What happens when the people building AI start warning that we may be losing control?

In this episode, Jamie sits down with Tristan Harris and Jonathan Wang—the creators behind the AI documentary—to break down what’s actually happening beneath the surface of today’s AI boom.

This isn’t about hype. It’s about capability, speed, and the growing gap between what AI can do and what the world’s leaders understand.

They explain:

Why most leaders are behind on AI
The real risks no one is talking about
Why this moment may be the last window to act
What an “out of control” future could actually look like

If you’ve been trying to separate signal from noise on AI, this conversation is a must-watch.

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