The climate is changing, whether we like it or not. Our remaining choices are around how much we can limit this change, and what we can do to adapt. A new book A Careful Revolution: Towards a Low-Emissions Future, edited by David Hall and published by Bridget Williams Books, tackles these questions. This podcast is an edited recording of a kōrero between two contributors to the book: Maria Bargh and David Hall, at the book’s Auckland book launch in July. They discuss how a low-emissions revolution can be careful, and tika, and how well we are doing in Aotearoa so far.