The Power of Perspective with Mike Roberts is a thoughtful conversation about success, gratitude, resilience, and the experiences that shape the way we view life.

In this episode, Al sits down with Mike Roberts, better known as the Converse Cowboy, to discuss a journey that began in pharmaceutical sales and evolved into a successful career in real estate investing, entrepreneurship, and personal development. Along the way, Mike shares lessons learned from starting at the bottom, building opportunities through hard work, and pursuing the kind of financial freedom that allows a person to live with purpose.

Al and Mike also discuss the origins of their respective podcasts, the inspiration behind the Converse Cowboy quote series, and the books, mentors, and ideas that have influenced their thinking over the years. Their conversation explores the role mindset plays in navigating adversity, the importance of gratitude during difficult seasons, and how perspective often determines whether challenges become obstacles or opportunities.

The discussion also touches on the Kimes Million Dollar Breakaway and the impact it has had on the Western industry, as well as the value of surrounding yourself with people who challenge you to grow.

More than a conversation about business or success, this episode is about finding meaning in the journey, appreciating the lessons that come with experience, and recognizing the opportunities that can emerge from even the most difficult circumstances.