She is a past Disney Performing Arts Teacher of the Year.
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Put Your Own Oxygen Mask On First: Health & Wellness for Orchestra Directors with Ann Smith | The Orchestra Teacher Podcast #164
After 32 years of teaching orchestra in Texas, Ann Smith retired and immediately signed up for a doctorate in chiropractic. Her goal is to help musicians and orchestra directors stay healthy and well.
In this episode, Ann shares the health and wellness practices that changed her life and the classroom strategies that built thriving orchestra programs at Fort Worth ISD, Arlington ISD, Flower Mound High School, and Plano East Senior High School.
In this episode:
About Ann Smith:
Ann G. Smith began violin at age twelve in Troy, Ohio, and earned her BME from Wright State University in 1994. Her career took her through Fort Worth ISD, Martin High School (Arlington ISD), Flower Mound High School, and Plano East Senior High School. Her ensembles earned consistent UIL Sweepstakes ratings and performed at the Midwest Clinic in Chicago. She holds a Master of Music Education and a Performance Certificate in Conducting from UT Arlington. She is an active clinician and guest conductor and served as TMEA Orchestra Division Vice-President from 2021 to 2023.
If this episode helped you, please like, subscribe, and share it with an orchestra director who needs to hear it.
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There Are No Gates: A Conversation with Rachel Jayson
What if we stopped asking students to fit into the systems we've inherited—and started designing our ensembles around the students in front of us?
In Episode 163 of The Orchestra Teacher Podcast, Dr. Charles Laux talks with Mx. Rachel Jayson, a GRAMMY-nominated music educator, violist, conductor, and artist whose work at Lexington High School in Massachusetts challenges many traditional assumptions about orchestra education.
Rachel shares the story of their 18-year journey in Lexington, the influence of their mentor Janet Haas, and the process of developing an ensemble identity rooted in creativity, access, collaboration, and community.
The conversation explores Rachel's innovative approach to seating and assessment, including chamber-style auditions designed to reveal communication, balance, musicality, and ensemble awareness rather than simply measuring technical facility.
They also discuss rotating students through different seats, peer mentorship, student leadership, placing the bass in the center of the ensemble, and creating a culture where students understand that the orchestra belongs to all of them.
A major theme of the conversation is Rachel's commitment to new and diverse repertoire. Rather than simply searching for existing music that fits their vision, Rachel commissions composers—including artists from rock, Balkan, bluegrass, jazz, and other musical worlds—to create new works for their students.
The students aren't simply performers in this process. They become collaborators.
Rachel also shares the remarkable journey of Kendrick, a commissioned work that eventually traveled from Lexington High School to Lincoln Center, the recording studio, social media audiences around the world, and ultimately the Brandenburg Symphony Orchestra in Germany.
The conversation also explores Rachel's philosophy that students don't need permission, a degree, or a particular credential to become artists.
They can simply make something.
Whether it's composing a piece, creating visual art in response to music, making connections to literature, or discovering a personal relationship with a work written hundreds of years ago, Rachel encourages students to recognize that art is multidimensional—and that they have a place within it.
This is a conversation about rethinking orchestra education, creating access, building community, developing student agency, and giving young musicians the opportunity to see themselves as artists.
The art is bigger than the classroom.
And the music is happening everywhere.
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What makes a great teacher truly memorable? What makes students want to stay in our programs? And how can music educators continue to lead, inspire, and make a difference—even when the day-to-day challenges of teaching become overwhelming?
In Episode 162 of The Orchestra Teacher Podcast, Dr. Charles Laux sits down with legendary music educator, author, speaker, and mentor Tim Lautzenheiser for a wide-ranging and deeply inspiring conversation about teaching, leadership, motivation, persistence, and the extraordinary influence music teachers have on young people.
Tim shares stories from his career as a band director at Northern Michigan University, the University of Missouri, and New Mexico State University, as well as his transition into educational leadership and his work with Attitude Concepts for Today and Conn-Selmer.
The conversation goes far beyond Tim's career. Charles and Tim explore what really makes students want to be part of a music program—and Tim offers a powerful reminder that recruiting and retention often come down to something much more fundamental than the music itself:
How do we make students feel?
They discuss:
🎵 The importance of the teacher as a leader and role model
🎵 Why relationships are at the heart of recruitment and retention
🎵 “The messenger is louder than the message”
🎵 The power of storytelling and authentic communication
🎵 Why music teachers have to continually advocate for their programs
🎵 Helping students discover the lifelong power of music
🎵 The role of mentors and the teachers who change our lives
🎵 Persistence, motivation, and overcoming teacher burnout
🎵 Why motivation often comes after action—not before it
🎵 The importance of continuing to learn and grow as a teacher
🎵 Developing meaningful student leadership through responsibility
🎵 Why giving students a title isn't enough—you have to give them the tools to lead
🎵 The unexpected opportunities that come from relationships and simply saying “thank you”
🎵 The long-term impact music educators can have on students' lives
Tim also shares his philosophy of student leadership, including the importance of giving students responsibilities where they can actually succeed and then continually mentoring them throughout the year.
Perhaps most importantly, Tim offers a message that every music educator needs to hear: step back from the daily minutiae and recognize the difference you are making.
Music teachers don't simply teach notes, rhythms, technique, or repertoire. We help young people become better people.
As Tim says, there is no downside to what we do—only upside.
Whether you're a veteran teacher, a beginning educator, a conductor, a program director, or simply someone who believes in the power of music education, this conversation is packed with ideas, stories, and reminders worth revisiting.
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🎻 Episode 161 — From Zero to Orchestra: Building a Program That Lasts with Rachel Peña
What does it take to build an orchestra program from absolutely nothing?
Rachel M. Peña Cardona knows.
A violinist, conductor, educator, and program builder originally from San Juan, Puerto Rico, Rachel has founded four student orchestras throughout her career. In 2021, she became the founding orchestra director at Bearden Middle School in Tennessee and began building a program from the ground up.
In this episode, Rachel shares the strategies, challenges, and relationships that helped transform that program into a thriving orchestra community—and how she has secured nearly $80,000 in grants and donations along the way.
We talk about grant writing, community partnerships, building an instrument inventory, recruiting and retaining students, working with administrators, collaborating with other music teachers, and making sure students have equal access to music during the school day.
Rachel also shares some of her favorite classroom strategies, including “Dark Mode,” Secret Quartet, the Sixth Grade Instrument Ceremony, multi-level orchestra experiences, and creative ways to help students learn how to recover when they get lost.
Most importantly, Rachel's story is about starting somewhere. You don't have to have everything figured out before you begin. Sometimes you simply have to see the need, tell your story, build relationships, and take the first step.
A great conversation for anyone starting an orchestra program—or anyone looking to grow the one they already have.
About Rachel Peña
Rachel M. Peña Cardona is a string educator, violinist, conductor, and program builder with 22 years of experience in education. Originally from San Juan, Puerto Rico, she has taught music, orchestra, violin, French, and Spanish in Puerto Rico and Tennessee.
She earned a bachelor's degree in Violin Performance from the Conservatory of Music of Puerto Rico and a master's degree in String Performance from the University of Tennessee. She has performed with ensembles including the Puerto Rico Philharmonic Orchestra and University of Tennessee Symphony Orchestra and has served as a concertmaster and soloist.
Rachel has founded four student orchestras throughout her career and currently serves as the founding orchestra director at Bearden Middle School in Tennessee.
Her greatest goal is to help students develop not only musical skills, but a lifelong love of music and the confidence to continue making music throughout their lives.
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Episode 160: Justin Brookins
From viola performance to high school orchestra—and from 3-D printed shoulder rests to advocating for the future of music programs—Justin Brookins has taken a fascinating path through music education.
In this episode, Dr. Charles Laux talks with Justin, Director of Orchestras and Guitar at Druid Hills High School in Atlanta, Georgia, about his journey from Georgia to Arizona and back again, his experiences as a professional performer, and the experiences that ultimately pulled him toward teaching.
Justin talks candidly about teaching in a Title I district, working with students across multiple age levels, learning to teach beginning band as a string player, and discovering the importance of community and support for new teachers.
The conversation also dives into one of Justin's passions: 3-D printing. After receiving an innovation grant, Justin began exploring how students could design and print their own musical instruments. That experience opened the door to practical classroom applications—including inexpensive shoulder rests, mutes, guitar picks, music stand accessories, replacement parts, and even 3-D printed instruments.
Justin and Charles also discuss the very real challenges of building and maintaining orchestra programs, including scheduling, recruiting, shrinking enrollment, advocacy, and finding ways to make sure administrators and families understand the value of what we do.
This is a conversation about innovation, resilience, community, advocacy, and finding creative ways to keep orchestra accessible to students.
Topics: music education • viola • teaching • professional performance • 3-D printing • classroom technology • recruiting • advocacy • program building • community • innovation
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Episode 159: Teaching Beyond the Notes: Creativity, Assessment & Musicality with Abby Alwin
How can we make assessment more meaningful, encourage students to take musical risks, and keep creativity at the center of our orchestra classrooms?
In this episode, Dr. Charles Laux talks with Abigail Alwin, Director of Orchestras at Clague Middle School in Ann Arbor, Michigan. A Michigan String Teacher of the Year and Yale Distinguished Music Educator, Abby has spent more than two decades teaching young musicians while continually exploring new ways to help students become independent, confident musicians.
Abby shares practical strategies for peer assessment, assessment literacy, efficient playing tests, classroom routines, practice expectations, and teaching technique without overwhelming students. She explains how isolating individual skills—rather than trying to assess everything at once—can make assessment more useful for both students and teachers.
The conversation takes a fascinating turn into Abby's life as a performing musician, including her work with Balkan music, the Bulgarian gadulka, improvisation, and her efforts to maintain a meaningful musical life outside of school.
Charles and Abby also explore improvisation and composition with middle school students, including creative projects inspired by The Lorax, and discuss how giving students opportunities to create can uncover musical strengths that traditional assessments may overlook.
It's a wide-ranging conversation about teaching, creativity, musicianship, professional growth, and the importance of continually putting ourselves in the position of being learners.
Topics: assessment • peer learning • classroom routines • practice • improvisation • composition • creativity • Balkan music • teacher musicianship • professional development • healthy risk-taking
bout Abigail Alwin
Abigail Alwin is a multi-faceted musician and educator who has taught in the Ann Arbor Public Schools for more than 20 years. She holds a bachelor's degree in cello performance and a master's degree in music education from the University of Michigan. Her orchestras at Clague Middle School have been selected three times to perform at the Michigan Music Conference, and her ensembles consistently earn Division I ratings at MSBOA Festival.
As a performer, Abby explores Western classical traditions, Balkan music, free improvisation, and the ways music expresses culture and connection. She regularly performs with the Balkan-inspired ensemble Ajde Aman.
She is deeply committed to providing all students with meaningful access to music education and has presented nationally on teacher wellness, string pedagogy, assessment, mentoring, composition, and other topics.
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