In this episode, part 1 of 2, Bob and David are joined by CJ Mahaney, senior pastor of Sovereign Grace Church of Louisville, to talk about the relationship between a pastor and their music leader. Bob and CJ have a history of serving together for over 30 years, 23 of them in the same church. In this enthusiastic conversation, they talk about their history and some of the practices and insights that have contributed to a healthy and fruitful relationship.

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