The Practice Builders

The Practice Builders

By Dr. Vince Leone and Dr. Kyle PankoninBusinessCareers
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The Practice Builders episodes

  • 58. Specialists Win: Why the Future of Chiropractic Belongs to Specialists

    πŸŽ™ Episode 58 – Specialists Win: Why the Future of Chiropractic Belongs to Specialists

    In this episode of The Practice Builders Podcast, Dr. Vince Leone breaks down a nuanced framework for deciding when every patient really needs an MRI in your decompression practice.

    Most doctors fall into one of two traps: chasing every high-value cash service, or staying stuck as a generalist competing on insurance and price. Neither builds a lasting practice. The real question isn't how many modalities you offer β€” it's whether you're becoming known for solving one or two specific, high-value problems exceptionally well.

    He also discusses why clinical excellence alone can't save a practice from becoming commoditized, how positioning and marketing are what actually let patients see the difference before they walk in the door, and why the doctors who reinvest in their specialty create a flywheel that compounds over time.

    Key topics include:

    • Why "commodity chiropractic" happens and how it traps practices into competing only on insurance and price
    • The Practice Nirvana model β€” a general chiropractic base feeding one or two high-value specialties like decompression or knee pain
    • Why specialization builds authority, better protocols, and stronger referrals over time
    • How generalists compete on price while specialists compete on value, trust, and outcomes
    • Dr. Leone's own journey from a struggling generalist to scaling a specialized practice to multiple seven figures
    • The 3 practical questions every doctor should ask about their practice's positioning

    The big takeaway: generalists compete, specialists differentiate. The future belongs to doctors who stop trying to be everything to everyone and instead become exceptional at solving specific, high-value problems.

    🎧 Listen now on your favorite platform!

    23 min
  • 58. Do You Need That MRI?

    πŸŽ™ Episode 58 – Should Every Patient Get an MRI and How Imaging Decisions Affect Diagnosis Case Acceptance and Treatment Outcomes

    In this episode of The Practice Builders Podcast, Dr. Kyle Pankonin breaks down a nuanced framework for deciding when an MRI actually belongs in your decompression practice.

    Most doctors fall into one of two traps: never ordering imaging, or ordering an MRI for every patient. Neither is right. The real question isn't whether a scan looks impressive β€” it's whether it will change your management plan. History and exam always come first; the MRI is there to confirm or clarify, not to replace them.

    He also discusses why over-relying on brief medical radiologist reports can leave you with incomplete information, how to avoid scaring patients with scary-sounding terminology, and why an MRI is just as valuable for identifying good decompression candidates as it is for ruling out surgery.

    Key topics include:

    • Why an MRI should only be ordered when it will change the diagnosis, treatment plan, or referral decision
    • When x-rays are enough β€” and when persistent radiculopathy or worsening neurological deficits mean it's time to scan
    • Why Modic Type 1 changes matter and what they can signal
    • How a $30 chiropractic radiologist review can catch what a brief medical report misses
    • Why treating the image instead of the patient is one of the costliest mistakes in decompression care
    • How to use the MRI as a communication tool β€” simple analogies like "blown tire" build trust and case acceptance

    The big takeaway: an MRI isn't a shortcut to a diagnosis, and it isn't optional busywork either. Used well, it's a tool that sharpens your clinical picture and helps patients understand exactly why your treatment plan makes sense.

    🎧 Listen now on your favorite platform!

    39 min
  • 57. Building A Three Therapy Center

    πŸŽ™ Episode 57 – Building A Three Therapy Center

    In this episode of The Practice Builders Podcast, Dr. Kyle Pankonin breaks down how to combine spinal decompression, Class 4 laser, and shockwave therapy into a system that drives better outcomes and doubles your cash-based revenue β€” and why using them the wrong way is one of the most expensive mistakes a practice can make.

    The episode is a lesson in matching the right therapy to the right problem. Too many docs reach for one device to solve every case, or buy expensive tech without a clinical system behind it β€” and a $12k table with a great protocol will outperform a $60k table with a poor one every time. Instead, Dr. Pankonin frames it like a football team: decompression restores mechanics, laser accelerates healing, and shockwave restarts regeneration in stubborn tissue β€” each with a specific job to do.

    You'll learn:

    • The two most common mistakes docs make with combo therapy β€” and the one question that fixes both: "which therapy is best for this patient's condition?"
    • When to use decompression, laser, or shockwave alone β€” and when to stack them, with real case examples for shoulder, lumbar disc, and plantar fasciitis
    • Why Failed Back Surgical Syndrome has a 26.2% failure rate while decompression succeeds 90.5% of the time in similar cases β€” and the three-therapy combo built for it
    • How to stop selling individual sessions and start selling outcomes by building branded "recovery programs" (Lumbar Disc Recovery, Heel Pain Recovery, Shoulder Recovery) in 6, 12, or 24-visit tiers
    • How this exact shift took Dr. Pankonin's own practice from 95% insurance to 50–60% cash-based, more than doubling revenue and landing in the top 1% of clinics nationwide

    A must-listen for any doc running these three therapies who wants to stop treating in isolation and start building programs patients actually buy into.

    🎧 Tune in and learn how to turn three separate tools into one system that changes outcomes β€” and your bottom line.

    32 min
  • 56. Decompression Case Review

    πŸŽ™ Episode 56 – Decompression Case Review

    In this episode of The Practice Builders Podcast, Dr. Kyle Pankonin breaks down two real decompression cases that show why this therapy belongs at the center of a modern chiropractic practice β€” and how to frame it so patients choose it over pills, shots, and surgery.

    Both cases are a lesson in patience and patient selection. First, a man with years of recurring low back pain that chiropractic used to fix β€” until a 2025 injury and a large L5-S1 extrusion changed everything. He was only 25% better at month three; by month four he hit 75%, and today he's on maintenance feeling his best in years. Second, a 57-year-old post-surgical patient no one could help who reached 98% improvement with the right protocol.

    You'll learn:

    • Why chronic patients whose pain has stopped responding to standard care are your most natural decompression candidates β€” they already trust you
    • Why large disc extrusions often respond better than small bulges
    • Why breakthroughs often come late β€” and how setting the full 24-visit expectation keeps patients from bailing early
    • The post-surgical waiting periods that make a patient a safe candidate
    • Why you always correlate MRI findings with a thorough exam β€” the pain generator doesn't always match the imaging
    • How to frame decompression against surgery using the real numbers: 85–93% success versus surgery's ~72% first-time rate
    • What the research actually says about muscle relaxers, opioids, gabapentin, injections, and ablations

    A must-listen for any doc who wants to become the go-to authority on disc and spine care in their market β€” because when you can show patients the data on every alternative, decompression stops being a hard sell and becomes the clear choice.

    🎧 Tune in and learn how to turn complex disc cases into some of the most rewarding wins in your practice β€” clinically and for the patients whose lives you change.

    32 min
  • 55. I Need To Think About It

    πŸŽ™ Episode 55 – I Need To Think About It

    In this episode of The Practice Builders Podcast, Dr. Vince Leone and Dr. Kyle Pankonin tackle the four words every decompression doc dreads at the end of a strong ROF: "I need to think about it." It's rarely a real maybe β€” it's a soft no from a patient who hasn't reached enough certainty to commit.

    This episode breaks down why patients hesitate, how to prevent the objection before it surfaces, and exactly what to say when it does.

    You'll learn:

    • Why "I need to think about it" is almost always a polite no β€” and why most of those patients never come back without proactive follow-up
    • The five root reasons patients hesitate, from not understanding the condition to not yet trusting you
    • How plain-English analogies β€” the dried-up sponge, the ice cream sandwich, the stepped-on garden hose β€” build the understanding that drives a yes
    • Why tracking your own success rate gives you the confidence and hard data to lay a patient's fear of failure to rest
    • The exact language to uncover the real objection β€” "while you're here, what specifically do you need to think about?" β€” and why going quiet after is the whole move
    • How to close the loop with take-home materials and a scheduled next appointment instead of letting an undecided patient drift away

    A must-listen for any doc playing in the deep end of high-value cash services β€” because the difference between 2 starts a month and 6 often isn't your treatment. It's what you do in the 10 minutes of objections that follow the plan.

    🎧 Tune in and learn how to turn "let me think about it" into "let's get started" β€” because patients buy hope, certainty, and a clear path back to their lives.

    40 min
  • 54. Red Flags That Tell You a Patient Is Not a Good Candidate for Spinal Decompression

    πŸŽ™ Episode 54 – Red Flags That Tell You a Patient Is Not a Good Candidate for Spinal Decompression

    In this episode of The Practice Builders Podcast, Dr. Pankonin breaks down six major red flags doctors should watch for when selecting spinal decompression patients.

    Successful decompression starts with proper patient selection. An MRI may show disc degeneration, bulges, or stenosis, but that does not automatically mean the patient is a good candidate. The MRI must match the patient’s symptoms, history, and exam findings.

    He also discuss why doctors need to set realistic expectations, screen for psychological and compliance barriers, and look at the bigger picture when patients have significant comorbidities like obesity, smoking, poor conditioning, or lifestyle factors that may limit results.

    Key topics include:

    • Why the MRI must clinically correlate with the patient’s symptoms
    • When severe multi-level central stenosis may limit decompression outcomes
    • How fear-avoidance, disability mindset, anxiety, or depression can affect results
    • Why β€œmiracle seekers” often become disappointed patients
    • How poor compliance can sabotage a 24-visit decompression plan
    • Why comorbidities and lifestyle factors must be addressed before or during care

    The big takeaway: not every patient with a bad MRI is a decompression candidate. The goal is to identify the right patients, set clear expectations, and create the best possible chance for a successful outcome.

    Doctors should define success around meaningful improvement, such as at least 50% pain reduction and better function, rather than promising to β€œfix” or β€œcure” the condition.

    🎧 Listen now on your favorite platform!

    26 min
  • 53. How To Explain Disc Injuries So Patients Actually Understand

    πŸŽ™ Episode 53 – How To Explain Disc Injuries So Patients Actually Understand

    In this episode of The Practice Builders Podcast, Dr. Kyle Pankonin tackles the real reason patients walk away from disc treatment β€” and it's not cost or fear. It's confusion. When you bury a diagnosis under terms like "annular tear" and "foraminal stenosis," patients can't say yes to something they don't understand.

    This episode hands you a plain-English analogy toolkit that turns complex disc injuries into something any patient can grasp in seconds.

    You'll learn:

    • Why technical jargon β€” not price or fear β€” is the hidden conversion killer in your report of findings, and how to dismantle it
    • The four questions every patient is silently asking, and how to answer all of them before they ever have to ask
    • The full analogy toolkit β€” Jelly Donut, Sponge, Ice Cream Sandwich, Tire, and Garden Hose β€” and exactly what each one explains, from annular tears to nerve impingement
    • How to draw a straight line from each analogy to decompression, so the treatment becomes the obvious solution instead of an upsell
    • The three differentiators that make patients say "no doctor's ever done that before" β€” and why clear communication sits at the center of them
    • How dialing in your explanation can lift conversion from a typical 40–50% all the way to 70–80%, helping more people avoid surgery

    This is a must-listen for any decompression doc whose great clinical work isn't translating into accepted care β€” because the gap usually isn't your skill. It's the moment between the diagnosis and the patient's understanding of it.

    🎧 Tune in and learn how to make every disc injury make sense to your patients β€” because confident patients say yes, and confused patients say "let me think about it."

    23 min
  • 52. How to Choose Patients for Decompression

    πŸŽ™ Episode 52 – How to Choose Patients for Decompression

    In this episode of The Practice Builders Podcast, Dr. Vince Leone and Dr. Kyle Pankonin break down how to identify the spine pain patients most likely to accept care, comply with treatment, and get the best outcomes β€” so you stop offering the wrong plan to the wrong patient.

    You'll learn:

    • Why offering full decompression programs to every back or neck pain patient tanks your conversion rate β€” and what to do instead
    • How to spot the clinical hallmarks of a true full-program candidate, including chronic disc, radiculopathy, and positional pain patterns
    • Why not every good clinical candidate is a good practice candidate β€” and how poor selection affects your team and your entire patient base
    • How the "singles and doubles" framework fills your decompression schedule with mild-to-moderate cases and keeps your table running full time
    • The red flags, contraindications, and behavioral warning signs that should disqualify a patient before you ever make a recommendation
    • Why categorizing every new spine patient into the right "bucket" from day one increases acceptance, improves compliance, and eliminates plan mismatches

    This is a must-listen for any decompression doc frustrated with low conversions β€” because the fix usually isn't your marketing. It's your selection process.

    🎧 Tune in and learn how to match the right patient to the right plan every time β€” because when your selection is dialed in, your decompression program grows faster and runs smoother.

    25 min
  • 51. The Decompression Flywheel

    πŸŽ™ Episode 51 – The Decompression Flywheel

    In this episode of The Practice Builders Podcast, Dr. Vince Leone breaks down the Decompression Flywheel β€” an 8-stage framework that helps chiropractors stop guessing, find the real bottleneck in their decompression growth, and fix it fast.

    You'll learn:

    • Why most doctors assume they have a lead problem β€” and why the real bottleneck is almost always somewhere else in the patient journey
    • How to track the 6 core numbers that reveal exactly where your growth is stalling every single month
    • Why 90 days of data is all you need to accurately diagnose your biggest constraint and stop wasting time fixing the wrong thing
    • How building a staff-driven, team-equipped practice reduces your dependence on you β€” and makes decompression actually scalable
    • Why your existing patients, new patient flow, and past patient base are your three most powerful (and most underused) growth assets
    • How clarity and confidence in the consultation and ROF convert more patients than any script ever will
    • Why capturing patient proof on camera fuels both your marketing and your team's morale
    • The one rule that separates sustainable growth from burnout: scale the system only once the system is stable

    This is a must-listen for any chiropractor actively offering decompression who feels like growth has stalled β€” and wants a clear, honest look at what's really holding them back.

    🎧 Tune in and walk through each stage of the flywheel β€” because once you find your bottleneck and fix it, the whole system starts spinning in your favor.

    26 min
  • 50. Million Dollar Practice Habits

    πŸŽ™ Episode 50 – Million Dollar Practice Habits

    In this episode of The Practice Builders Podcast, Dr. Vince Leone and Dr. Kyle Pankonin break down the 7 non-negotiable habits that separate million dollar chiropractic practices from the rest β€” and how any doctor can start building them today.

    You'll learn:

    • Why thinking like a CEO β€” knowing your numbers, planning strategically, and dreaming bigger β€” is the foundation of every million dollar practice
    • How to create a wow patient experience that drives referrals, increases case acceptance, and justifies premium care plan pricing
    • Why selling outcomes instead of visits is the single biggest shift you can make in your patient conversations
    • How protecting your time and energy as the practice owner directly impacts your ability to grow
    • Why building and inspiring a team around you is non-negotiable β€” and how to get staff to see their work as a calling, not just a job
    • How to market consistently and emotionally detached through the peaks and valleys β€” and why most doctors quit too soon
    • Why the doctors hitting $1M+ never stop learning, and how coaching, seminars, and masterminds shortcut your path to success

    This is a must-listen for any chiropractor ready to stop coasting and start installing the habits that compound into a thriving, staff-run, million dollar practice.

    🎧 Tune in and discover which habit to start with this quarter β€” and how small, consistent improvements snowball into the practice you've always envisioned.

    34 min

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Welcome to the Practice Builders podcast, the show where innovation meets strategy for growing thriving chiropractic clinics presented by Specialized Practice and hosted by Dr. Vince Leone and Dr.…