This week on The Show, we’re joined by team roping standout Joseph Harrison. Over the course of his career, Joseph has competed on some of rodeo’s biggest stages, including six NFR qualifications and a win at The American Rodeo. He has built a reputation for skill, consistency, and a deep respect for the sport. More recently, he’s turned his focus to the futurity world, developing young rope horses and shaping the next generation of competitors.

In this episode, Joseph shares how he first got started in roping, what it was like spending a decade working for Bobby Lewis, and the lessons that shaped both his riding and his approach to horses. He also reflects on the evolution of the team roping industry and offers insight into life on the rodeo road versus life training futurity horses—from long miles in the truck to long hours in the arena.

The conversation also touches on the similarities and differences between the roping and reining industries, giving listeners a behind-the-scenes perspective on what it takes to succeed in both arenas.

With plenty of laughs, honest stories, and practical insight, this episode offers a thoughtful look at what it takes to build a lasting career in the rope horse world.

Thanks for joining us, Joseph! We really appreciate you sharing your story.

This week on The Show, we’re joined by a true force in breakaway roping—Sarah Angelone.

At her young age, Sarah has already built a résumé that puts her among the elite in the sport. With career earnings surpassing 1 Million Dollars and championships on some of rodeo’s biggest stages, she’s no stranger to the winner’s circle.

In Episode 118, Tom, Gunny, Joe, and Cade sit down with Sarah to talk about her journey into rodeo, the moments that shaped her career, and what it takes to compete at the highest level in today’s breakaway industry. We dive into how the sport has evolved, where it’s headed, and the differences between breakaway and reining.

Of course, things wouldn’t be complete without a little fun. Tom officially challenges Sarah, Trevor Brazile, and Miles Baker to a breakaway roping competition—and to make sure it’s not just talk, Trevor gets a call on air. Let’s just say… accountability was established.

Between laughs, real insight, and an impressive story of discipline and drive, this episode is a must-listen. Sarah’s perspective, humility, and passion for the sport shine through, and we’re grateful she joined us to share her story.

Thanks for coming on, Sarah—we loved having you.

Sitting down with NRHA Legend Bob Loomis and NRHA $3 Million Rider Tim McQuay is something truly special. These two horsemen have helped shape reining into what it is today — from defining the sport’s patterns to building breeding programs and careers that set the standard for generations.

Bob Loomis, a six-time NRHA Open Futurity Champion, former NRHA President, and Hall of Fame inductee, shares insight into how his career began, how influential breeding programs were built, and how selecting the right mares played a key role in long-term success. His impact on the industry spans decades and continues to influence the way reining horses are trained and bred today.

Joining him is Tim McQuay, the first rider in NRHA history to surpass $3 million in earnings and a true trailblazer of the sport. Tim has won every major NRHA event, qualified for the Futurity Finals nearly every year since 1978, and earned money on more than 200 horses. From world-level competition to building McQuay Stables, his influence reaches far beyond the show pen.

Together, Bob and Tim dive into how today’s patterns were created, how the industry has evolved, and what truly matters when building horses and programs that last. Along the way, they share unforgettable show-pen stories, lessons learned, and perspective that only decades at the top can provide.

We are incredibly grateful to Bob Loomis and Tim McQuay for joining us and sharing their knowledge, history, and stories. This episode is a rare opportunity to learn from two men who helped build the industry we all love.

This week on The Show, we’re joined by a true legend of the cow horse world — NRCHA $4 Million Rider Corey Cushing. As the first NRCHA professional to ever reach the four-million-dollar mark, Corey has firmly earned his place as one of the very best to do it. With four NRCHA Open Snaffle Bit Futurity wins and three The World’s Greatest Horseman titles, he brings a lifetime of experience, perspective, and success to the table.

Corey also brings some big news: Theorem Ranch has just acquired Teton Ridge’s iconic TR9 Ranch & Equestrian Facility, along with the incredible legacy that comes with it. He shares what this exciting new partnership means and what’s ahead for the program — and we can’t wait to see how it all unfolds.

From there, the conversation dives into Corey’s journey — how he got started, making his first Snaffle Bit Futurity Finals, and even the time he fell off in front of Tom McCutcheon. We talk about the riders who inspire him, how he structures his training weeks while juggling three disciplines, and how both the reining and cow horse worlds have evolved over the years.

Tom, Gunny, Joe, Cade, and Corey also get into training philosophy, including why it’s important to always finish a pattern even when things don’t go perfectly. The conversation then turns to family life and raising kids around horses — and why it’s actually a good thing for them to have a few hobbies that don’t involve horses. Cade laughs about how, looking back, he now really appreciates those high-school years before horses completely took over, and how important those moments end up being.

It’s a fun, insightful, and honest conversation with one of the most respected horsemen in the industry — someone who truly loves the horses, the sport, and the people who make it special.

Thank you for joining us, Corey.

After an absolutely remarkable year, Casey Deary was the perfect choice for this episode. In 2025, he captured the NRHA Open Derby Championship, won The American Performance Horseman Individual Reining, piloted Down Right Amazing to $1 Million in lifetime earnings, and topped it all off by winning the NRHA Open Futurity aboard Belissimo. Casey himself earned over $1 Million in 2025, pushing his lifetime earnings past $6 Million—making this one of the most impressive seasons of his career.

Naturally, we had plenty of questions for the Futurity Champion—starting with how he went from his first trying run on Belissimo in Tulsa to winning the biggest event of the year. We also got answers to some of the really important ones, like:

Does the $6 Million Rider pack his own clothes for a horse show?
And why is he always showing in blue shirts?

Along the way, the group shares training insights, stories about rodeo clown–golf outfits, loose teeth, weight loss, and plenty of laughs that only come from years of experience in the industry.

The conversation also turns to Casey’s carefully built breeding program—the exceptional mares that shaped it, why those bloodlines matter, and how important it is to build a strong foundation for long-term success.

We loved sitting down with Casey for great stories, real insight, and a lot of fun with one of the greatest to ever do it.
Thank you for joining us, Casey.

This week on The Show, we’re joined by Owen Deary, fresh off a massive first NRHA Futurity—and what a debut it was.

Owen is coming off a career-defining week in Oklahoma City, taking home over $100,000 at his first NRHA Futurity. His results included the Levels 1–3 Co-Championship, the Levels 1–3 Non Pro Challenge Co-Championship, the Youth Championship, and a Top 10 finish in the Level 4—all aboard a horse trained and sold by Joe Schmidt. After an accomplishment like that, having Owen on the podcast was an absolute no-brainer.

In Episode 114, Tom, Joe, Gunny, Cade, and Owen sit down to talk through Owen’s journey in and out of the show pen. Owen shares how he found his love for training horses again, how he once had to make the tough decision between baseball and horses, and how that choice shaped where he is today.

They also dive into what it was like growing up as the son of one of the industry’s greats, Casey Deary—who just claimed the 2025 NRHA Open Futurity Championship—and how that upbringing influenced Owen’s mindset, work ethic, and approach to showing and training.

The conversation naturally turns toward the Deary family as a whole: who rides, who golfs, who likes makeup, and how the family includes everything from golfers and rodeo clowns to makeup artists and pony bronc riders. It’s a talented, entertaining group—and a wonderful family to learn more about.

Of course, the guys also spend time breaking down the NRHA Futurity, which wrapped up just last week. With a much different schedule this year, they discuss both sides of what it was like to compete under that format and share their personal experiences from the show and the horse sale—which still took place, just in a very different way.

Mixed in with the stories are plenty of laughs, some great (and highly questionable) relationship advice from Tom, Gunny, Joe, and Cade (do not try this at home), a story about Casey Deary knocking out a couple of Owen’s teeth, and Owen being welcomed by a big gun from a maybe future father-in-law (sorry, Jason). And that’s just the beginning.

All in all, this episode is packed with insight, humor, family stories, and industry perspective.

Owen, we are incredibly proud of your achievements at the NRHA Futurity and couldn’t be more excited to see another one of our horses succeed in the Deary family. Congratulations on an unforgettable week.

With the NRHA Futurity right around the corner, we were excited to have longtime friend and NRHA Million Dollar Rider Matt Palmer in town for an episode of The Show. Matt is an established professional with over $1,000,000 in lifetime earnings, and this conversation could not have come at a better time.

We kick things off by talking about the unique situation surrounding this year’s Futurity — how everything came together and just how lucky we all are to be here this year. From there, the crew dives into the mental side of competing on one of the biggest stages in our sport: staying calm, knowing your horse, understanding what they can (and can’t) do, and not letting pressure push you into doing too much.

And of course, it wouldn’t be an episode without a lot of laughter. Between Matt getting in Tom’s way in the warm-up pen, Tom paying way too much for a purple couch, and Joe derailing vacations, there’s plenty of old stories. But mixed in with the fun, Cade and Matt bring serious insight into what it really takes to make the Futurity finals, navigate a long career, and stay grateful for the horses — and the people — that make this industry what it is.

Overall, this episode was EPIC.
Huge thank you to Matt for joining us, and best of luck to everyone at the NRHA Futurity!

This week on The Show, we’re joined by two incredible guests: João Felipe Lacerda—six-time ANCR Open Futurity Champion, five-time ANCR Open Derby Champion, and one of the most accomplished riders to come out of Brazil—and Eduardo Christians.

João is no stranger to the international reining world. Representing the renowned Tripol Ranch, he has trained and shown Gunner Dun It Again, made the Level 4 Open finals at nearly every major event in the United States, and regularly travels with horses from Brazil to compete on the biggest stages.

In this episode, we dive into João’s journey: how he got into horses, how his partnership with Tripol Ranch began, what it was like to develop Gunner Dun It Again, and how he became one of the top riders in the world. From career paths to career-shaping horses, to discovering that yes—Brazil does have donuts, running water, and rap music—we get an inside look at Brazilian horse culture, major horse sales, the stallion auction, their show season, and so much more.

We also tackle the big question: Is there really an advantage in bringing a horse from Brazil for the Futurity, and what does that journey actually look like?
Plus, Gunny reveals he’d happily move to Brazil (he already has the green hat and yellow shirt). Tom would love to join… but the absence of Texan donuts might be a deal-breaker. And Joe just needs the ocean a little closer.

Of course, we also discuss the upcoming NRHA Futurity and the challenges and conversations that have unfolded over the last 48 hours.

Between good laughs, breakfast stories, and real insight into João’s career, this is an episode you won’t want to miss.

As João heads into the NRHA Open Futurity and Eduardo prepares for the Non Pro, we’re wishing them—and everyone competing—the very best of luck. Hope to see you soon!

After Joe’s accident, we’re beyond glad to have him back for another episode of The Show—and even more excited to welcome this week’s special guests, Scott & Cade McCutcheon!

From hearing more about Joe’s incident to hospital stories featuring Tom and a few of Gunny’s assistants, this episode truly has it all. We’re also proud to officially announce Joe’s new career opportunity as a bodyguard with cauliflowered ears… you’ll understand once you hear it.

Between chocolate-covered macadamia nuts, new drags, and border collies, you’ll get free advice on how to make your wife mad—or how to earn yourself a night on the couch with little to no effort.

But it’s not all comedy. Mixed in with the fun and laughter, you’ll also hear serious insight from Gunny on yearling and 2-year-old sales, plus some talk about the upcoming NRHA Futurity, one of the most important events of the year.

It’s a good one… don’t miss it!

After Joe’s accident, we’re beyond glad to have him back for another episode of The Show—and even more excited to welcome this week’s special guests, Scott & Cade McCutcheon!

From hearing more about Joe’s incident to hospital stories featuring Tom and a few of Gunny’s assistants, this episode truly has it all. We’re also proud to officially announce Joe’s new career opportunity as a bodyguard with cauliflowered ears… you’ll understand once you hear it.

Between chocolate-covered macadamia nuts, new drags, and border collies, you’ll get free advice on how to make your wife mad—or how to earn yourself a night on the couch with little to no effort.

But it’s not all comedy. Mixed in with the fun and laughter, you’ll also hear serious insight from Gunny on yearling and 2-year-old sales, plus some talk about the upcoming NRHA Futurity, one of the most important events of the year.

It’s a good one… don’t miss it!