After a long day at the Golden Gran Fondo, your hosts dig deep to discuss learning by watching good people, head games, the wisdom of Scott Shaw, the challenges of getting started, and how there is just nothing good back there.

The art and science of the team time trial, the problems with August and off seasons, turning excuses into plans, and raising the standards. It is a big show but there is some freeback or distortion that hits every five minutes or so. Sorry about that, The Management.

Under the cover of darkness in Tom's backyard we talk about the Colorado Challenge, women's cycling, endurance cycling, and the new Cinch sport that will blow your mind.

Back in the backyard at Castle Black we discuss the TdF, rehash the July Cinch League "race", and dig deep into what makes Charles "Chaz" tick.

Tom, Derek, and Kourtney go the extra mile using Skype to keep the pattern. Technology was tricky, sound is tough but the conversation was awesome.

Tom Danielson discusses how to use your training to go well beyond goals and instead create achievement every single day in all aspects of life.

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Tom answers questions about week one of the TdF and we discuss at length how much junk to keep in and around your trunk.

Tom, Kourtney (with a 'K') and Derek discuss Le Tour de France (2017) up through stage five from Tom's back yard.