The Pandemonium Witches: Murders, Mystery, and Mayhem

In this episode, Cat, Rachel, and Em take a somber look at the life and crimes of John Arthur Getreu - a man who lived quietly in the shadows for decades while carrying the weight of horrific murders but not denying a single word.

From his early conviction overseas to the cold cases that haunted Stanford University for nearly half a century, we trace how advances in DNA finally brought the truth to light.

This is not a story of mystery or myth, but one of long-delayed justice for the women whose lives he stole.

Links We Used: John Arthur Getrue

• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Getreu

• https://abc7news.com/post/john-arthur-getreu-stanford-murders-serial-killer-dies-in-prison/13829406/
• https://www.pleasantonweekly.com/news/2023/10/01/serial-killer-john-getreu-dies-in-prison/pleads-guilty-1973-stanford-hills-murder-law-librarian

• https://www.paloaltoonline.com/news/2021/09/08/getreu-trial-brother-of-victim-testifies-alleged-serial-killer-murdered-his-sister-in-1963/
• https://www.smcgov.org/da/news/people-v-john-getreu
• https://abcnews.go.com/US/alleged-stanford-murders-serial-killer-convicted-1974-cold/story?id=80016906
• https://www.stanfordmurders.com/
• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzQNFzA01_0
• https://www.ktvu.com/news/convicted-bay-area-serial-killer-john-getreu-dies-in-prison
• https://whatliesbeyond.boards.net/thread/9782/update-stanford-murders-getreu-serial
• https://stanforddaily.com/2023/01/12/serial-killer-pleads-guilty-to-1973-murder-of-stanford-law-librarian/
• https://www.mv-voice.com/news/2023/01/10/serial-killer-john-getreu-pleads-guilty-to-1973-murder-of-leslie-perlov/
• https://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/pp3jib/san_mateo_county_jury_convict_john_getreu_of/
• https://www.reddit.com/r/GeneticGenealogyNews/comments/12somlx/genealogy_links_man_to_two_rapes_in_10_months_in/
• https://www.reddit.com/r/GeneticGenealogyNews/comments/pqhjsh/convicted_murderer_john_getreus_own_words_pointed/
• https://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/bpuy6q/police_think_theyve_solved_the_longcold_murder_of/
• https://www.newarkadvocate.com/picture-gallery/news/local/2019/07/01/john-getreu-cold-case-suspect/1596350001/
• https://abcnews.go.com/2020/video/convicted-killers-wife-stepdaughter-learning-arrested-murder-80045621
• https://www.smcsheriff.com/sites/default/files/articles/John%20Getreu%20Cold%20Case%20Homicide%20Conviction.pdf
• https://www.paloaltoonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/2019_06_21.paw_.section1.pdf

The Pandemonium team is back - and this time, Cat, Rachel, Meg, and Em are headed to 18th-century Russia, where the tea is hot, the winters are cold, and the noblewomen are absolutely monstrous.

Meet Darya Nikolayevna Saltykova, better known as The Blood Duchess: a wealthy widow who spent her free time brutally unaliving her serfs and complaining to God about her love life. Was she a sadistic serial unaliver hiding behind holy icons, or just the Russian aristocracy’s answer to “bad vibes only”?

The crew digs into the blood-soaked snow of history, decoding Darya’s divine excuses, wildly inefficient murder methods, and extremely unrelatable lifestyle.

Come for the history, stay for the petty vengeance, and the historical hauntings.

Links We Used: SaltyChika:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darya_Nikolayevna_Saltykova

https://podcasts.apple.com/np/podcast/darya-saltykova-serial-killer/id1468332063?i=1000539734502

https://www.reddit.com/r/PeriodDramas/comments/1gj3d93/the_bloody_duchess_a_historical_series_about/

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Darya_Nikolayevna_Saltykova_-_GRpergament.jpg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darya_Saltykovahttps://www.imdb.com/title/tt8916868/

https://russiapedia.rt.com/prominent-russians/history-and-mythology/darya-saltykova/

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/140829421/daria-nikolaevna-saltykova

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darya_Petrovna_Saltykova

https://vocal.media/criminal/darya-nikolayevna-saltykova-the-ruthless-noblewoman-s-reign-of-terror

https://dbpedia.org/page/Darya_Nikolayevna_Saltykova

https://www.ancient-origins.net/history-famous-people/darya-saltykova-0014028

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saltykov_family

https://bridgetomoscow.com/upcoming-group-tours/ghost-tour-of-moscow

https://www.hauntedhistories.co.uk/the-saltychikha

https://www.rbth.com/arts/travel/2013/11/25/haunted_and_supernatural_moscow_31117

https://www.truecrimetrine.com/episodes/episode-03-westley-allan-dodd-phc6r-hg33m-y89sh-mna42-c497z-3nz94-dkm4k-sm5ys-wxcdz-5xzsh-cehpf-75cnd-pxja4-l62da-n429d-7g8nk-drxsp-s8t2p-y6rxl-j9sps-nw23p-3nmeh-hyehm-tzgpc-bpx6n

https://www.tahirih.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/Child-Marriage-in-the-States-Two-Pager.pdf

In this twisted episode of Pandemonium Witches, Rachel and Cat dive headfirst into the unsettling story of Dana Sue Gray - a seemingly ordinary woman with a deadly obsession.

Behind her sun-soaked California smile hid a dark compulsion: murder fueled by greed, addiction, and the thrill of the kill.

Join the team as they unravel how this nurse-turned-serial-killer targeted the most vulnerable, feeding her shopping addiction with stolen credit cards and leaving a trail of horror in her wake.

Was it impulse, trauma, or pure evil? Buckle up - this one is as shocking as it is disturbing.

Links We Used - Dana Sue Grey:

• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dana_Sue_Gray
• https://murderpedia.org/female.G/g/gray-dana-sue.htm
• https://joniejohnston.medium.com/an-armchair-analysis-of-female-serial-killer-dana-sue-gray-1f7d7b642b7b
• https://www.crimelibrary.org/notorious_murders/women/dana_sue_gray/9.html
• https://www.crimelibrary.org/notorious_murders/women/dana_sue_gray/10.html
• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainoil
• https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/crime/dana-gray-women-prisoners-justice-b2573447.html
• https://sites.google.com/view/californiatruecrime/episodes-page/season-2/dana-sue-gray
• https://hellhorror.com/serial-killers/dana-sue-gray-serial-killer-123.html
• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaVk-T6IWV8
• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5eK0-Vzjz4
• https://tubitv.com/tv-shows/19676/s07-e01-blood-lust
• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnzfnzmTEms
• https://www.crimelibrary.org/notorious_murders/women/dana_sue_gray/2.html
• https://pluto.tv/us/on-demand/series/63c0a1e0501aab0013bd0a23/season/1/episode/63c0b6f18ffdc40013f29ebb
• https://www.imdb.com/title/tt35504686/

Cat and Rachel dive into one of the darkest corners of America's extremist underground - the violent, hate-fueled world of Chevie Kehoe and Daniel Lee.

Raised on white supremacist ideology and armed with a terrifying sense of purpose, their paths would lead to robbery, murder, and an alleged connection to the Oklahoma City bombing.

This episode unpacks their ties to the Aryan Nations, his twisted interpretation of polygamy and religion, and the horrific crimes committed in the name of his so-called revolution.

Strap in - this one’s a heavy descent into radicalization, family betrayal, and the monstrous power of belief gone wrong.

Links We Used - Chevie Kehoe & Daniel Lee Lewis:

• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevie_Kehoe
• https://www.splcenter.org/resources/reports/trail-death-follows-white-supremacist-gang-led-chevie-kehoe/
• https://www.atf.gov/our-history/historical-articles/kehoe-brothers
• https://www.nytimes.com/1999/12/12/us/how-an-honor-student-became-a-white-warrior.html
• https://www.oxygen.com/a-plan-to-kill/crime-news/chevie-kehoe-daniel-lee-murdered-mueller-family-for-guns
• https://caselaw.findlaw.com/court/us-8th-circuit/1342871.html
• https://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2020/jul/15/sentencing-baffles-lawyers-victims-kin/
• https://www.splcenter.org/resources/reports/kehoe-gang-timeline/
• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSSIzIvBhLw
• https://www.wnewsj.com/2022/02/21/brothers-troubles-americas-issues-didnt-begin-or-end-here/
• https://www.justice.gov/archive/usao/are/news/2008/August/Kehoe_opinion.pdf
• https://apnews.com/general-news-b1bc1dc9b483498f889735d1189851f3
• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Lewis_Lee
• https://www.oklahoman.com/story/news/1990/08/02/accident-at-party-suspected-in-slaying-of-city-man/62557183007/
• https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/76840757/joseph_john_wavra
• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQIBpPbGAAM

Welcome back Party Possums!

(We had to re-upload this video with LESS ECHO - because our sound boards are possessed, as we too are haunted houses!)

In this haunted episode, Cat and Rachel are hitting the road again, this time deep into the rugged heart of South Dakota.

From haunted hotels and crumbling ghost towns to the chilling legends of the Black Hills, the gang uncovers the stories that history tried to bury.

You'll hear about the restless spirits at the Hotel Alex Johnson, a penitentiary with a murderous past, and the unsettling tales from Fort Sisseton. Plus, a look into the twisted crimes that shook this quiet state, because even the wide-open plains can’t hide everything.

Buckle up. South Dakota is way spookier than you think.

Links We Used - South Dakota:

• https://www.hauntedrooms.com/south-dakota/haunted-places
• https://kids.nationalgeographic.com/geography/states/article/south-dakota
• https://www.travelsouthdakota.com/trip-ideas/haunted-indoors-eastern-south-dakota
• https://usghostadventures.com/uncategorized/the-most-haunted-places-in-deadwood/
• https://usghostadventures.com/haunted-stories/31-days-of-halloween/keystone-cemetery-mt-rushmores-haunted-burying-ground/
• https://gfp.sd.gov/pages/ghosts-fort-sisseton/
• https://www.alexjohnson.com/paranormal/
• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sitting_Bull
• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laura_Ingalls_Wilder
• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crazy_Horse
• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calamity_Jane
• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Brokaw
• https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0348914/
• https://www.historicbullock.com/historic-bullock-hotel-casino/
• https://cinematreasures.org/theaters/7438/photos/416045
• https://605magazine.com/2021/08/31/easton-castle/
• http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Sisseton
• https://fortwiki.com/Fort_Sisseton
• https://www.nps.gov/planyourvisit/passes.htm
• https://www.siouxlandmuseums.com/
• https://lostinsiouxland.wordpress.com/2024/03/05/revisiting-history-in-siouxland-pettigrew-home-and-museum-sioux-falls-sd/
• https://www.sdpb.org/arts-and-culture/2015-07-24/the-167th-birthday-for-senator-richard-f-pettigrew

We had to re-upload this video with LESS ECHO - because our sound boards are possessed, as we too are haunted houses!

This week, the gang unpacks the scandalous and sensational story of Winnie Ruth Judd, dubbed “The Trunk Murderess” by the press.

In 1931, two women were found dismembered and stuffed into steamer trunks, and Winnie was on the run. But was she a cold-blooded killer, or the perfect scapegoat in a case full of lies, jealousy, and possible cover-ups?

Rachel, Cat, and Em dive into the mystery, the media circus, and the mental health questions that still swirl around this case nearly a century later.

Old Hollywood vibes. True crime madness. A train ticket and a couple of trunks soaked in secrets. Let’s unfortunately dive into it.

Links We Used - Winne Judd:

• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winnie_Ruth_Judd
• https://azmemory.azlibrary.gov/nodes/view/303
• https://findingaids.lib.umich.edu/catalog/umich-wcl-M-2911.1jud
• https://www.azcentral.com/picture-gallery/news/local/phoenix/2024/11/25/phoenix-trunk-murderess-winnie-ruth-judd/74188821007/
• https://www.azcentral.com/story/entertainment/books/2024/10/13/winnie-ruth-judd-book-by-laurie-notaro/75399986007/
• https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/arts/ruthless-a-long-lost-confession-letter-may-finally-tell-the-real-story-of-winnie-ruth-judd-6657689
• https://www.amazon.com/Trunk-Murderess-Winnie-American-Revealed/dp/0671740075
• http://mail.murderpedia.org/female.J/j/judd-winnie-ruth.htm
• https://news.prairiepublic.org/show/dakota-datebook-archive/2022-04-25/winnie-ruth-judd
• https://azmemory.azlibrary.gov/nodes/view/303
• https://arizonahistoricalsociety.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/library_Judd-Winnie-Ruth.pdf
• https://www.crimelibrary.org/notorious_murders/women/judd/10.html
• https://www.jsonline.com/embed/video/27266013/
• https://www.instagram.com/reel/DLD3PCbSJST/
• https://www.thenewsguard.com/community/offbeat-oregon-oregonians-played-prominent-role-in-1930s-most-horrific-murder/article_b9009184-7d2a-11eb-a0d7-63595170049c.html
• https://digital.library.ucla.edu/catalog/ark:/21198/z1sz264q
• https://www.foundsf.org/Melvin_Belli,_King_of_Torts

In this harrowing episode, the gang dives deep into one of the most disturbing cases of maternal abuse and manipulation in American history. Teresa Knorr wasn't just a controlling mother - she was a killer, using her children as pawns in a twisted, terrifying game of paranoia, torture, and murder.

Rachel, Cat, and Em peel back the layers of a case so gruesome it sounds like fiction, yet every word is true. From shocking medical neglect to brutal acts carried out by her own hand, Teresa’s story is one of horror that spanned years before the truth finally came out.

Buckle up, this one’s not for the faint of heart.

Links We Used - Teresa Knorr:

• https://abcnews.go.com/US/hammerhead-shark-falls-sky-disc-golf-south-carolina/story?id=122773035
• https://www.shbb.org/
• https://unidentified-awareness.fandom.com/wiki/Sheila_Sanders?file=Sanders_scene.jpeg
• https://unidentified-awareness.fandom.com/wiki/Suesan_Knorr
• https://truecrimecasehistories.com/worlds-worst-mom-theresa-knorr/
• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theresa_Knorr
• https://murderpedia.org/female.K/k/knorr-theresa.htm
• https://unidentified-awareness.fandom.com/wiki/Suesan_Knorr
• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDmEEfU7Obo&pp=ygUTI2RzY2VycnJvcm9uZ3N0c2l0ZQ%3D%3D 

THE GANG'S ALL HERE – ON VIDEO FOR THE FIRST TIME!

(We had to re-upload this video with LESS ECHO - because our sound boards are possessed, as we too are haunted houses!)

Cat, Rachel, Em, and Meg are traveling the U.S. once again, and where are we going on this stop? Tennessee, of course! Where the ghosts are plenty and the killers are homegrown.

From haunted battlefields and eerie mansions to the twisted crimes of serial killers like Paul Dennis Reid and Thomas Huskey, this episode dives headfirst into the spooky and sinister heart of the Volunteer State.

Buckle up, because Tennessee isn't just known for music and mountains… it’s hiding some dark secrets in those hollers.

Links We Used - Tennessee:

• https://www.britannica.com/place/Tennessee%20
• https://www.tn.gov/%20
• https://www.tnvacation.com/%20
• https://tnmuseum.org/%20
• https://kids.nationalgeographic.com/geography/states/article/tennessee%20
• https://tnecd.com/news/7-scariest-places-in-tennessee/%20
• https://www.bellwitchcave.com/%20
• https://www.yourghoststories.com/real-ghost-story.php?story=27035&utm_source=chatgpt.com%20https://www.hauntedplaces.org/item/the-hermitage-3/?utm_source=chatgpt.com%20https://ghostcitytours.com/nashville/haunted-nashville/%20
• https://www.paraboxmonthly.com/2025/the-spirits-of-the-hermitage
• https://tourbrushy.com/gallery
• https://www.lorettalynnranch.net/
• https://williamsonheritage.org/portfolio-posts/the-lotz-house/
• https://boft.org/carnton
• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Franklin
• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lotz_House
• https://www.tnhistoryforkids.org/history/virtual-tours/carnton-plantation-and-carter-house/
• https://www.historicscottcojail.com/ 

In this week’s deeply disturbing dive, Cat, Rachel, and Em unravel the twisted, calculated horror of Israel Keyes - a serial killer who thrived in the shadows and made a game out of murder.

With no clear victim profile, no geographic limits, and "kill kits" buried across the country, Keyes was a predator like no other.

Join us as we trace his terrifying timeline, from bank robberies and arson to the chilling abduction of Samantha Koenig - and the shocking confession that followed.

This one is methodical, monstrous, and leaves us asking: how many more victims are still out there?

Lock your doors. Don’t trust the quiet ones. And as always… proceed with caution.

Links We Used: Israel Keyes -

• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_Keyes
• https://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/new-information-released-in-serial-killer-case https://www.fbi.gov/image-repository/israel-keyes-murder-kit.jpg/view
• https://www.cbsnews.com/news/israel-keyes-fbi-evidence-serial-killer-unknown-victims-48-hours/
• https://www.reuters.com/article/world/uk/confessed-serial-killer-hid-in-plain-sight-then-broke-own-rules-idUSBRE8BN0EN/
• https://mynorthwest.com/local/family-of-confessed-serial-killer-israel-keyes-holds-funeral-in-washington-state/31526
• https://www.reddit.com/r/anchorage/comments/1haizce/the_israel_keyes_documentary_is_disturbing_and_a/
• https://www.cnn.com/2013/11/14/justice/alaska-serial-killer-new-jersey-slaying
• https://crimejunkiepodcast.com/serial-killer-israel-keyes/
• https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/11-skulls-israel-keyes-part-1/id1062418176?i=1000670591041
• https://www.reddit.com/r/mauramurray/comments/1ctsf68/israel_keyes
• https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1009283780754448&id=100050185072624&set=a.212337260449108
• https://www.eastidahonews.com/2024/06/new-deviant-podcast-tells-stories-about-people-who-do-very-bad-things-including-utah-born-serial-killer-israel-keyes/
• https://www.murderbooks.com/book/9798330425860
• https://www.amazon.com/American-Predator-Meticulous-Serial-Century/dp/052542864X
• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Predator
• https://discover.hubpages.com/politics/Israel-Keyes-Maura-Murray-Connection
• https://www.mauramurraymissing.org/contact.html
• https://www.nhsp.dos.nh.gov/contact-us

The Pandemonium team is back with an all-new episode guaranteed to send chills down your spine and make you check that shadow in the corner twice. This time, Cat and Rachel are diving headfirst into all things haunted - we're talking ghosts, apparitions, unexplainable bumps in the night, and stories that’ll have you sleeping with the lights on.

From haunted houses to lingering spirits, we cover eerie encounters both famous and personal - including a bone-chilling firsthand tale from our favorite EMT-in-the-field, Cheyenne. Trust us, when a medic says a call was creepy? It was creepy.

So grab your incense, your crystals, and maybe a flashlight or two, and join us for an episode full of ghostly giggles, sinister shivers, and the kind of stories that stick with you long after the episode ends.