Join Kurt and guest Rob on the PackBreakers podcast for a discussion on high-end vapes, Rob's experience with diabetes, and the transition from smoking to vaping. Learn about nicotine's role in Rob's life and how legislation impacts consumers.

00:58 - Introduction to Rob 

02:45 - High-end Vapes 

04:14 - Vaping as a diabetic, misconceptions and personal experience 

06:04 - Your vape journey and reduction of nicotine concentration 

09:00 - The transition smoking to vaping 

10:20 - Nicotine and the role in Rob's life

12:15 - How legislation will affect you as a consumer 

15:12 - The importance of and reasoning behind Rob remaining independence and his role in VPASA 

16:14 - Rob's message to the government around vaping

Join Kurt as he chats with Fred Roeder (The Consumer Choice Center) and Michael Landl (The World Vapers Alliance) at the annual Vapecon Event.

In this episode, they discuss the international vaping landscape, highlighting the successes and challenges faced by different countries (05:45). They delve into the contrasting global perspectives on vaping and how they've shaped diverse policies worldwide (15:08). Additionally, Michael and Fred share their insights on South Africa's tobacco bill and why they're visiting the country (22:30). The episode concludes with a discussion of the consumer view on vaping and the surrounding legislation (32:26).

And much more throughout the episode!

The PackBreakers is a show dedicated to vaping, its people and its power to change lives, habits and markets. This show focuses on people’s stories about vaping and their involvement with tobacco harm reduction.