Illustrators Samya Arif and Sana Nasir come on TPE to discuss the world of design, illustration, art, Indus Valley School, Feminism, Social Media and AI.Sana Nasir is an international award winning Illustrator and a record label Art Director. Sana's work is rooted in illustration told through local folklore, mythology and fantasy that she uniquely incorporates into the field of music, event and festival design as well as activism. Amongst her recent achievements Sana created the visual identity for the global event series, Boiler Room for itʼs historic debut in Pakistan and was part of the team that received the coveted British Council New Perspectives Grant in 2022 for which she was invited to speak at the Victoria & Albert Museum in London. Nasirʼs talk ʻDesign in the Name of Loveʼ was debuted at the National Digital Design Conference (ND2C) in 2018 and her talk, ʻCulture Alt Deleteʼ was featured on Islamabadʼs first PechaKucha 20x20. Her work is inspired from folklore and mythology combined with technology and pop-culture and has been acclaimed and featured on platforms such as World Illustration Awards, Communication Arts Awards, Vice, Pen America, Oxford University Press, Border Movement and several local publications including Herald magazine.Sana currently lives and works between Karachi and Kathmandu as an illustrator and multi-disciplinary artist and as Art Director at an ethical record label that she and her partner co-run called Cape Monze Records.sananasir.coSamya Arif is a Pakistani visual artist, illustrator, and graphic designer whose work has been featured internationally. Her artistry is focused on female perspectives and observations of social and cultural paradigms, often exploring the themes of women and the spaces they inhabit.After earning her degree in Communication Design from the Indus Valley School of Art & Architecture, Samya has built a diverse portfolio that includes creating visuals for publications, editorials, book covers, and film posters. Additionally, she has been actively involved as an artist, designer, and DJ in Karachi's budding underground electronic and indie music scene.She has been featured in several prestigious publications such as The New York Times, BBC, Vice, CBC, The Fader, and Pitchfork. Samya has also collaborated on a variety of international projects, such as the Mumbai-based Taxi Fabric, for which her designs were featured in the music video of the British band Coldplay. Her client list includes Penguin Books, HarperCollins, Al Jazeera, the US Embassy in Nepal, British Council, NPR, and Google. Her illustrations were regularly published in Pakistan's renowned, now defunct Herald magazine.Samya's work has been exhibited in numerous countries, including Pakistan, India, UAE, England, US, Belgium, and Spain. She currently resides and works in Karachi, Pakistan and serves as a part-time professor at her alma mater.The Pakistan Experience is an independently produced podcast looking to tell stories about Pakistan through conversations. Please consider supporting us on Patreon:https://www.patreon.com/thepakistanexperienceChapters:0:00 Introduction2:00 Difference between Graphic Design and Illustration8:30 Indus Valley10:00 Choosing Design and Love for Music13:30 Is it innate or can you learn Art?16:00 Parents and living as Artists20:00 Herald27:30 Do you care about what people think?30:30 Paving the way and Woke Culture33:00 Being trolled online35:00 Saying something through Art40:00 Progress across Generations43:00 Feminism of our mothers48:00 Putting yourself in your Art51:30 Creative Process and Finding yourself55:00 Would you rather be in your 20s?57:00 Delusion is a super power1:02:00 The world of Social Media1:10:30 Watermelon symbol and the Power of an Image1:17:00 Local Context is very important1:25:00 Making your own art1:30:40 What is Pakistani culture and Getting inspired1:39:40 AI and Art1:58:40 Audience Questions