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  • The Blind Type, with Flemming Christensen

    Founder and Owner of Enneagram Next Level, THINK ABOUT IT, and the Enneagram Institute of Denmark, Author, Coach, Trainer, Teacher and Consultant Flemming Christensen (Self-preservation 3), delights me with an interview about his latest book, the Enneagram - Why the Blind Type Matters, outlining a new approach to development using the Enneagram model. 

    • Flemming's background in how he works with the Enneagram [3.45]
    • How Flemming came to the Enneagram [5.11]
    • Obnoxious question about Flemming's type, not my standard practice I'll have you know [8.58]
    • What Don Riso had Flemming do when he was discovering his type [10.13]
    • When did Flemming start using the Enneagram in his work? [11.40]
    • Flemming's three-prongued model for change [15.14]
    • The books that have gone before now [18.48]
    • And the new book [19.27]
    • What's a blind type? [21.17]
    • Flemming illustrates the model using his life theme (the Big Brother) [24.36]
    • What development is this, personality or spiritual? [28.08]
    • How do you find out what the blind type is? [32.20]
    • Is the blind type the type that annoys you the most in others? [35.23]
    • Why do we need to integrate the qualities of one of the other types? [38.08]
    • Flemming applies his model to me and my blind type [42.06]
    • How has it made a difference to Flemming to integrate his blind type? [48.03]

    Buy Flemming's book: https://amzn.to/3GyP6NJ

    The course for Enneagram Eygpt
    https://courses.enneagramegypt.com/collections/teacher-trainer

    Find Flemming
    http://www.flemmingchristensen.com/

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    Music: Children's Folksong Three Blind Mice, from Pixabay

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    Website: https://thepracticalenneagram.com/ 
    Email address: rez@thepracticalenneagram 

    52 min
  • Chaos and change, with Kate Zagorskis

    Coach, Consultant and Facilitator Kate Zagorskis (Type 9) offers some insights about how each type moves through uncertainty and ambiguity from her decade + helping individuals, organisations and teams to navigate change. This is a rich conversation from someone with a deep well of compassion and understanding for the process of change. 

    • How Kate got into organisational change [2.14]
    • How the field is changing [3.30]
    • What does she love about working in the field [4.35]
    • How's the Enneagram used in the field of change? [8.00]
    • What is VUCA? [9.40]
    • Patterns in the way each type move towards and helps us with change, and how they resist it and create problems.
      • General triad patterns [12.00]
      • Type 9 [14.32]
      • Type 1 [18.35]
      • Type 2 [22:02]
      • Type 3 [24.32]
      • Type 4 [29.00]
      • Type 5 [32.33]
      • Type 6 [34.54]
      • Type 7 [37.14]
      • Type 8 [40.03]
    • What other than type affects our capacity to meet change? [43.38]
    • Why does change bring up grief, and is it important to name that? [45.05]
    • What is Kate thinking/feeling when someone is suffering? [48.55]
    • Nine things that are true about change (these are gorgeous) [51.20] 

    Kate's 9 Keys to Change
    Holding a holistic perspective (9)
    Holding the ideals (1)
    Making sure people are thought of (2)
    Showing us that we can do something  with what we have (3)
    Allowing us to grieve what we are losing (4)
    Seeing the underlying why (5)
    Recognising what's important and what's not (good sifters) (6)
    Inspire us to see what's possible (7)
    A sense of confidence and capacity (8)

    Exercise
    Identify what the change is creating
    What is not changing?
    What we have to destroy and let go of?

    An article related to this content is available here: https://thenewnewwork.com/blog/changechaostheenneagram

    Find Kate
    https://thenewnewwork.com/
    Contact https://thenewnewwork.com/connect

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    Music by Sergei Chetvertnykh from Pixabay

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    54 min
  • Parenting from presence, with Valerie Tih

    Beautifully compassionate Parent Coach and Enneagram teacher, Valerie Tih (Social 2) of JoyFULL Coaching celebrates each type's parenting gift, and explains how it looks when they parent more from their fixations. Valerie also offers self-observation practices for each type. One for all parents - and all children of parents. :)

    • Early brushes with the Enneagram [2.35]
    • What is the Positive Discipline? [4.20]
    • What does it mean to parent with presence, from the perspective of the Enneagram? [5.55]
    • What is the term Essence Parent? [7.00]
    • What are the special capacities of each type of parent, and their blind spots? [8.20]

    Find Valerie
    Website https://joyfullcoaching.ca/
    Facebook https://www.facebook.com/JoyfullCoaching
    Instagram  https://www.instagram.com/joyfullcoaching/

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    Music: Music by Zakhar Valaha from Pixabay

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    Email address: rez@thepracticalenneagram 

    33 min
  • Teaching teens, with Nataliia Bolshakova

    The rather delightful Nataliia Bolshakova (SP6), President and Co-founder of Enneagram Egypt, uses her experience in education, pedagogy, and psychology to teach the Enneagram to teens and pre-teens. Here she shares a little about Enneagram Egypt's programmes for teens, teachers and schools, and answers a few of my curiosities about how to talk to teenagers about the Enneagram. 

    • How did Nataliia get into the Enneagram [2.16]
    • Nataliia's type and the types of her family [4.00]
    • How are the programmes informed by the stages of development? [9.05]
    • Do we teach the kids about their type's downsides? [13.22]
    • What's the guidance for teachers wanting to use the Enneagram? [15.50]
    • What does each triad need? [19.18]
    • How do you avoid beating yourself up as a parent making new discoveries about a child's type? [23.05]

    Find Enneagram Eygpt:
    Enneagram Eygpt: https://enneagramegypt.com/

    Here is the WhatsApp group invite, if you want to be alerted about the next teen programme:
    https://chat.whatsapp.com/FqVzWYb3oHs9Mz6dWLd3V5

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    28 min
  • Communicating - in teams and in life, with Steph Barron Hall

    Enneagram teacher, coach, consultant and entrepreneur Steph Barron Hall (Sexual Three) shares how she combines her depth study of Communication with the Enneagram in the training that she delivers in teams. I find Steph a compassionate and highly effective/practical teacher of the Enneagram. The communication practices she offers at the end are excellent. 

    • How the Enneagram became central to Steph's work [1.36]
    • Early Enneagram encounters and typing journey [3.36]
    • Something tedious about being a Three [7.49]
    • Why Steph decided to study Communication in depth [9.55]
    • How does typing work when teaching the Enneagram to teams? [11.45]
    • What does it mean to communicate well? [17.06]
    • Cultural considerations with communication habits [20.16]
    • Why does our Enneagram type influence how we communicate? [22.07]
    • The difference between low and high context communication [24.45]
    • Dominant instinct patterns with content and style of communication [27.21]
    • Patterns with Heart, Head and Gut Center types [28.11]
    • Should we adapt our communication when we know we are speaking with particular types? [29.52]
    • Specific practices for each type, starting with type Eight [32.10]

    References
    The episode of Enneagram 2.0 I referred to: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/s2-ep01-communications-patterns-and-the-nine-types/id1499745500?i=1000575026808

    Find Steph
    Website: https://ninetypes.co/
    Online course: https://www.enneagramirl.com/
    Podcast: https://www.askanenneagramcoach.com/
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ninetypesco/

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    42 min
  • The Practice, with Dominic Liber

    Possibly everything you've ever wanted to know about Diamond Inquiry but didn't want to ask. The very encouraging Diamond Approach teacher, Dominic Liber, has a special knack for teaching the mechanics of the central practice of the Diamond Approach. Do yourself a favour and read his book, Diving in the Inner Ocean - an Introduction to  Personal Transformation using Diamond Inquiry. Dominic kindly took a break from writing his next book to answer some of my questions about this transformational practice that partners perfectly with the Enneagram. 

    • Why Dominic decided to write this book [6.45]
    • Did Hameed invent Inquiry? [9.55]
    • How is this different from self-observation? [14.37]
    • Why is knowing the Enneagram useful when it comes to practising Inquiry [18.38]
    • Stages of what we can notice in Inquiry [25.35]
    • A common mistake that happens when we start to Inquire [27.27]
    • How does practising Inquiry feel? [30.28]
    • Why do we do this again? [34.46]
    • We demo Inquiry [35.35]
    • Is there anything we shouldn't Inquire into? [41.56]
    • Trauma and practising Inquiry [44.43]
    • How do we know Inquiry is working? [46.55]
    • Do we need a teacher and a group to practice Inquiry? [48.45]
    • Come on Dom, what's your Enneagram type? [50.40]

    Links
    Dominic’s website https://www.domliber.com/
    Register for his practical inquiry course: https://www.dive-in.life/inquiry-course/
    Buy his book https://www.dive-in.life/book/

    Enrol on Diamond Approach Online's Keys to the Enneagram, teaching at the cutting edge of Enneagram wisdom:
    https://online.diamondapproach.org/keys-to-the-enneagram-sneak-peak-kte-
    su22/#course-clips /?ref=44&utm_source=affiliate&utm_term=rez 

    Inquiry from the coach's seat: https://www.coachesrising.com/podcast/the-practice-of-inquiry-with-dom-liber/

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    54 min
  • That Spiral thing, with Dr Deborah Ooten

    Another absolute beaut of an Enneagram teacher, the amazingly generous and fun Deborah Ooten PhD (Sexual 8, though she doesn't use instinct categorisations in her teachings) shares about why she saw fit to pair Spiral Dynamics with the Enneagram. Deborah’s work has been pioneering in the field. I encourage everyone to have at least an awareness of her research, know about her fantasy self-help series, the Books of Nine, and consider participating in her upcoming course with the Shift Network. 

    • What is Spiral Dynamics and who uses it? [2.20]
    • The three kinds of change that happen to prompt evolution on the Spiral [9.25]
    • Why did Deborah begin to teach Spiral Dynamics with the Enneagram? [15.05]
    • What Deborah did with a bunch of Enneagram teachers at an IEA conference [20.13] 
    • How not to be a simplistic a-hole (like me) about the Spiral and the Enneagram [22.33]
    • How does someone living in Blue, Orange and Yellow see the Enneagram (you can use this to figure out where you probably are on the Spiral)? [27.35] 
    • How do Riso and Hudson's Levels sit on the Spiral? [34.34]
    • How Deborah found her way to the Fourth Way as a spiritual path [38.36]

    Find Deborah:
    Deborah's website, www.goconscious.com

    Btw:

    • Gravian theory is a reference to Clare Graves, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clare_W._Graves whose work Don Beck and Chris Cowan built their Spiral Dynamics model on.
    • Vmeme just means set of values. Values meme. 
    • 'Developmental allergy' is a fancy term for low development. 
    • 'We'/collective stages - Blue and Green.
    • ' Self-expressive' or Individualistic stages - Red and Orange.  
    • Link to Deborah's article outlining research: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1C4Hmd3xbVsS7u2fG8KZqPo5R7crNceAj/view?usp=sharing
    • Link to Books of Nine: https://n-1games.com/the-books-of-nine.html
    • If this topic interests you, you might want to listen to: 'Type, the Spiral and disintegration', with Leslie Hershberger (Episode 7)  and 'The types in colour', with Dr Khaled ElSherbini (Episode 14)

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    47 min
  • Working with the emotions and the body, with Peter O'Hanrahan

    This was an interesting interview to do with a gold standard Enneagram teacher who I have appreciated a lot since I came to study the Enneagram. Peter O’Hanrahan (Social Eight) is known worldwide in the field, especially for his teachings on how our type patterns show up in the body and emotions. Peter came to the Enneagram way back in 1978 as a counsellor and body therapist, so the orientation was always highly practical.  He’s been associated with the Narrative Enneagram from the early days and still teaches their programmes. 

    • Peter on the value of working on the body and the emotions [2.06]
    • How he got into embodiment work [3.36]
    • What exactly does building body awareness help us to do? [4.40]
    • Why does it help us with relationships? [6.21]
    • Just how do you get a Nine in touch with their anger (not a part of the scheduled lineup but couldn't resist asking)? [13.20]
    • Type tour of the bodily characteristics of each type, starting with type One [17.10]
    • Do the instinct types point to specific body armouring? [34.47]
    • What gets on Peter's nerves about where the Enneagram is going? [37.40]
    • Anything progressive about where the Enneagram is going? [38.58]
    • What's getting Peter's attention these days about the Enneagram? [40.27]

    Peter's articles on these topics:
    Love in the Three Centers https://theenneagramatwork.com/love-in-three-centers
    The Embodied Enneagram https://theenneagramatwork.com/the-embodied-enneagram
    Conscious Breathing Practices https://theenneagramatwork.com/conscious-breathing-practices

    Peter's website, the Enneagram at Work https://theenneagramatwork.com

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    Music by Mepa_Melson from Pixabay


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    43 min
  • Rising up the Levels, with Hari Prasada Das and Rasanath Das

    Spiritual teachers and corporate high-flyers/creatives, Co-founders of Upbuild, Rasanath Das (Social Three) and Hari Prasada Das (Social Four) talk about the Levels of Consciousness, the Riso/Hudson contribution to the Enneagram that Hari and Rasanath have decided to make central to their coaching and training work. The wisdom just flowed in this one. Glad I found such integrous teachers to cover a huge topic. Gratitude to Michael Sloyer for setting this up. 

    • Rasanath's early meetings with the Enneagram [3.35] and Hari's [8.02]
    • Why they started Upbuild  and what Upbuild is about [14.30]
    • Rasanath describes the formation of the types [16.19]
    • Hari answers the question, 'is type the same thing as ego'? [18.13]
    • Hari answers the question 'what exactly are the Levels of Consciousness? [21.29]
    • Rasanath answers the question, 'can we actually lose our egos'? [22.51]
    • Rasanath describes humility, the telltale quality of self-realized souls [24.55]
    • Rasanath describes why the Levels of Consciousness continue to be so revolutionary [28.56]
    • Hari on why the Levels was such an important contribution to the Enneagram [30.45]
    • Hari on why Upbuild calls the stages Creative, Controlling and Destructive (rather than Healthy, Average and Unhealthy) [33.07]
    • Rasanath answers the question 'can we diagnose ourselves accurately on the Levels'?[37.33]
    • Rasanath answers the question, 'can we really rise up the Levels through effort alone'? [42.42]
    • Hari describes the motto of his German teacher/mentor (one a lot of us have I think!) [46.53]
    • Rasanath describes three layers of responsibility and why they are core to rising up the Levels [48.39] 
    • Hari on how to take responsibility on a practical level [51.27]
    • Rasanath on using the Enneagram as a vertical development model in general [53.20]


    References
    Personality Types: Using the Enneagram for Self-discovery, by Don Riso
    Discovering the Enneagram, by Andreas Ebert and Richard Rohr

    Find Upbuild
    Website: https://www.upbuild.com/
    Podcast, Upbuilding the Self: https://www.upbuild.com/podcast
    Events: https://www.upbuild.com/events-listed 

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    57 min
  • The Enneagram of Trees, with Samantha Taroni

    Group creative facilitator and fellow Brit Samantha Taroni (Social 6) shares about how she guides others to access the archetypical energies of the nine types through nine trees. A unique and lovely way to work with type patterns. 

    • Where Sam hangs out and what she's been up to till now [1.30]
    • Sam shares about her practical handbook, Take it to the Trees [5.35]
    • What inspired Sam's Deep Mapping [13.02]
    • How the process translates to an online format [18.15]
    • How Sam plans to expand on her synthesis of the Enneagram and Deep Mapping [20.06]

    References
    Ogham Tree Calander
    Take it to the Trees (www.amazon.co.uk/Take-TREES-Samantha-Taroni-ebook/dp/B09LVDZ2BL)

    Find Sam
    Website https://www.thesoul-shed.co.uk/
    Instagram https://www.instagram.com/the_soul_shed/ and https://www.instagram.com/takeittothetreesproject/ 
    Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/thesoulshed/

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    Music: 'Quirky Moments', Purple Planet Music 

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    23 min

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Interviews with teachers, coaches, practitioners and other humans doing helpful things with, or related to, the Enneagram. Aspirationally practical. Hosted by Rezzan Huseyin.