In this episode we talk to graphic designers, artists, and publishers Daniel Shaskey, Katie Kerr, and Matthew Galloway. They discuss arts publishing and design during a pandemic and their respective publishing projects Avian Loop, As needed, as possible, and PAN, which have all been launched digitally in response to the lockdown. They will also discuss the challenges and possibilities of digital publications, the joy of holding a piece of paper, and how the community that surrounds the printed copy is as important as ever.